Some days I can’t even. Here’s an actual discussion going on in the Men’s Rights subreddit today. How is it that adult human beings can believe these things?
Ugh. And these guys actually think that they’re the “less dramatic, more productive and more thoughtful men?” Sorry to break it to you, fellas, but YOU are what’s wrong with men today.
Anyway, I’m tapping out for now. I’m taking the day off. Maybe a couple of days. There’s stuff going on in GamerGate I should be writing about but, you know, I just can’t. I need to clear my head.
H/T — r/againstmensrights
Thinking about it, wasn’t Elliot Roger basically the real-life version of Travis Bickle from Taxi Driver? There’s that exact same resentment of the world and women in particular for not dating them, and Roger’s Youtube manifesto sounds a lot like one of Travis’ voiceovers, specifically “Listen, you fuckers, you screwheads. Here is a man who would not take it anymore. A man who stood up against the scum, the cunts, the dogs, the filth, the shit. Here is a man who stood up.” Actually, that sounds like all MRA speeches come to think of it.
There’s also the fact that Bickle himself was based on a real man called Arthur Bremer, who shot US senator George Wallace. Bremer’s (now published) journal specifically states that he wanted “to do SOMETHING BOLD AND DRAMATIC, FORCEFUL & DYNAMIC, A STATEMENT of my manhood for the world to see.”
@filmrunner But wasn’t Bickle more a sensitive guy who was just disgusted by all the depravity around him and snapped rather than “I deserve to date a hot girl and can’t get one! Waaah!”?
Also figure skating is mostly fixed anyway. Any sport which is judged by humans is not going to be fair.
Oh, you mean like…FRATBOYS?
Yeah, that idiot who wrote that…you could tell HE never went to college. My first day at uni, before I even got to campus, I was assailed by signs on student-ghetto houses reading “Kiss your virginity goodbye” and “Shave yer dotter’s box” [sic]. If that’s any indication of the domestication levels of college guys, I don’t want to see the wild motherfuckers. I don’t NEED to. The fact that we were constantly warned about the risks associated with drinking too much, while the guys were NOT told to refrain from raping…well, so much for the “aggressively vulnerable”, ultra-protected status of college women. Truth is, we were aggressively held to blame for everything any guy ever did to us. The guys got off scot-free. Still do.
And yeah, how about that “border patrol” porn. I posted that very link to my Facebook page yesterday morning, with a the comment: “Rape is NOT sex. But trust the porn industry to blur that not-so-fine line.” The idea that porn can teach us anything worthwhile about sex sure does crumble in the face of shit like that.
PS: Surya Bonaly is awesome. Fuck the haters; I always found her incredibly beautiful. Not every great skater can look and move like a Balanchine ballerina, fergawdsakes. And they shouldn’t have to. Some move like acrobats and gymnasts, others (Elvis Stojko being a case in point) like martial arts experts. The lack of diversity over what constitutes “artistic” has always bugged me, even though I love to watch skating. Several years ago, Ms. magazine described figure skating as “a sport out of whack”, and they were right. It was that way long before the whole Kerrigan/Harding kerfuffle, too.
They really ought to call it “conformity” instead of “artistry” in my opinion; skaters true to a clearly artistic vision have tended to get punished for it if it didn’t stay inside a very narrow range. Two other Frenchwomen whose careers overlapped with Surya Bonaly’s, Laetitia Hubert and Vanessa Gusmeroli, were consistently undermarked for programs that were usually far more interesting than those of the vast majority of the competitors. And after hearing her knocked for years as “unconventional”, I greatly enjoyed seeing Denise Biellmann figuratively getting the last laugh by becoming the modern standard.
What?
WHAT?
We’re nothing but drugs to them! I think I get it now. We might be annoyed at best if our advil suddenly started talking back and saying we couldn’t swallow it unless it wanted to be swallowed. You’re a pill, advil! You were developed to relieve my pain! Stop talking! That’s how they think of us. As things that were developed for men’s needs and shouldn’t have wills of our own, but do.
And that is just so fucking creepy. It’s basically that “age of consent is misandy” bullshit. Won’t someone think of the 30 + age men who can’t “relate” to women over 18?
For some reason, this made me cackle way too much.
Painkiller Dude can stumble over all the Legos, and I hope he’s out of Advil.
One of the reasons I’m pretty insistent that the MRA movement is wholesale racist, other than that it’s a bunch of white guys being hateful, is that the precious 1950s white suburban lifestyle that the MRAs have a movement-wide fetish for was pretty much a world in which people of color don’t exist. Add that in with the fact that the MRA’s interpretation of maleness is a strictly Caucasian/Western/Northern concept of gender, and you’ve got a level of structural racism within a movement that, when advocated by a posse that’s almost exclusively white men, arises to that it’s a white supremacist movement.
i always laugh at the “give gold” option on reddit posts. probably because i’m not really familiar with the context but to me it’s like reddit being all “would you like to give some ACTUAL GOLD BARS to the person who wrote that really shitty cringey thing? like come on they REALLY DESERVE IT”, it’s so hilarious
by the way first time commenting here if that’s even a thing
keep up the good work <3
@fotocopiadora: Hello and welcome! If you scroll down and look below the Lavender Seal (which is right next to this comment on my monitor, at least) you’ll find a candle: That’s the link to the WHTM welcome package, which explains a lot of community rules and injokes.
Me too. I picture them all inundating each other with their LIQUID EFFING GOLD.
(context link, for reference: https://www.wehuntedthemammoth.com/2013/09/04/pickup-artist-my-seed-is-liquid-gold-and-i-dont-give-it-out-like-its-god-damn-tap-water/ )
Also, welcome!
Me three…only I picture the liquid gold as pee.
Yay! Another new person!
Definitely check out the scented candle link, and welcome to the board!