If you grit your teeth and do a search for #GamerGate and #Ferguson together on Twitter, you will find Tweet after Tweet from worried #GamerGaters earnestly imploring their comrades not to make any connections between the two hashtags. Why? Because they know that those who cross the streams are likely to Tweet things like the following.
This what happens when #GamerGaters try to make sense of what is happening in Ferguson.
#GamerGate is more relevant to me than Ferguson because, well, I'm not a black Missourian, but I am a gamer.
— Jason "Rabbit" (@Klohinx) November 25, 2014
https://twitter.com/SHREKFLEX/status/537070193311494144
https://twitter.com/fireye47/status/537088458406125568
I feel for #MikeBrown's family and supporters, but most of all, I feel for #Ferguson liquor store owners tonight.
— Izel (@i_z_e_l_s) November 25, 2014
You have to be understanding about the #FergusonRiots. After all, don't white people riot every time a black suspect is acquitted? #Ferguson
— Izel (@i_z_e_l_s) November 25, 2014
https://twitter.com/Noin007/status/537095206630199297
#Ferguson is a great example of how SJW mindset just leads to irrational behavior #GamerGate
— Shota Loli Trap (@ShotaLoliTrap) November 25, 2014
SJW's looting and setting fire to stores, yeah you're really showing you're "peaceful". #GamerGate #Ferguson
— Shota Loli Trap (@ShotaLoliTrap) November 25, 2014
https://twitter.com/PKtheHedgehog/status/537104422472400896
https://twitter.com/PettanPettan/status/537105479030173696
#gamergate #ferguson HA! pic.twitter.com/kOyS6DlH53
— EthicsGate (@Ethics_Gate) November 25, 2014
https://twitter.com/MaxSkyFan/status/537184055004266496
https://twitter.com/PettanPettan/status/537197193501765632
https://twitter.com/PrestariumRetar/status/537273589616365570
https://twitter.com/ItalyGG/status/537276021096329217
https://twitter.com/triumfantloser/status/537290714896674816
Oh, and yes, these are all genuine #GamerGaters; check out their timelines for proof, and you’ll also see some of the terrible racist crap some of them have been tweeting and retweeting.
(I should have looked at your twitter before jumping on you, though, so sorry about that.)
I presume they meant the white “Hijacktivist” (what a stupid word) agitators that used the protests as an excuse to fuck shit up, knowing that the cops, media and racists would blame it on the protesters, and weren’t aware of the dogwhistle?
What I’m seeing so far actually seems to indicate selective targetting of businesses with predatory business models, though (like payday lenders), so I don’t think the term would apply even if it wasn’t a dogwhistle.
The outside agitators, though, they also can go step on all the damn legos. They showed up in Oakland for the verdict in the Oscar Grant case, too, and just like in Ferguson, nobody wanted them there.
Comparing gamergaters who are taking advantage of this situation to bolster their cause is actually just as relevant to those who did loot in Ferguson the other night. That being said, they were both bullshit tactics that have nothing to do whatsoever with the heart of the matter.
I’m actually going to say I’m very proud of how about midnight or so, the protesters you could see in updated pictures and vines and other assorted media outlets were nothing but peaceful in their demands for justice. Even during the initial negative reactions of those who were not riot control officers out there, you could see unity even among gang members who hated each other by code: bloods and crips were blocking stores. There were people holding up and trying to take a woman to get medical care after she had a heart attack, even though they were still being hit by tear gas. And afterwards, they still had a quiet sit in by the police station.
That beautiful conviction in the ones I’m proud of probably should have been mentioned earlier, but I refuse to mix that with gamergate.
I think part of my confusion here is that there is no point to gamergate, other than throwing a tantrum and hating women. So it’s not a case of “here is the point, and here’s how you missed it/fucked it up”. There was never anything good or worthwhile there to fuck up, which is why I’m not seeing any connection to anything going on in Ferguson.
What I mean is, even if someone wanted to say that, OK, maybe some of the response in Ferguson wasn’t as constructive as it could be (and if so, that didn’t represent the majority of what was happening anyway), people there have a legitimate reason to be very angry. Gamergaters, otoh, are enraged because someone wrote a less than enthusiastic review of Jiggle Volleyball 7, and that being the case I’m inclined to going to judge them far more harshly than anyone involved in anything going on in Ferguson, even people whose actions I might not entirely agree with. Does that make sense?
But anyway, obviously I misread your initial comment, paythepiper, so sorry about that and I’ll stop rambling now.
Just two irrelevant messages using this situation to piggyback on for their cause, whatever that ignorant cause may be. (Insert a lot of eye darting and twitching, because I can’t figure out the importance of their causes.)
As best as I can figure out the gamergate cause can be summed up as “GTFO of my treehouse”. Compelling, no?
Cassandrakitty:
Don’t forget how the evil wimmens also made games that didn’t meet our Bro Code Standards of Vidya Games (patent pending) like Gone Home! How DARE reviewers give a game I didn’t personally like a ten out of ten! Misandry! Discrimination! [/sarcasm]
But I agree. I’m going to judge them far more harshly as well, simply on the fact that GamerGate doesn’t seem to be about anything other than people throwing a tantrum that games aren’t catering to their specific desires all while trying to fling shit at people who they think are far too Politically Correct for their tastes (you know, like those ess-jay-dubbyas who think women’s only place in gaming shouldn’t be simply killable, sexy background decor in games).
Meanwhile in Furgeson, people actually have a right to be angry and upset. A child was killed while the killer not only gets a million dollars (roughly half from donations and the other rough half from interviews), but gets married (which people think may be so that she doesn’t have to testify because she knows something). Their cause is far more legitimate to me than “Ethics in gaming journalism”.
All that aside (please excuse me while I rant a bit), If GamerGate was actually about “Ethics in Gaming/Gaming Journalism” then I’d be more behind it. As a gamer myself, I get tired of the constant stream of shit that AAA developers think they can get away with pointing at their consumers, and I am sick of indie developers constantly indulging in the Streisand Effect by trying to astroturf their reviews and forums and silencing any critic who dares talk shit about their shit game by waving YouTube video copyright claims around like a dog turd on a stick. There’s actually quite a LOT wrong with game *developers*.
And yeah, there are journalists out there who don’t disclose who they’re getting paid to do reviews by, and that’s also equally shitty. However, many reviewers and Let’s Players are stepping up and understanding that their viewers/readers think it’s important for them to disclose this information, so they’re doing it.
I personally feel like the problem lies more with the developers rather than the people who report on the games. I find that the biggest gripes that Gators have with the reviewers is “They said something that I don’t/do agree with about a game I like/don’t like! Bias!”
But Gators are so focused on harassing female indie developers who have literally done nothing beyond existing and making games that Gators personally don’t like that it’s impossible to say they’re about any sort of “ethics” at all that are good for gaming going forward. Especially with some of the company they keep, and the policies they want to enact.
Well, that’s fine and dandy, I have my own blanket fort. Tis far more comfy and does not smell of “dewitos.”
Ah, they’re also focused on harassing people who dare say anything bad about gaming period. Case in point: Anita Sarkeesian.
I do reviews of a different kind of entertainment and from what I can see, yeah, gaming journalism really is a bit of a mess, but the idea that that’s what this is all about? Pull the other one, it has bells on.
I do think there’s a bit of “be a smarter consumer” in there too though. I read that Buzzfeed article someone linked to and that thing about the unfinished Assassins Creed game? Yeah, if the creators of an entertainment product won’t let anyone actually see it in full or review it properly before it’s released, that always means that they know it’s terrible. Works for every type of entertainment I can think of. If they’re doing that, don’t preorder it, because it’s going to suck.
Pointing out that there is, in fact, problems with ethics in games journalism, doesn’t at all validate ‘gaters. Their attempt to whitewash their attacks on women with this topic is just like the instigators that choose some peaceful protest to scoot in behind and smash windows. They’re using some other (probably valid) topic to excuse their (unrelated) violence. There’s not much difference between ‘gaters and violent anarchists in this case. Except the latter does mostly property damage and the former mostly stalking; it’s still various types of assault.
Heck, I figured this out as a movie viewer in my teens.
“There’s none of this movie’s actual footage in this preview.”
“That means that they have so little confidence in it that they can’t even edit together it’s clips in a pleasing way.”
*comes back to check on comments*
*sees own typo*
Does anyone know why iPhones seem to default autocorrect “its” to “it’s”?
Here’s a good article on the issues with games journalism and why #gamergate gets basically everything wrong (y’know, assuming they actually care about ethics in gaming journalism): http://calmdowntom.com/2014/10/8-ways-gamergate-is-hiding-real-problems-in-games-journalism/
@proxieme, misandry. The answer to everything is misandry.
trying to read these trolls is exhausting. do they all really have the same “these are false flags” argument?
When a gamergater on Io9 tried to pull a #notallgaters on me, I gave him a link to that storify documenting the transphobic trash talk that occurred on 8Chan after a “moderate” and “nice” GGer posted his Twitter conversation with a woman. He never replied back to me. It shut him right up. Busted!
Honestly, when the only substantial difference between the trolls around here is whether they don’t understand adjectives or don’t understand verbs, can they really blame us for assuming that they’re one diarrhoetic dipshit under many thin socks?
Thing is, there’s actually two problems conflated in Ferguson.
The first is the endemic racism in our society, yes.
The second is the nigh-immunity of the cops to act as they will.
The first means that the second falls upon minority communities much more strongly. The second, in turn, means that the communities affected have no reason to trust the ‘processes… in place to protect all of us.’ That claim, in and of itself, is a mark of privilege. I’m cis, white, het, male, (lower) middle-class. The system is set up to protect me, pretty much all around the board. Poor trans women of color? Not so much. “All” is not appropriate in this situation.
As W.E.B. Dubois said “a system cannot fail those it was never meant to protect.”
Laws were made by the wealthy to protect the wealthy (as well as those who enforce those laws on their behalf). Since most of the wealthy rule makers in the US have been white cis male and straight, they system sometimes protects non wealthy people in those demographic categories as sort of a side effect.
Slightly off-topic: I seem to recall that the KKK had expressed support for Darren Wilson, and now I can’t shake up the feeling that the looters were KKK members trying to prove black people were violent. I even seem to remember reading something about it.
Problem is I don’t remember where I read that. Does this sound familiar to anyone? Did anyone read about that? Confirmation? Debunking? Anything?