Yesterday, I noted some of the nasty transphobia that had shown up in a recent /gg/ thread on 8chan, undercutting somewhat the claims to respectability we’ve been hearing a lot of from GamerGaters recently. Well, 8channers noticed my post, and weren’t exactly pleased about it.
But their responses to my post, well, they didn’t exactly suggest that the transphobia I saw in the earlier thread was some sort of fluke.
Oh, sure, some of the commenters complained, as my critics often do, that I had “quote mined” the earlier thread.
Sitting cheek by jowl next to these comments were comments of a rather different sort. Trigger Warning for threats, transphobia, homophobia, etc.
So, yeah, there’s really no need to posit vast conspiracies sending paid shills to shitpost on 8chan when it’s pretty clear a sizeable portion of their userbase is happy to post crap like this for free.
And there’s no need to mine for quotes like these when there are so many of them just sitting right there on the surface.
They don;t seem to realize their awful is front-loaded, no need for digging. I hope all these assholes get a balst of self-awareness one day.
8chan – the horribleness of 4chan times two.
It’s possible that they do believe it…it’s common right wing tactic – accuse your opponent of what you yourself are doing. Remember, they will fake screenshots to “prove” that they’re persecuted. Of all my years on the Interwebs, it seems like every asshole and their relatives will do this. It used to work all the time, but since people have wised up to it, it only works for about 20 seconds now – which is why the goalposts shift so fast you’ll get whiplash.
I love how they’re so pissed that they get exposed in their bigotry AND don’t want to “tone police” (i.e., talk like decent people) themselves AND don’t want anybody to moderate their shit ’cause freeze peach AND they want to get to be the self-righteous guys fighting for ethics.
Hee, I’d stay to count how many more iterations they try before they realize there’s a logical contradiction.
I never got 4chan and 8chan’s obsession with anime. They seem to especially enjoy using lolicons in their pictures and avatars. It’s really creepy.
@Sarah – Their idea of freedom is the same as a 15 year old’s, to be able to do whatever they want with no repercussions.
I remember being weirded out when I saw Futrelle begin to cover GamerGate and the boards it started on. This sensation of two very different worlds colliding, even though meticulously recording misogynistic bullshit is his hobby. And now seeing random 8channers calling him out?
D’oh, thanks for the facepalms, guys!
And yeah, 4chan, 8chan, what’s the difference? Between the two of them, they’ve left the bottom of the barrel way behind. Any day now, they should pop up in China.
If they do pop up in China maybe they’ll get sent to a labor camp and finally learn what the word “oppression” means.
Or maybe they’ll end up in North Korea. One can dream.
I wonder if the two are connected: anime and manga both have pretty big kiddie-porn subgenres, and unlike child porn with actual children, it’s not illegal to possess in some of their home countries.
Schopenhauer’s Law of Entropy:
If you put a spoonful of wine in a barrel of sewage, you get sewage.
If you put a spoonful of sewage in a barrel of wine, you get sewage.
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Yes, channers, YOU’RE the sewage in that analogy.
Hey guys, I have to write this paper for college. I have quite a few academic journal articles and I need to cite them. I can’t just take quotes from them, otherwise I’d be quote mining and taking quotes out of context. What do I do?
Just say that SJWs are destroying western civilization. It’s unassailable logic and sure to get you an A.
The paper is about how solid state drives will change digital forensics. Eh, it will still work.
Apparently, you just photocopy all the articles, staple them together, and put a report cover on it. That way, you never ever take anything out of context or quote mine. And since quote mining and taking things out of context are the very worst things anyone can ever do, you can be proud of the F your efforts will earn you!
Maybe add WWTH’s SJW suggestion as an addendum in the back, and it will get you that A you’ve been craving!
I’m sure there’s a YouTube video of someone proving that SJWs are ruining digital forensics. Everyone knows YouTube is the most credible source there is. Academic journals are part of the feminist/Jewish conspiracy and are not credible sources.
I’m trying so hard to sound more ridiculous than gamergaters and I am failing. Curse you Poe’s law.
Bogdan – their vision of principled resistance is standing athwart History, shouting, “YOU’RE NOT MY REAL DAD!”
Bina – 4Chan is willing to state clearly ‘Gaters not welcome’. There may not be much more difference than that, but it’s there. 8Chan proclaims ‘Gaters welcome!’ and wallows in the filth.
Oh, devoutly to be wished!
Also, I love that sewage analogy. Decent people just don’t hang out in chan-land. Bad barrels make bad apples.
Maxkey: Probably didn’t get out enough to meet a proper paranoid schizophrenic… They can be really scary.
No.
Just no.
Collateral damage is not cool.
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I’ve been struck by how “just a few bad apples” has become the go to argument for every asshole on the internet. People seem to have forgotten the phrase is “just a few bad apples spoil the bunch.”
They do seem to have forgotten that most people’s reaction to pulling out multiple bad apples would be “I don’t trust this barrel, not eating anything from here” rather than “hey, let’s try some more!”.
I have actually slept with a transsexual woman once, she was a male to female and had pre-op genitals but female everything else. After that experience I wasn’t traumatised, afraid or in any way damaged. It was just me and another consenting human being, who happened to be hated by the 4chan turd brigade.
So take it from someone who has had maybe the most minimal contact in his life with the BT part of LGBT, they ain’t that scary.
I think that “quotemining”, in this case, means “didn’t include all the comments that weren’t terrible”, as though there’s some parts-per-million threshold the shit has to cross before you’re allowed to object to it.
I saw the original thread. It was 99.9% terrible. David didn’t even post the worst comments.
In this case, the transphobia is literal fear. They’re terrified of women of all descriptions.
@ququasar
The logs GG released makes it seem that they were only banned because they constantly broke the “no spam rule”, not because the mod crew had a problem with their politics.
The bathroom thing that this one person brings up is hilarious because it’s an argument commonly presented by far right politicians and gives the implications that trans women are rapists by default, even if there are pretty much no instances of transwomen ever causing much of a situation.
Also, if I remember correctly, didn’t the US pretty much declassify transsexualism as a mental illness?
Yes, that seems to be what the APA says:
http://www.apa.org/topics/lgbt/transgender.aspx
It also mentions this, however: