Yesterday, I noted some of the nasty transphobia that had shown up in a recent /gg/ thread on 8chan, undercutting somewhat the claims to respectability we’ve been hearing a lot of from GamerGaters recently. Well, 8channers noticed my post, and weren’t exactly pleased about it.
But their responses to my post, well, they didn’t exactly suggest that the transphobia I saw in the earlier thread was some sort of fluke.
Oh, sure, some of the commenters complained, as my critics often do, that I had “quote mined” the earlier thread.
Sitting cheek by jowl next to these comments were comments of a rather different sort. Trigger Warning for threats, transphobia, homophobia, etc.
So, yeah, there’s really no need to posit vast conspiracies sending paid shills to shitpost on 8chan when it’s pretty clear a sizeable portion of their userbase is happy to post crap like this for free.
And there’s no need to mine for quotes like these when there are so many of them just sitting right there on the surface.
@Mackey:
… “Trannies” is the slur. This comment will probably be in the mod queue for a bit.
Hallo. I’m taking a crack at it.
Why is it that whenever trolls complain that “nobody wants an honest discussion,” the context is always one where people just aren’t immediately agreeing with their bullshit?
*sigh*
You mean, is there anyone who wants to pat you on the head and go “poor baby” while you whine about how mean everyone else is? Probably not.
Here is a hint for you Mackey. If the mods and the blog owner are not treating you the way you think you deserve to be treated, passive aggressive trolling is not going to improve the situation.
@katz:
Mackey is yet another sad casualty of a common argument phenomena. “If I can prove my opponent wrong on even the most trivial point, I’ve won the whole thing. Even if that point is a tangent of a tangent of a tangent.”
No one wants to discuss, either honestly or dishonestly, whether or not your personal experience and feelings is trumps, Mackey. You are a jerk and no one wants to chat with jerks.
Don’t tedious trolls get banned? There’s nothing more tedious than someone claiming that a grossly offensive ableist comment was actually not grossly offensive or ableist, or that a comment with clearly apparent slurs actually contains no slurs.
They were singing Bai Bai Miss American Pie…
@Policy of Madness:
Or claiming that nobody is engaging him when, hello, someone just prompted him to provide evidence for a claim, and addressed that evidence.
It’s like in a debate when the other side first attempts to rebut your counter-argument, then claims that no counter-argument was even made in the first place.
Katz,
The point about discussing things is essential.
I get a lot of “fuck off” and such.
Based on an interpretation of a comment of mine which I agreed to can be interpreted in a way I did not intend.
Sorry for the possible misinterpretation. Not going to excuse to the ‘mob’ here.
This is a community. You are offensive. Go away.
Mackey,
It’s not up for debate whether or not mentally ill people are scary. That talk is just plain unwelcome here. We consider it no better than asserting that black people are scary “thugs.” If you want to talk that way, this isn’t the place for you.
Give a real reason why I am not welcome, or shut up, thebewilderness
You guys, I am so bored. Surely there must be something more interesting to talk about than some dude’s grudge-match.
What’s everyone doing for Xmas? Anyone going anywhere cool?
Mackey… we didn’t actually misinterpret your first comment. At all. We reacted in a way you didn’t intend, sure, but you’ve already doubled down on the offensive interpretation of your comment (in case you’ve forgotten).
You’ve been fighting this war so long you’ve forgotten why you joined it in the first place, man!
How about for being a tedious, abrasive ass?
Telling a regular to shut up when arguing for why people should welcome you. Not the best strategy in the world.
Mackey,
You seriously don’t know what the slur was? Seriously?
Seriously?
Yeah, not dealing with that level of obliviousness, insensitivity, and nonsense today.
Mackey, I cordially invite you to exit through your browser’s appropriate buttons and nevermore grace the face of this blog until you get why your ‘moderated’ comment was moderated, and likely deleted.
Goodbye.
My aunt is having her annual Christmas party for my dad’s side of the family on the 20th and I’m going to my mom’s on Christmas day. Christmas eve I don’t have any plans yet. Maybe I’ll see if my friends want to get together.
@cassandrakitty:
I’m taking the first week of vacation I’ve taken since I started my job and steadfastly refusing to travel to the normal family gathering, avoiding the racist uncle everyone has after last year’s night-long argument of why being racist was bad.
Well, the first days are the hardest days
Don’t you worry anymore
‘Cause when life looks like easy street
There is danger at your door
No big plans for Christmas, but MrGrump and I are both off on the 25th, so our celebrations will actually be on Christmas Day. It happened last year, too, and MissGrump was so excited she told all her friends’ mommies that our family was having ‘Christmas on Christmas this year’ and no one knew what she meant. I had some shift-worker explaining to do!
@Cassandra:
I’m abandoning my station for two weeks and going to visit my folks, and cuddle with my puppies and kitty, and pat the ponies on their noses, and freeze because the weather will likely be in the 30-50 below zero range.
I’m shopping for gifts right now so I can mail them out tomorrow (postage to the UK is a pain) and found the most adorable teacup and saucer set for my gran.
You seem to be under the impression that you are entitled to tell people what to do and yet do not think you should have to raise your behavior to minimum standards of decent human being 1.0, Mackey. You are not going to argue people into finding your behavior acceptable. It is not.
Why does everyone have a racist uncle? What’s with that? Luckily mine behaved himself on Thanksgiving. The Xmas party will be much bigger so I should be able to avoid any futile political debates.
No plans for Christmas. Just chilling at home.
@Mackey:
You ask others to excuse you when you belch. You can excuse yourself when you leave a gathering.
Excusing is not something to be done when you’ve been rude. In fact, excuses are the last thing you want to make if you’ve been rude but want to get back into someone’s good graces.