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Jordan Owen rants about Fifty Shades of Grey for fifty-two minutes … in a bathtub

This somewhat alarming video was recently posted in Reddit’s GamerGhazi subreddit. It features Sarkeesian Effect co-creator Jordan Owen explaining, at some length, his disagreements with antiporn feminist Gail Dines over the book Fifty Shades of Grey. (Dines, you see, was Owen’s previous obsession, before he discovered Anita Sarkeesian; this video is a couple of years old.) Alas, the sound cuts out about halfway through the nearly hour-long video, so you won’t get to hear the whole thing.

You might also be slightly distracted by the fact that Owen delivers this lengthy critique while sitting naked in a bathtub.

 

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Unimaginative
10 years ago

Yeah, I think I googled that once. It was a mistake.

aebars
aebars
10 years ago

Okay, keeping my mouth shut from now on. Every time I’ve commented on this website in the past few weeks, I’ve ended up stepping on somebody’s toes without meaning to.

kittehserf - MOD
10 years ago

So, I googled it, with pictures, and I’m afraid my reaction was “meh”.

But it doesn’t relate to the pomegranates nonsense anyway, because that person was claiming that pomegranates look like gore, and then venturing into “if it is fruit” territory, which was downright ridiculous.

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
10 years ago

Also, we can’t tag for everything that might potentially freak someone out. It’s impossible. Tagging for stuff that’s really common and likely to affect a large number of people reading, like rape, is one thing, but expecting the internet to anticipate all the things that might freak you out even if they’re really uncommon and preemptively wrap you in bubblewrap is unreasonable.

wordsp1nner
wordsp1nner
10 years ago

Catalpa–huh. I knew that irregular hole patterns wigged me the fuck out, but I never knew what to call it.

BRB, googling something I shouldn’t.

Catalpa
Catalpa
10 years ago

Yeah, I’m not saying that everyone should pre-emptively tag everything that could ever possibly be triggery. Just saying that it would be nice for people to be aware/willling to listen about some things and maybe be willing to tag it if asked by their followers. *shrug* I mean, it’s their blog to do with as they please, and tumblr is pretty extreme with the OMG TRIGGERS THAT TRIGGERS ME ALDJLDFHJL thing, but consideration of others is nice.

wordsp1nner
wordsp1nner
10 years ago

The pomegranate didn’t actually induce that feeling in me, but I’m not everyone.

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
10 years ago

Not quite sure what that has to do with “if pomegranetes are a fruit”, but OK.

Catalpa
Catalpa
10 years ago

It doesn’t really have much to do with the pomegranate thing and I don’t think pomegranates are triggery for most/any tryphophobes.

I guess the connection in my head was hearing the “Plant material can’t be triggering! It’s PLANTS” gist, and decided to pipe in with a “well, actually…” without remembering that people aren’t privy to my internal monologue.

pallygirl
pallygirl
10 years ago

It’s floraist to assign firm fruit/vegetable roles without inquiring first.

wordsp1nner
wordsp1nner
10 years ago

Hey, I don’t really think it is something to put a trigger warning on, I’m just glad to find a way to describe something I’ve experienced since childhood.

Though I do think the “phobia” might be the wrong suffix, but I don’t know the latin for “skin-crawling nausea”.

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
10 years ago

It was more “plants are not gore, and yes, it really is a fruit, that is not something I’m telling you because I’m a lying liar what lies”, but whatever. This conversation is making my head hurt.

pallygirl
pallygirl
10 years ago

Formication?

Scared to ask: what would Jordan consider a pornography expert to be?

wordsp1nner
wordsp1nner
10 years ago

Have a big-ass cat versus tiny Chihuahua:

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
10 years ago

Himself?

diana6815
10 years ago
Reply to  wordsp1nner

I thought it was just me. First happened when I had a fever as a child…I saw holes melting in the wall … caused a flush, nausea, skin crawling, dizziness, and blurry, dark around the edges vision. Horribly unpleasant. Has happened many, many times since.

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
10 years ago

That cat looks so annoyed. I would be too if some little bouncy thing with too much energy kept smacking me in the face for no apparent reason.

Catalpa
Catalpa
10 years ago

@wordsp1nner

Yeah, I agree, it’s not a visual that inspires OMG PANIC AAAAAHHHHH feelings, which is what I think most phobias do? (I only have tryphophobia, not other ones).

It’s more of a ‘no no no no eugggggh no my skin is crawling’ deal. I don’t know if that falls under fight-or-flight response or something else. It’s decidely unpleasant, but I also dunno if it can really be compared to being triggered.

diana6815
10 years ago

it being the trypophobia..still can’t believe it has a name

wordsp1nner
wordsp1nner
10 years ago

cassandrakitty–does the cat look like you when dealing with tumblr feminists?

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
10 years ago

Spiders give me both the skin crawling and the panic get it away from me feelings, and if I have to touch one my skin crawls for hours afterwards. Still don’t expect people to go all TW : SPIDERS every time there is one on their blog though.

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
10 years ago

@ wordspinner

Nah, the cat isn’t actually leaving the room.

Catalpa
Catalpa
10 years ago

@diana6815

Yeah, it’s got a name! And it’s not terribly uncommon in my experience, just hard for most people to articulate.

Most folks who know about it seem to have learned by googling tryphophobia after seeing the word somewhere, and then going “AAAAAHHHHH” when the image results popped up.

diana6815
10 years ago

@catalpa

unfortunately, I googled the word and accidentally saw some pictures (thought I was safe if I didn’t do an image search…nope. two web links and then pictures in the results list). Nearly lost consciousness.

I guess it’s good to know I’m not nuts 🙂 well, for that reason anyway.

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