This somewhat alarming video was recently posted in Reddit’s GamerGhazi subreddit. It features Sarkeesian Effect co-creator Jordan Owen explaining, at some length, his disagreements with antiporn feminist Gail Dines over the book Fifty Shades of Grey. (Dines, you see, was Owen’s previous obsession, before he discovered Anita Sarkeesian; this video is a couple of years old.) Alas, the sound cuts out about halfway through the nearly hour-long video, so you won’t get to hear the whole thing.
You might also be slightly distracted by the fact that Owen delivers this lengthy critique while sitting naked in a bathtub.
@sunnysombrera:
My favorite was the bit (that I’ve seen, anyway) where he misheard the interview (where Gail claimed the age range for 50SoG was “16-80”) and made this absurdly pretentious statement (paraphrased).
“Christopher Hitchens said “that which is presented without evidence can be dismissed without evidence,” so your claim that the age range of the audience is 16-18 can be ignored.”
“Actually, while editing, I realized she probably said 80, not 18. Erm… she’s still wrong.”
a) It was an interview, not a blog post. Practically nobody in an interview provides citations for everything they say, especially not someone on a news show.
b) He’s literally just looking for anything to claim as wrong. Gale was claiming that women of all ages were buying the book, and she has to be wrong so therefore Owen has to claim that “16-80” is not descriptive enough despite it, you know, answering the question.
Seriously? He thinks anyone with a particular sexual interest wants to just sit and watch?
ROFLMAO omg what a loser, seriously
Kootiepatra,
Sure they do. Right up until the fighting starts. Right up until they aren’t on the winning side. Right up until instead of William Wallace, they are the men catching arrows and dying in the mud without anyone ever remembering their names.
War fantasies are fantasies. Just like sexual fantasies are fantasies. How do these dudes not get that?
I don’t like 50 Shades. Oh my sweet pickles, how I love horror though. I’ve never once desired a belt sander to the face or a xenomorph popping out of my chest. We have pretend so that we can explore ideas, feelings and situations from the safety of our imaginations. We get the thrill, titillation or other emotional tug without experiencing the real harm. I love watching Walking Dead, but I know I’d be dead before the opening credits if it were real. The smell alone might kill me and the lack of AC in Georgia and internet access would definitely drive me off my rocker. No sunblock? Put a fork in me, I’m done. I am squeezably soft. That’s the difference between imagining being Michonne and wanting to be Michonne. I like all of my family being alive.
Yay fiction!
The really sad thing is that because I saw gail dines at the Cambridge porn debate and found her completely reductionist and projecting her own sexual proclivities onto other people (i.e I don’t like this so no other woman can without it being oppressive). Soooo I looked up some people who felt the same way and watched some of this dude’s vids. They’re all 50 minutes long so I skipped to bits and bobs but obviously skipped over the worst parts. Oh dear. I had no idea I had given this wankshaft page hits.
Lea: I love horror too. Especially stories of ghosts or demonic spirits.
Does that mean I want a ghost in my house? Does that mean I’m going to deliberately summon a malicious entity to take residence in my home?
FUCK. NO.
I’m kind of buzzed right now — thanks to a bit of pinot. But no, I will not press “play”. I am tickled that everyone here is going to mock this guy, however. See? Life can be good sometimes.
My first thought on reading this post was “Why?”
This reminds me of what my college writing professor used to call “bathtub stories”. Bathtub stories are fiction that takes place entirely inside the main character’s head. For example: the protagonist gets into a bathtub, and has this giant flashback, and recalls a bunch of stuff, and thinks about some other things, and ruminates, and cogitates. At the end of the story, he/she still hasn’t gotten out of the bathtub and actually done anything.
The manosphere: one giant bathtub story.
Irene, I’m so so sorry about your kitty. I’ve nursed two in a row through kidney failure (one was also young, diagnosed at age 5). It’s an emotional roller coaster. They go along fine for awhile, then they crash and you have to nurse them back to health, then they go along for another while, etc. The biggest things that help are sub-Q fluids (kind of a pain to do at home, but it really does help them feel better) and keeping them nourished even when they don’t feel like eating. Mine were very partial to tuna juice, and canned k/d mixed with lukewarm water.
Sending you virtual hugs, and whatever distractions you need.
@Lea
For any Michonne reference — right on!
Thanks for the hugs and encouragement everyone. I’ll give kitty all the hugs when he stops feeling so miserable.
@Buttercup Q. Skullpants
I’m exactly at that stage and my big problem is that he’s eating nothing and the vets insist that he needs to eat special food for urinary infections. He won’t touch it. He’s not even 3 years old… it’s seriously driving me crazy.
I’m taking him to another vet tomorrow see if a fresh perspective can get results. The other vets told me his bladder was too damaged and that if there was kidney damaged he was a goner.
I just hope he makes it through the night, he looks so weak.
Jordan Owen. Naked in a Bathtub. Defending 50 shades of Grey. From an anti-porn feminist.
My brain turns to my liver. “I think only one of us is going to make it out of here alive.”
You guys are the funniest people on the planet!! I laughed more at your comments than the notion of Jordan Owen making a video in the bathtub.
Jordan is in a rock band, maybe metal, who the hell knows, and I expect he thinks he’s edgy.
Hahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!
Irene, do you have a stereo? When my kitty was at her weakest (fluid in her lungs) I kept music on all night. She lay between the speaker and the radiator and I think the vibrations helped her feel better.
Sending healing thoughts your way.
Irene, I am so, so sorry it’s so bad. It’s really common for cats to go off the k/d food; stuff’s so bland and has so little scent to it.
@Irene Keeping them fed was a real struggle for me, too. I often resorted to making k/d smoothies and squirting little bits in with a syringe. It was messy and took forever just to get a tablespoon in, but it was our special bonding time. Sometimes switching up the food helps. Milo liked turkey baby food and would lick it off the spoon. The vet told me that even though you’re supposed to feed a special low protein diet, you have to balance it with getting enough calories into them. If an “illegal” food is palatable to them right now, then take advantage of it, because their appetite will be fickle.
I’m sorry you’re dealing with a UTI – not sure how that interacts with kidney failure, but it probably doesn’t help matters. Hope the vet has some answers for you tomorrow.
In the meantime, give your sweet boy plenty of support and love. You’re doing the best you can for him and he’s in good hands.
Without going TMI, my personal favorite sexual fantasies are *not* represented in commercial porn. Frankly, I’d be horrified if they were, but not as much as knowing there were others out there who shared them.
None of them involve extended stays in a bathtub.
FSoG is like the BDSM equivalent of individually wrapped slices of pasteurized process American cheese. If that’s all you’ve been exposed to, you really don’t know what you’re missing.
That’s pretty much what my vet says – keep them eating. I’ve got Fribs on senior food now, which I hope is a reasonable mix for her. All she cares about is that it’s tuna and CRAB meat, which she hasn’t tasted before and has decided is the food of the gods (ie. her) and why was she never given this before?! My vet facepalmed when I told her this, but she’s long since acknowledged that Fribs has Firm Ideas about what she wants to eat. It’s easier to accept at her age, though; I can’t imagine dealing with what you’re going through with a young cat, Irene.
Extra hugs in the hug barrel.
Same here.
Prune skin: Not Sexy.
See, this is what happens when you let the Golgafrincham Captain join TGWTG.
Aurini is a smarmy, self-important clown, but man, Owen is outright unhinged.
I think Jason is actually a pretty apt comparison to gamergaters. He fits into their repressed nerd narrative. He drowned in Crystal Lake because his camp counselors were neglecting him to have sex. Then he comes back (I can’t remember if he was not dead after all or if he’s a supernatural being it’s been ages since I saw Friday 13th II) and full of unstoppable rage kills all those sex having girls as well as the boys they like.
Totally fits.
Furrinati video spree!
And this, because I thought it was funny (saw on Twitter):
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It’s kind of amazing anyone gave them money, considering how easy it is to find evidence of how low quality and unprofessional their videos are.
Random, but this is the most Tumblr thing I have ever seen on Tumblr. I love your passion for doing the right thing, Tumblr kids, but sometimes the execution could do with a bit of refinement.
Trigger warning – Pomegranate. I want to make this a thing.
http://untowardness.tumblr.com/image/102996294580
Hmm, why won’t it let me post the image? Let’s try this.
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