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Jordan Owen rants about Fifty Shades of Grey for fifty-two minutes … in a bathtub

This somewhat alarming video was recently posted in Reddit’s GamerGhazi subreddit. It features Sarkeesian Effect co-creator Jordan Owen explaining, at some length, his disagreements with antiporn feminist Gail Dines over the book Fifty Shades of Grey. (Dines, you see, was Owen’s previous obsession, before he discovered Anita Sarkeesian; this video is a couple of years old.) Alas, the sound cuts out about halfway through the nearly hour-long video, so you won’t get to hear the whole thing.

You might also be slightly distracted by the fact that Owen delivers this lengthy critique while sitting naked in a bathtub.

 

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kittehserf - MOD
10 years ago

Binjabreel, LOL! Pattern recognition!

Dawn Incognito, yow, that would have been quite the awakening!

Fribs is much the same at the vet. She just goes paralytic. I didn’t have too much difficulty injecting her at home; she’s small and frail and doesn’t put up much of a fight (easiest cat in the world to pill, thank goodness). But she did get to the point of squirming and jumping down, and that said enough. Plus, having to do umpteen injections a day (it would have been fifteen if I’d done as many as the vet said) was just too much to ask of her; and if I get a job, I wouldn’t be home to do them anyway.

I’d hoped to get the tuna flavoured Hills k/d diet, but it isn’t shipped to Australia. I tried her on the Royal Canin but turned up her nose at it. Dine Senior it is, then … Mind you, she’s 19, so I’m not stressing wildly about extending her life, just seeing that she’s happy for whatever time she has here.

wordsp1nner
wordsp1nner
10 years ago

Last time I took Pan to the vet, the vet tech had to untangle his tail from the wires near the computer station because he’d gone exploring over their with his tail at full-mast. Repeatedly.

He also gave her nose kisses.

He’s not the most picky cat in the world when it comes to people.

Robert
Robert
10 years ago

I would post pictures of my fur-free kids, but they’re at ages where picture taking is unwelcome (seventeen and thirteen).

Zolnier – I hope you meant ‘bowls’. Oh, yes I do.

Jody – that reminds me of a conversation I had with a Second Wave feminist back in university*. She was explaining with glacial condescension that all porn – full stop, no exceptions – degraded women. I pointed out that the porn I consumed (and produced) had no women in it. “There is *always* a feminized partner,” she countered. I have always remembered that conversation.

*Very early 1980s.

hellkell
hellkell
10 years ago

Oh yes, those horrid second wave feminists. Porn is degrading to everyone in involved to varying degrees. Fuck off, creep.

kittehserf - MOD
10 years ago

wordsp1nner – LOL. Katie used to do that – not get her tail tangled in stuff, but explore everything in the surgery, including stamping around on the keyboard.

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
9 years ago

All of the kitties are adorable, especially the little black kitty who’s posing so cooperatively.

The current turn of the conversation, otoh…aren’t you old enough yourself to make your sneering at the Second Wave ladies a bit ironic, Robert? In any case, people are allowed to have different opinions about porn than you do, free country and all.

pallygirl
pallygirl
9 years ago

I have no idea how we got from Jody’s comment:

I love Gail Dines. She is against the violence and degradation we see against women in a great deal of mainstream porn. Especially the gonzo that has become more mainstream. She explains what an effect this has on our sex lives and how lots of men try and pressure their girlfriends into doing things they see in pornos that they may not like. That pornography is where we get most of our sex education from and it hijacks our ability to find out what we like for ourselves. The titles of most porns are hugely racist and demeaning to women calling them cum buckets, sluts, etc,

To Robert’s comment:

Jody โ€“ that reminds me of a conversation I had with a Second Wave feminist back in university*. She was explaining with glacial condescension that all porn โ€“ full stop, no exceptions โ€“ degraded women. I pointed out that the porn I consumed (and produced) had no women in it. โ€œThere is *always* a feminized partner,โ€ she countered. I have always remembered that conversation.

WTF? The first comment appears to have nothing to do with gay porn, and I fail to see the relevance of what your interest in, or production of, gay porn has to do with a comment that points out some of the issues with heterosexual porn as it relates to the women.

Jeez, if something was slipped in my tea again, this is not the trip I would like.

kittehserf - MOD
9 years ago

Y’know, theres’ a certain irony in women being slapped down on a feminist site, by a man who’s not into hetero porn, for expressing approval of a woman who fights to point out how abusive the porn industry is to women.

Policy of Madness
Policy of Madness
9 years ago

@robert

as i know you know, a non-trivial quantity of male gay porn depicts the penetrating partner as active, and the receptive partner as passive and needy. it’s obviously wrong to claim that all male gay porn conforms to this pattern, but this is what Long Ago Feminist was probably talking about: the conception that people who penetrate are active (actors) and people who are penetrated are passive (objects). this is a societal meme that does harm women.

Myriad
Myriad
9 years ago

@Irene, @kittehserf I am so sorry to hear about your kitties. I just lost my sweet kitty, Bones, last week to kidney failure (his picture is my icon). My heart is still very heavy, but his brother has suddenly started giving me tons of kitty love, so he is making me feel better. I do hope you and your kitties are able to get through this. My vet has been a great comfort in that we know we did everything we could for Bones. I sincerely hope things turn out better for the both of you and your kitties and you get to spend more time with them.

emilygoddess - MOD
emilygoddess - MOD
9 years ago

Jody โ€“ that reminds me of a conversation I had with a Second Wave feminist back in university*. She was explaining with glacial condescension that all porn โ€“ full stop, no exceptions โ€“ degraded women. I pointed out that the porn I consumed (and produced) had no women in it. โ€œThere is *always* a feminized partner,โ€ she countered. I have always remembered that conversation.

So a feminist had a negative opinion of porn once and you’re still butthurt about it thirty years later. And we’re supposed to be sympathetic?

Leaving aside the validity of the difference between gay and het porn (I don’t know enough to comment), the fact that you felt the need to defend your own porn consumption/production against the meaniepants sex-hating second waver is pretty much the standard male response when confronted with anti-porn opinions. Just saying.

Kim
Kim
9 years ago

Well, said PoM.

Re: the assumption that everyone here is the same kind of feminist with the same opinions on porn…

Have our mentions of the hivemind been too convincing? Do we need disclaimers on a mockery blog when the hivemind is mentioned that it’s irony and actually means we aren’t a monolith?

Also, don’t forget you can send your kitties on a virtual photoshopped adventure at http://wheresthecatat.tumblr.com. You can submit there or just tell me if you’d like me to use a pic on this thread. I’ve also started a sister blog called wheredthedoggo.tumblr.com for your doggy friends.

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
9 years ago

That certainly is some impressive grudge-holding. I have to wonder if the grudge would still be in place if the person being critical had been a man.

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
9 years ago

Also, this thread has become un-fun in the way that is sadly becoming predictable here, so here is a kitten.

http://38.media.tumblr.com/b7fe4e3b415b55b12d8130bbe37f4356/tumblr_neg8u5kYGH1qdlh1io1_500.gif

pallygirl
pallygirl
9 years ago

I love that gif! ๐Ÿ™‚

gilshalos
9 years ago

Can we give Robert a break ? I’d be pissed off at what she said too, and it’s the sort of story you’d repeat even decades later.

wordsp1nner
wordsp1nner
9 years ago

Cassandrakitty–I need that kitty pie bed!

Just maybe about three times the size ๐Ÿ™‚

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
9 years ago

I would totally buy that bed if I could a. find it and b. it was adult cat sized.

Policy of Madness
Policy of Madness
9 years ago

that looks like a crafty project made by a person w/ amazing skeelz

Lea
Lea
9 years ago

Myriad,
Condolences and hugs.

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
9 years ago

I am skill-free as far as crafts are concerned, unfortunately. Also lazy.

Myriad
Myriad
9 years ago

@Lea Thank you.

@cassandrakitty Kitten cherry pie is by far the cutest pie. ๐Ÿ™‚

weirwoodtreehugger
9 years ago

Kitten pumpkin pie sounds like a pretty cute pie too
http://www.bandofcats.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/cat-wallpaper_04.jpg

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
9 years ago

@ gilshalos

No. You realize that multiple regulars here are more Second Wave than Third, and not particularly on board the pro-porn train? People every right to push back when they’re being sneered at.

Bina
Bina
9 years ago

Ooh a polydactyl! On of my cats growing up, Clio the cream tabby was a polydactyl. She was such a pretty and elegant cat except for those big awkward 6 clawed paws. It just made her so much more adorable.

Yup. Extra toes for extra cute! She’s a fast runner and an amazing climber, so obviously her supersize mitts don’t slow her down in the least. I’ve actually seen her climb right to the top of that screen door in a flash. If she would only stay up there long enough for me to get a picture… (le sigh)

Aw! Bina, sheโ€™s looks so cute and fierce!

She is! Although there’s not a mean bone in her. She was actually padding her paws in the screen door when I took the picture. Like, as in purring on somebody’s lap, only vertically.

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