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Charles Manson, dating coach?

Charles Manson, Alpha Male of the Cell block?
Charles Manson, Alpha Male of the Cell block?

So the Associated Press is reporting that Charles Manson, everyone’s favorite orchestrator of mass murder, is planning to marry. His future bride is a 26-year-old groupie who’s been trying to convince the world for nine years that Charlie is innocent.

According to one self-proclaimed dating expert and regular contributor to Return of Kings, the fact that “the 80-year-old murderer is marrying a hotter girl than [nice guys will] ever get,” is proof that guys need to start channelling their own inner Charles Manson in order to become the “bad boy” that women really go for.

As “Trouble Maker” puts it,

This woman is just an extreme case, but her actions in this case largely represent the way woman act as a whole. There is just no resisting the panty moistening allure of the bad boy for them. …

She’s definitely cute, at least in these pictures being spread around by the media. …

Meanwhile, the stable computer programmer is left running macros on POF [Plenty of Fish] in hopes that he catches a whale.

I actually sort of hope that would-be pickup artists start tattooing swastikas on their foreheads. It would make them a lot easier to identify at a glance.

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katz
10 years ago

I’m sure that’s a completely hypothetical computer programmer who spams Plenty of Fish that we’re talking about.

steampunked (@steampunked)

But it’s so goddamn weird. I’ve been with my stable computer programmer for two decades now. I met him while in a STEM degree – that I was also getting.

Do none of these people ever talk to actual programmers/coders? I work for a giant organisation, almost everyone’s partnered at my age to someone similar in interests to them. Female coders, scientists, etc. I’m sure some folks are single without wanting to be – life and romance are a crap shoot.

But…the majority of people who want partners end up partnered. Wouldn’t that make the majority of men like Charles Manson by this guy’s logic?

titianblue
titianblue
10 years ago

No, no, you remember, Katz, there was that guy who spammed the dating sight to get dates and who was shocked that anyone might question the ethics of setting up a program to systematically lie to women on the internet in order to get dates.

Shiraz
Shiraz
10 years ago

So, “nice guys” need to channel their own inner Charles Manson? If you have an inner Manson, you’re not a nice guy. Why do they assume every man has an inner Manson?

Damn, their own perspectives on men is appalling.

titianblue
titianblue
10 years ago

Because obviously that’s the only choice in life for lonely het men:
1. Become a mass murderer
2. Create a program to deliberately lie to 100s of women on a dating site.

There is no third way.

Randomavatar
Randomavatar
10 years ago

We should seek to emulate Chales Manson

TOTES NOT EVIL!

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There isn’t enough facepalm in the world for this level of idiocy.

seraph4377
10 years ago

Running macros on a dating site? Seriously? And he wonders why he’s having trouble meeting anyone? Here’s a tip, jackass: you have to engage with the women like they were people.

Also, if “hoping for a whale” translates into human as “I’m so desperate I’m willing to settle for a fatty”, fuck you. The BBW’s of the internet can do much better than you.

seraph4377
10 years ago

@titianblue – I question the utility of setting up a program to systematically lie to women on the internet in order to get dates. You don’t end up partnered. You don’t even get laid unless the woman on the other end is so horny that she doesn’t care about anything else…which is pretty rare. What you get is a lot of awkward first dates where your date realizes that you aren’t what they expected.

diana6815
10 years ago

(scratches head)

Assuming for one second that idolizing Charles Manson isn’t bats**t crazy…

how could a PUA or MRA respect him? His ‘family’ was largely (not exclusively but largely) women and they did all the violence (isn’t that alpha male territory?) … and his ‘family’ killed an 8-months pregnant woman (I thought they were all about the procreation)

It’s a shame when people’s ethics go out the window just because their back’s against the wall. I mean, I know they want dates, but come on … couldn’t they find manlier serial killer to look up to? One who represents their core values a little bit better? 😉

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
10 years ago

I also am confused about why anyone would want to write a program that would pretty much guarantee painfully awkward dates where the other person is disappointed to meet them.

brooked
brooked
10 years ago

This woman is just an extreme case, but her actions in this case largely represent the way woman act as a whole.

“Charles Manson is just an extreme case, but his actions in this case largely represent the way men act as a whole.”

I’m always amazed how these guys always seem to be either leghumping high-minded, albeit somewhat vague, principles based on their undying love of logic, reason and science, or pooping out an endless stream hair-brained unsubstantiated claims and baseless kooky theories.

titianblue
titianblue
10 years ago

Apparently the internet dating site spammer wrote a book about spamming the internet dating site, going on a hundred dates and meeting his fiancee. I can only assume it was a work of fiction.

katz
10 years ago

When your actions lie at the intersection of ineffective and unethical, you need to rethink your choices.

thebewilderness
thebewilderness
10 years ago

Before taking that advice I think the hypothetical computer programmers should consider if they really do want to attract women who has an interest in mass murder. Just saying.

weirwoodtreehugger
10 years ago

how could a PUA or MRA respect him? His ‘family’ was largely (not exclusively but largely) women and they did all the violence (isn’t that alpha male territory?)

I’m absolutely not arguing with your larger point here, but I feel compelled to out myself as someone who knows way too much about Charles Manson here by pointing out an error. Although he did have more women in his family than men, the women didn’t do all the violence. One of his followers Charles “Tex” Watson participated in both the Tate and La Bianca murders. A follower name Robert Beausoleil killed Gary Hinman before the Tate murders but this murder was never publicized as much.

Sorry. I’ve read Helter Skelter too many times apparently. And no, any lurking trolls, the fact that I’m fascinated by this case in no way means I want a sexual or romantic relationship with Manson. Ick.

Kim
Kim
10 years ago

I also am confused about why anyone would want to write a program that would pretty much guarantee painfully awkward dates where the other person is disappointed to meet them.

Because those women should just give him a chaaaaaaance, while also not leading him on or friendzoning him.

thebewilderness
thebewilderness
10 years ago

Do you have an interest in mass murder? Do you put that on your dating profile?

JM
JM
10 years ago

Yeah, Charles Manson got married because all women got bad boys.

Not because the woman in question wanted media attention.
Not because the woman in question wanted a relationship where she would literally never have to live with her husband.
Not because the individual woman had individual factors making her want to marry a person who will never be released from prison.

Must be all women. /ssss

And really, this message of “She’s hotter than any girl you’re ever going to date”-sometimes I wish some of the more ignorant guys would listen to actually happy people, rather than keep on hanging around people angry at society, at the world, at women, and ultimately at themselves. My wife is the most beautiful woman in the world, as far as I’m concerned, and no one even comes to close to her. I don’t care if someone Is marrying younger, or someone else is marrying a supermodel-she is the most amazing and beautiful woman because we make each other happy. And surprisingly I didn’t need to kill a single person in order to marry her.

If, for once, those who followed the PUA’s, and all their ilk decided to emulate those who are feeling the way they’d like to feel most of the time, instead of those who are feeling the way they feel right now, but are getting different results; – maybe, just maybe they’d stop trying to seek out a magic bullet to improve their lives, and start actually improving their lives.

Bina
10 years ago

Uh, Manson married the dupe in April already. Why is this a story now?

Also, what does it say about these guys that they think a sociopathic cult brainwasher is a role model when it comes to, uh, “dating”?

diana6815
10 years ago

weirwoodtreehugger

bad grammar on my part…by “they” I meant the family not exclusively the women

I guess my little sister was right…I suck at making jokes 🙂

titianblue
titianblue
10 years ago

If you want to know more about the computer programmer, his name is Chris McKinlay. He used the university mainframe that he was supposed to be using for his PhD thesis to hack OkCupid. Because obviously it’s also perfectly ethical to misuse university property.

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
10 years ago

How would you even bring that up with a potential partner? Hi, my name is Susie and I like Italian food, long walks on the beach, and serial killers. Not that I’m saying that you should go out and kill people but, you know, if you’re reading this from death row then drop me a line?

proxieme
proxieme
10 years ago

But it’s so goddamn weird. I’ve been with my stable computer programmer for two decades now. I met him while in a STEM degree – that I was also getting.

*scratches head*

And I met my (now) stable computer programmer when he was a Cutural Studies/Lit grad student who could hold much more involved discussions on feminist and AfAm theory than I’ll ever be able and we were both dorkus A/V nerds.
*squints harder*
And then I was the breadwinner while he pursued his dream of teaching in Higher Ed [slash] discovered that he hates working in academia.

*shrugs*

We must not have gotten the appropriate Ebil Wimmin™ memos.

proxieme
proxieme
10 years ago

When your actions lie at the intersection of ineffective and unethical, you need to rethink your choices.

*snort*

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