Brianna Wu — game developer, #GamerGate target #3 — got a Tweet sent to her yesterday announcing that “respects is earn not shrilly demanded.”
Mangled grammar aside, this is an “argument” we hear a lot from misogynistic men as a way of explaining away their lack of respect for women as a gender. Wu thought this inadvertantly lollcatty version of this cliche was too good to let vanish in the internet ether, and suggested that the phrase “respects is earn” be immortalized in a meme.
Can someone make us a meme for, "Respects is earn?" pic.twitter.com/7aLGokbOwk
— Brianna Wu (@BriannaWu) November 17, 2014
And so it was. The cat above is @RobIsAWriter’s interpretation; here (after the bump) are a few more.
@Spacekatgal I can see u no have kitten. here is kitteh. pic.twitter.com/mczxui2QOq
— Christina (@cwodtke) November 17, 2014
@Spacekatgal pic.twitter.com/dvVCPV28F6
— Jonathan Hardesty (@movieguyjon) November 17, 2014
https://twitter.com/iateacat/status/534168547757268993
https://twitter.com/beforeyouknowit/status/534168901559390208
https://twitter.com/CaelynEllis/status/534169962328236032
@Spacekatgal pic.twitter.com/irpSO4vA26
— Jon Biles (@Redswipe) November 17, 2014
https://twitter.com/hoodieripper/status/534170518241284096
https://twitter.com/eddyapplesauce/status/534171231742730241
@Spacekatgal pic.twitter.com/H7IMTJ1uWY
— Peter Durfee (@Durf) November 17, 2014
https://twitter.com/hoodieripper/status/534181430419415040
https://twitter.com/themojowire/status/534185910779133953
https://twitter.com/chaicube/status/534176480801349632/photo/1
Obviously, Aretha Franklin needed to be a part of this:
@adamgoesto11 @spacekatgal pic.twitter.com/VTWVQgdIus
— Jennifer 🏳️⚧️ (@StingRay02) November 17, 2014
Even if we set aside the misogyny for a moment, it seems to me that “respect is earned” is a rather backward way of looking at it. Shouldn’t the default be respect instead of not respect? That is, shouldn’t we treat everyone with a basic level of respect to begin with, downgrading this only if the person in question says or does something that makes them less worthy of respect? And even then give them at least a minimal amount of respect for simply being human?
Oh, and before any #GGers get indignant about it, the @GGer who Tweeted “respects is earn” is clearly a native speaker of English; go through his timeline to see.(In some of his Tweets since this meme got going he’s deliberately using lolspeak.)
H/T — r/GamerGhazi
I cannot even. Respects is earn… are we sure he didn’t mean “expects is earn?” Because he has to earn the ability to have others do what he expects? By having reasonable expectations, ya know?
And since he *doesn’t* have reasonable expectations… people don’t do what he expects, and so he doesn’t think they deserve any respects.
I’m rhyming now, I guess. This is what happens when I post while I’m tired. :/
https://imgflip.com/i/e9ptk
There’s also professional respect, which is what Wu is insisting on, which we might define as ‘a basic level of acceptance that, while I don’t pretend to be right about everything in the world ever, I’m speaking from a position of knowledge and the experience and probably know more than someone who doesn’t have comparable knowledge and experience.’ Which isn’t about courtesy, it’s about acknowledging basic reality.
And a female professional knowing better than an amateur male geek? CANNOT BE! When a guy bases his masculinity on his geek-hood and vice versa, a woman who out-experts him and doesn’t use that expertise to validate him is the end of the world.
‘Knowledge and experience’, not ‘knowledge and the experience.’ That was practically lolcat-speak in its own right!
I looked at that conversation and of course, he’s the one being shrill and stupid and Brianna is calm and like, normal.
I was thinking last night about some of the conversations I had during my years working in HIV. It was 88-91so still lots of politics and fear. I dealt with plenty of homophobes and addictphobic people as well as health care folk who were freaked out and had the occasional phone call but there was no social media so no screen to hide behind. It makes a huge difference in what most people are willing to say if they have to look you in the eye. Maybe things were said behind my back, I’ll never know and I don’t care. Like Brianna, I was and still am proud of my role then and I know I helped people as she will.
She is not far from here actually.
{waves}. You go girl!!
This kind of attitude reflects why libertarians tend to score high on Authoritarian Personality scales. It’s all focused on Personal Responsibility And Agency, but there comes out this deeply held, completely rigid, hysterically emotional belief that there are RIGHT WAYS and WRONG WAYS to get social capital and power. Having other people feel compassion for you, that’s a wrong way to do it. Organizing is a wrong way to do it. Calling attention to group-based unfairness is a REALLY wrong way to do it.
Respect and earn, two weasel words that weasel great together.
@seraph4377: OH MY GOD THAT IS THE MOST PERFECT SUMMARY IN THE EXISTENCE OF FSM.
Yessssssssssss. /Yessssss/.
@seraph4377, nail, head, BOOM.
Absolutely. The only thing these guys respect is physical power. Ideas mean nothing to them. A woman can completely pwn them verbally, smack them down, destroy their flimsy logic and morally empty arguments, and they still won’t accord one iota of respect. Instead, they’ll retaliate with a horrendous torrent of threats and insults and abuse to demonstrate their own physical power. Whereas Chris Kluwe gets a free pass for saying exactly the same things, because he can bench press a house and punt a football 50 yards.
There is something called common courtesy
Don’t know if anybody did this one yet
https://imgflip.com/i/e9ws0
I googled a bit on the KKK operation and would you know it…
sounds like the kind of language GGers are using.
http://imgur.com/j0aoXyE
I love how the same people who sneer at me that “Respects is Earn” turn into whiny children when I refuse to respect them because of their refusal to even give me the common courtesy of not being an absolute jerk to me.
But, clearly, respects is not earned via good grammar…
(I’ll show myself out now)
This reminds of the time there was actually an argument about trigger warnings on my dash. One person, who owned a business frequented by several people I followed, posted a rant about how trigger warnings were weird and useless and that no one should use them. (Yeah, on the official tumblr for his shop; how classy.) And then someone I followed reblogged this rant to agree. While using bullshit to explain why people who have triggers should not be allowed on tumblr (and therefore, why they refused to tag triggers on any post they reblogged), they stated “being treated with kindness is a PRIVILEGE that you have to earn!”
Never unfollowed someone so fast. e.o
If you have to earn respects, maybe this explains why so many men in the manosphere say they will have nothing to do with baby and early childhood care – those little brats just haven’t earn respects so Alpha Daddy will ignore them until they beat someone up (boys) or show sufficient submissiveness (girls) – thereby earning their place as human (as close to human as is possible in the case of girls, of course) in the bizarro world of the manosphere.
Dear GamerGomers: DISrespect is earned. And you have earned all of mine.
Fuck you very much.
This smacks of Dark Enlightenment rhetoric – something like ‘if you deserved respect (like me), you would already have mine. You don’t, so you don’t. Neener, neener.’
Miss Manners once wrote that society is like a complicated piece of machinery, and good manners/etiquette/courtesy are the lubricant that keeps the gears from grinding. When people abandon them for various specious reasons, they are inevitably gobsmacked when the machinery (that they were depending on without realizing it) begins to break down. Of course, some of these wowsers actually believe they’d be better off without society holding them back, because they sure as Hell don’t realize that it’s holding them *up*.
Sooner or later, it had to be done.
http://i62.tinypic.com/2d895v.jpg
Respect is an Ode on a Grecian Urn.
The hilarious thing is, these Gomers are all “Respect Mah Authoritah” types themselves. Excuse me, boys, who is being shrill and demanding, again?
When I lived in Boulder, Colorado, my favorite underground grotto bar had a big sign that said “GIVE RESPECT–GET RESPECT.” I always thought that was a very enlightened notion.