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Manosphere philosopher F. Roger Devlin asks: "Is the Violence Against Women Act an attempt to get back at men for their failure to put women in their place?"

I don't get it either.
I don’t get it either.

You may remember woman-hating white nationalist F. Roger Devlin as the guy who invented “hypergamy” – or at least the misogynistic cartoon version of the concept popular in Men’s Rights and other “red pill” subcultures.

Well, Devlin also has some thoughts on domestic violence, and they make even less sense.

In a recent post on the far-right Counter-Currents Publishing website, Devlin takes on what he calls “The Question of Female Masochism.” His basic thesis: that women – or at least a lot of them – get a sexual thrill out of being physically abused.

His proof? That Clark Gable won the hearts of female moviegoers by playing a series of macho cads. And that Tammy Wynette married a number of men who allegedly abused her. Devlin writes:

If Tammy Wynette never took up with a man who failed to abuse her, there can be only one explanation: Tammy had a thing for nasty boys.

If you put a woman like this in a room with a dozen men, within five minutes she would be exclusively focused on the meanest, most domineering and brutal fellow in the room.

Also something about cavemen and chimps and how women are a bunch of manipulative monsters; my eyes glazed over.

So far this is fairly standard-issue misogynistic victim-blaming. But Devlin, clever fellow that he is, takes it a step further.

As he sees it, society has done such a good job of controlling the violent tendencies that women secretly pine for “rough men” like Clark Gable, who aren’t afraid to put women “in their place” even if it means punching them in the nose.

A society-wide failure of men to take charge of women is likely to produce a great deal of conscious or unconscious sexual frustration in women which may express itself as sadism.

And so, as Devlin sees it, these women – a bunch of mascochists turned sadists – are taking their revenge against wimpy men by … supporting laws against domestic violence. No, really, that’s what he thinks:

Is the Violence Against Women Act an attempt to get back at men for their failure to put women in their place? Surely women would rather have Clark Gable than take out more restraining orders, force men to take more anger management classes, enjoy more absurd police-state protections from men who are increasingly wimpy anyway.

Uh, what? I’ll let Bea Arthur handle this one.

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pallygirl
pallygirl
5 years ago

🙁 to the news about Sean Bean.

Hugo Weaving: loved him in Priscilla, didn’t like much about The Matrix, and hated him in LoTR because he Talked. Like. Agent. Smith. In. Every. LoTR. Scene. He. Was. In.

pawsjones
pawsjones
5 years ago

re: Sean Bean

Yeah, unfortunately all signs point to it. His latest ex wife (they might be dating again?) called the police on several occasions and he’s been arrested for it a few times, but never taken to trial I don’t think. I admit it seems like they had/have a toxic relationship in general and there are things that makes you think she’s pretty abusive herself too, but that doesn’t excuse his behaviour as far as I’m concerned. He’s had this not so appealing combination of boozing, abuse and younger women as a pattern for some years now. There are lots of articles about it floating around.

Sharpe would nevah!!

gilshalos
5 years ago

Sean Bean 🙁

titianblue
titianblue
5 years ago

For how not being nasty can make a not particularly handsome man attractive, I propose Sam Neil. He might not be the prettiest man in the world but he comes across as lovely in real life, with a self-deprecating humour. He’s on Twitter and he always follows back (I had a real fangirl moment when he responded to one of my tweets about one of his films I was watching). I remember seeing an anti-podean actress talking about how, when she first went to Hollywood, Sam Neil took the trouble of getting in touch and offering help and support in the kindest avuncular way. In the predatory world of Hollywood, she was extremely grateful.

pawsjones
pawsjones
5 years ago

That’s interesting about Sam Neill, good to hear! I’ve never been a major fan or anything, but I’ve always liked him and even though I don’t necessarily think of him as hot, he’s attractive enough imo, and being a good guy certainly gets him bonus points!

I usually try to avoid too much information about celebrities I like outside of their work, as it sometimes feel like it’s just a matter of time before I’m forced to cross them off my list. Not always that good at it though, sometimes curiosity get the better of me.

Jimmy Smits, Rory McCann, Bradley James, Viggo Mortensen and Anthony Head would all break my heart if they turned into arseholes. *crosses fingers*

gilshalos
5 years ago

Oh Sam Neill can be hot. And I am glad he seems to be a good guy.

gilshalos
5 years ago

I love watching In the Mouth of Madness where he is the rational one until insanity wins, then Event Horizon. Cos you think of him as rational in it, then find out he’s the insane one.

Lea
Lea
5 years ago

Speaking of Sam Neil, has anyone else checked out Peaky Blinders? He stars in it. Netflix has 2 seasons and I have consumed them all. It’s like The Godfather, but with Cillian Murphy.

Beautiful, beautiful, Cillian Murphy.

There is a scene where Tom Hardy and Cillian Murphy are negotiating gangster stuff and I couldn’t stop smiling because Bane and Scarecrow were haggling. Also, Tom Hardy owns his role. So spoopy. He’s not just a grinning villain. He’s jolly.

I wear newsboy caps and I have a pompadour. I’m sure that has nothing at all to do with me liking that show.

WARNING: lots of graphic violence, sexual and otherwise. There are no good guys. Think Game of Thrones, but with poor people and razor blade fights.

Lea
Lea
5 years ago

Lea: I had the great pleasure of meeting Vincent Price back in 1986.

You are so lucky!

weirwoodtreehugger
5 years ago

Lea,
Peaky Blinders is on my list of things to possibly watch next on Netflix when I finally finish Supernatural. I’m not usually all that big on gangster stories but Cillian Murphy and Sam Neil are big draws and now that I find out Tom Hardy is it, that seals the deal!

Pawsjones,
Do you want to hear something really cool about Rory McCann? When he has time off from work he lives in a cottage with no electricity in rural Scotland and one of his favorite things to do is read books outside by a campfire.

Lea
Lea
5 years ago

When he has time off from work he lives in a cottage with no electricity in rural Scotland and one of his favorite things to do is read books outside by a campfire.

hawt

weirwoodtreehugger
5 years ago

That’s the kind of rugged and manly that’s sexy. As opposed to objectifying women and getting into bar room brawls.

pawsjones
pawsjones
5 years ago

Yeah, I’ve heard that about Rory, pretty neat, huh? See, I try to stay away from it, but obviously I need to improve. *hides*

Also agree about the right kind of sexy manliness. The genuine one, where it isn’t all just posturing.

contrapangloss
5 years ago

Jimmy Smits, Rory McCann, Bradley James, Viggo Mortensen and Anthony Head would all break my heart if they turned into arseholes. *crosses fingers*

So seconding those last two. I know very, very few actors by name, but if ‘Giles’ and ‘Aragorn’ were secretly arses in real life, it would be awful. I’d also like to add Richard Dean Anderson and Patrick Stewart to that list of “please-please-please be as awesome and nice as you seem to be” people.

‘Captain Picard’ and ‘Macguyver-pretending-to-be-Jack-O’Neill” is just too much of my fond childhood memories…

Fortunately, Patrick Stewart seems to keep surprising me with awesomeness, and Anderson doesn’t poke his nose much into any politics but conservation, so maybe they’re safe?