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#GamerGate's new champion is a wax replica of Patrick Bateman who thinks gamers are a bunch of dateless nerds

Actual unretouched photo of Mytheos Holt, #GamerGate's new champion
Actual unretouched photo of Mytheos Holt, #GamerGate’s new champion

Watch out, Milo Yiannopoulos, you’ve got competition! #GamerGate has a new journalistic champion — and this one, like Milo, seems to have come straight from central casting, a virtual embodiment of every snooty reactionary preppie stereotype from every bad 80s movie.

A libertarian think tanker and erstwhile journalist with the unlikely name of Mytheos Holt, this new contender has one great advantage over young Milo: as you can see in the photo above, which I have not photoshopped in any way, he appears to be made entirely of wax — which means that unless someone accidentally sets him near a heater he will last forever.

Mytheos’ first intervention in #GamerGate comes in the form of a long opinion piece in the right-wing e-rag Daily Caller that attempts to recast the GamerGater struggle as a glorious resistance campaign to an ongoing #WaronNerds by “Far-Left Feminists And The Media.” Mytheos, who looks so much like an archetypical tormenter-of-nerds, might seem an unlikely GamerGate champion, but he’s a gamer, too, and his piece has been embraced warmly by the GG masses.

Commenters in Kotaku in Action, Reddit’s most influential GamerGate hangout, describe his piece as “excellent,” “insightful,” and “incredibly well researched.”

“Time for #WarOnNerds to start trending,” writes one enthusiastic commenter. “Welcome to the next level, Mytheos,” adds another, “we’re the only people in the history of ever to beat Social Justice, and this train has no brakes.”

The enthusiasm for the article might at first seem a little strange, given that Mytheos starts out by comparing GamerGaters to …  a British teenager who earlier this year stabbed some girls in the face:

On February 11, 2014, the Daily Mail reported on the case of 19-year-old Ryan Walker, a thin, bespectacled “wimp” by reputation who, upon being bullied one too many times by some neighborhood girls, attacked them furiously, stabbing one in the face and bashing the other’s head against the pavement. …

And so it was that half a year before it began, #Gamergate was explained.

But the rest of Mytheos’ post reaffirms most of the GamerGate mythos: that it is a fight against corruption, not a campaign terrorizing outspoken women in gaming, and that it actively roots out the harassers in its midst. Above all, Mytheos argues that GamerGate, however rough it might be around the edges, is a justified rebellion against the Social Justice Warrior oppressors.

Mytheos’ indictment of the (alleged) evil leftist nerd-tormenters is as histrionic, and as utterly divorced from reality, as any GamerGate manifesto pasted into a bad infographic:

Along with their furious denunciations of the gaming press, the movement also appears to be fighting a new culture war — one against a new, radical and dangerously illiberal left which marinates in a hideous quagmire of resentment, smugness, vacuousness and contempt for free discussion. This movement prefers the vile ochlocracy of the Twitter mob … celebrates the Maoist public shaming of doxxing, and seems incapable of distinguishing between a .gif and an argument.

In case you’re wondering, ochlocracy means “government by mob.” It pays to increase your word power!

Make no mistake, when it comes to #Gamergate, both the SJWs and the gaming press are facing a backlash that is not only thoroughly warranted, but of their own making. …

America’s nerds are fighting back against what they rightly see as ages of persecution and dismissal by an extreme left wing fringe that they believe has co-opted the very press they used to trust and used it as a weapon of oppression despite claiming to speak for the oppressed. …

Their case is historically next-to-impossible to dispute.

Well, at least until Mytheos actually tries to make such a case. His alleged proof of the ongoing oppression of nerds by the SJW?

  1. TotalBiscuit, YouTube blabber and “moderate” GamerGater, has been “flamed” by GamerGate critics
  2. Sam Biddle of Gawker made a couple of joking Tweets declaring that “Nerds should be constantly degraded and shamed into submission.”
  3. Aaron Sorkin once described the dudes of Silicon Valley as “a very angry and deeply misogynistic group of people. These aren’t the cuddly nerds we made movies about in the 80′s.”
  4. The Nice Guys of OKCupid blog

Mytheos leans pretty hard on #4,  devoting more time and energy to railing against the “feminist cruelty” of the Nice Guys of OkCupid blog (and those who were amused by it) than he does to the alleged “journalistic corruption” that is supposedly the real reason for GamerGate.

Indeed, aside from mentioning Biddle’s Tweets and taking a few swipes at Valleywag, the Silicon Valley blog that Biddle used to work at, Mytheos offers no real critique of journalistic corruption at all. NiceGuys of OkCupid, by contrast, gets more than 600 words, as Mytheos stands up (sort of) for the honor of a group he describes as

dumpy, white, awkward looking men whose primary crime in their profiles was expressing either insufficiently feminist viewpoints … or simply of being sad or angry about their lack of romantic options.

Yep. Mytheos does indeed seems to be suggesting that GamerGate is fundamentally driven by the resentment of “dumpy” white dudes who can’t get a date.

In a lot of ways, his argument is a cruder, and crueller, version of an argument I made about Men’s Rights Activists a few weeks back. In my post, I asked if

the rage that drives so many MRAs come from the same dark place in the psyche as the rage that so many romantically and sexually rejected feel towards their exes? …

Think of the fury many divorced MRAs feel towards their exes and women at large. Think of the self-pitying rage of “nice guys” MRAs in their teens and twenties who feel they’ve been unfairly “friendzoned” by stuck-up women. …

The self-righteous rage of the rejected is a dangerous thing. It’s dangerous when it’s directed at individual women. And it’s dangerous when it’s directed at women at large.

The continuing debacle that is GamerGate, which after all was called into existence by one dude’s long diatribe against the alleged evils of his ex-girlfriend, seems to reinforce this point every single day.

It’s just strange to see a supporter of GamerGate making a similar, if more simplistic, case — and being applauded for it by the very guys he describes so patronizingly as angry dateless “losers.”

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Falconer
6 years ago

@FifthInterval:

the persuasive charms of Jack Chick

I will admit, there’s a bit of DIY zine charm to the Chick Tracts, but what benefits a man, to charm with form, yet horrify with content?

NickNameNick
NickNameNick
6 years ago

It doesn’t matter what you say you are, it matters what you do. And when you’re busy bashing people for mildly criticizing a shirt while saying absolutely no peep on death threats, well…

It’s certainly telling. Particularly because you are outraged at…other people being outraged…

A lot of Sarkeesian “critics” and GGers really love to deflect the issue of death threats and harassment, acting as if those aren’t a big deal, and make it about how others are making them “feel bad.”

Well, what the fuck did you expect?! When you do things like harass and doxx others, especially women (one being accused of sleeping her way “to the top”), or justify them – of course people are going to call out your shit and probably call you mean names. That’s what happens with that whole “free speech” thing.

It’s kind of hard for me to give a shit about someone’s feelings when they don’t care enough to consider how victims of harassment or doxxing feel.

Falconer
6 years ago

*boogies ’cause tonight I play two more hours of I6 Castle Ravenloft*

It’d be more, but, you know…

http://i.imgur.com/kWx7ebF.jpg

and

http://i.imgur.com/sfd0URG.jpg

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
6 years ago

They are oddly compelling, I can see how people predisposed to think that Satan lurks in every corner might find them convincing. Think of it as a gift for storytelling wasted on stories that make no sense at all.

vaiyt
6 years ago

we’re the only people in the history of ever to beat Social Justice,

Because being against social justice is such a righteous cause!

Gotta love how GibberGrubbers are still revving the triumphant tone engines after even their meager “accomplishments” (the ad pulling) got rolled back. They think they’re going to beat social justice by personally attacking a handful of indie developers and journalists? Oh golly. I thought we were dealing with an all-powerful conspiracy here.

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
6 years ago

Aw, chunky little kid legs are so cute, I always want to squeeze them. Why does he have his trouser leg rolled up, though?

Falconer
6 years ago

I’m a little disappointed that this is a parody, at first I thought Chick was playing with fire and Marvel’s legal department:

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii295/jqpublique/ChickFF01-701.jpg

vaiyt
6 years ago

Like, the kid I played D&D with who was bullied all the time, it didn’t seem to matter what he did or took an interest in, other kids would give him shit about it. If he borrowed a book from the library suddenly that was the most mockable book ever, a perfectly ordinary pair of sneakers would become “lol look at his nerdy shoes”, they even made fun of the way he walked. I don’t think it would have mattered what he was into, they’d have found a reason to use it against him.

This story hits way closer to home than I’d wish.

Falconer
6 years ago

@cassandrakitty: I hadn’t noticed that! We just got out of the car when I took those pictures, I guess it got pushed up against the car seat, or maybe when I picked him up.

Those flowers are right outside their nursery school, and since it got down to near 20 here last night I’m worried that they died.

… Anybody got cloudiah’s email?

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
6 years ago

I thought you were training him to be a Mason! Either that or he’s curious about the wonders of frostbite, because it looks damn cold there.

Falconer
6 years ago

I think we were a bit overdressed, but the low that morning had been about 34.

And nah, I’m training him to cosplay as a Regency toff, with pantaloons and leggings.

Pocket Nerd
6 years ago
Reply to  temporalstorm

Thus Spake Zaratemporalstorm:

I think next time a female scientist is interviewed she should put on a “KILL ALL MEN” t-shirt just to force MRA’s to defend her since it’s so similar to this case.

Butbutbut male genocide is TOTALLY A REAL THING that some woman, somewhere, sometime, ACTUALLY ADVOCATED, maybe probably it’s entirely possible! So mocking it just demonstrates how misandrist modern feminist-dominated society is! Also, death professions! Male disposability! WHY ISN’T THERE A PROSTATE CANCER AWARENESS MONTH? ::ragesplode::

Bina
Bina
6 years ago

Is he wearing shoulder pads in that photo? Are we sure he isn’t three kids under a big trench coat? It would explain a lot.

Shoulder pads? Check. I haven’t seen ones that big since, oh, about 1990 or so. And that was when WOMEN used to wear them. I hated those with a passion, and the manufacturers were putting them into everything — blazers, coats, even blouses and sweaters. You’d end up wearing two, three or four layers of them easily. I used to rip them out. I probably still have a bag of ’em hidden in the sewing-room closet somewhere.

And what the fuck is it with all these right-wing pseudo-journos and their silly costumes, anyway? Used to be just Tucker Carlson with his stupid little bowtie; I used to wish someone would wind it up and make him buzz around the room like a toy airplane. Someone must have told him he looked like a twit, because he’s since traded it for normal ties. Unfortunately, his “reporting” is still fact-free and jejune as hell. Then it was James Fucking O’Keefe and his “black” pimp drag. He’s still at it, apparently, although he swapped the ratty fur coat for a fake ‘stache so he would look 40ish. And now it’s this guy, who’s obviously all empty suit and unlit cigar. I guess it’s all that these guys deserve anyway, since they probably voted for Dubya (All Hat, No Cattle) Bush. Or their daddies did, more like it. And they themselves think that putting on a trilby (and calling it a fedora) will magically turn them into Humphrey Bogart.

Falconer
6 years ago

Or hose, for that matter.

Myriad
Myriad
6 years ago

@Falconer Such littles sweeties.

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
6 years ago

Well, better that little kids are a bit warm than too cold, but they will tend to try to undress themselves if they feel like they have too many layers on.

Falconer
6 years ago

@Bina: Oh god, I haven’t thought about Bow Tie Boy or James Fucking O’Keefe in ages. Last I heard, J. F. O’Keefe was legit on the receiving end of attempted rape charges.

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
6 years ago

@ Bina

Did you ever cut the shoulder pads out of things? I did with cheap stuff that I knew my mom wouldn’t be too angry if I ruined.

Once that trend died I think they repurposed the exact same foamy inserts for use as the push up part of push-up bras.

Viscaria
Viscaria
6 years ago

@randomavatar

we’re the only people in the history of ever to beat Social Justice, and this train has no brakes.

It never fails to amuse me how anyone with an ounce of self awareness or even just sense can go on about SJWs to start with and not realise how mind-numbingly idiotic they’re being.

I laughed when I read that sentence in the op. “Take that, justice!” is something No Heart, the Care Bears villain, might say.

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
6 years ago

It does kind of seem like the following sentence should have been “Mwah hah hah”.

Bina
Bina
6 years ago

Did you ever cut the shoulder pads out of things? I did with cheap stuff that I knew my mom wouldn’t be too angry if I ruined.

Oh, loads of times. I left them in the jackets and coats because (a) those were structured and (b) the padding was between the shell and the lining in most cases, but took them out of blouses and sweaters all the time. Usually they were just tacked in with a few stitches at either end, so all it took was a couple of snips of the embroidery scissors. Some were actually sewn to the shoulder seams, though, and took a seam ripper to get out. My mom never liked them either, so she was totally behind me on that one. As long as there was no damage to the outside of the garment, getting rid of them was never a problem.

And LOL, yup, the WonderBra came along right in time to use up all the foam rubber that would otherwise have gone to waste.

Last I heard, J. F. O’Keefe was legit on the receiving end of attempted rape charges.

Ah yes, the dildo-boat incident. His fiendish plan was foiled because the woman he was trying to “seduce” didn’t take the bait. He did get fined, though.

Falconer
6 years ago

Well, they’re right about the “this train has no brakes” part.

Falconer
6 years ago

@Bina, actually I read an account where he was working with someone on some project, set up a meet in a house (converted out of a barn, don’t know why that stuck with me), and tried to pressure her into sex. I can’t recall if he tried to drug her or not, but I think she got away, or he left in a huff.

Bina
Bina
6 years ago

Well, they’re right about the “this train has no brakes” part.

Yup. Unfortunately it’s filled with toxic sludge. And as Alpha pointed out at the very beginning of the thread, it keeps ramming into its own caboose.

(Funny thing, though…here in Canada, at any rate, cabooses have become vanishingly rare. I live near both the CN and CP tracks, and have hardly ever seen any. Trains are getting bigger, but their crews seem to have shrunk.)

Falconer
6 years ago

Her name was Nadia Naffe, she worked with him on the dildo-boat incident, then he roofied her and abandoned her in a renovated barn on his parents’ property.

Here’s a typically-breathless Wonkette piece about it.

Falconer
6 years ago

Yeah, here in the northern Southern United Snakes, the only trains I see are hauling bulk cargo, and the only caboose I see regularly is parked outside the Children’s Museum in Oak Ridge.

thebewilderness
thebewilderness
6 years ago

His most recent faux scandal was trying to get poll workers on the record cheating. He failed but he did get some vidya showing people doing perfectly legal things he is pretending are crimes.. This was just last month.

skiriki
6 years ago

@titianblue

What is it with these guys and cigars? *Cranes neck to see if she can spot a skull in the background*

I knoooooooooooooooooooooooooow. I came here to post this same exact question! WTH!?

Bina
Bina
6 years ago

Her name was Nadia Naffe, she worked with him on the dildo-boat incident, then he roofied her and abandoned her in a renovated barn on his parents’ property.

Zoiks! I hadn’t heard about that one. He really is cruising for a conviction, and one of these days he’s gonna get it.

In the meantime, women would be well advised NEVER to work with him. He is at least as creepy as Jian Ghomeshi, and somewhat better at covering his ass.

FifthInterval
6 years ago

I will admit, there’s a bit of DIY zine charm to the Chick Tracts, but what benefits a man, to charm with form, yet horrify with content?

Me, I try to charm through massive amounts of sarcasm. 😉 That aside, I think that Chick is best (read: only possibly) appreciated with the kind of irony that’s made Ed Wood Jr. an immortal film icon, only nowhere near as lovably harmless. I find Chick’s stuff to be a weird combination of quaint schoolmarm and LSD-inspired bonkers in terms of style, but his message of smug, hate-filled lying is just too offensive to make me consider the style elements innocuous enough to fully enjoy as unintentional art.

I think I started playing D&D in elementary school in 1976 after having bought the box set at a yard sale and diving into it with both feet. My parents were more concerned along Tom-Hanks-In-Mazes-and-Monsters lines than my Grandmom’s OMG-Satan-Worship concerns. I definitely take Cassandra’s point that the nerdy interests themselves weren’t the source of the bullying, but it certainly included explicit associations to them, associations I wasn’t the one making. That was simply my experience, as it happened. But the whole reason I brought it all up was to make the point that none of that shit matters now. I’m not 8 anymore. Neither are GGers, most of them anyway – not that you’d know it.

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
6 years ago

Given their obsession with boobs and the failure of real women to offer them up on command I think they’re more stuck in high school than in elementary school.

Puddleglum
6 years ago

Shoulder pads? Check. I haven’t seen ones that big since, oh, about 1990 or so. And that was when WOMEN used to wear them. I hated those with a passion, and the manufacturers were putting them into everything — blazers, coats, even blouses and sweaters. You’d end up wearing two, three or four layers of them easily. I used to rip them out. I probably still have a bag of ‘em hidden in the sewing-room closet somewhere.

Good use for shoulder pads – they make awesome animal ears when attached to headbands. I’m fairly sure I used them for a makeshift costume one year…

mythago
6 years ago

@cassandrakitty: are you serious? You’re saying that because you and your one friend there didn’t get bullied for JUST playing D&D, clearly there was something wrong with the kids who got bullied that brought it on themselves, like being “socially awkward”. Which I can’t tell if you mean that as a dogwhistle for ASDs or if we’re now pretending that “socially awkward” is other than a class feature of being a teenager. Regardless, “well it never happened to me that way so if it happened to you, you invited it somehow” arguments are shit regardless of where you spray them.

The problem is not that these jerks got bullied. It’s that they decided being bullied was proof of their special snowflake status as Better Than Everyone and that they coped by BECOMING BULLIES. They simply decided, in their minds, that the treatment they received would have been perfectly fine as long as they were the ones on the giving end. And they point to their own bullying as moral justification for it.

Puddleglum
6 years ago

You’re saying that because you and your one friend there didn’t get bullied for JUST playing D&D, clearly there was something wrong with the kids who got bullied that brought it on themselves, like being “socially awkward”

Please point out where she said this because otherwise your rage spew is way out of line. She never said that his awkwardness justified the bullying.

Inez Milholland
Inez Milholland
6 years ago

American Psycho is one of my favorite movies — yes, I know, lots of gendered violence, BUT! It was adapted, brilliantly, by two women (director Mary Harron and screenwriter Guinevere Turner) into a scathing comedy of manners directed squarely at the “me” generation of late boomers in the 1980’s. It’s awesome and I quote it like mad. Hence…

https://imgflip.com/i/e6l4q

and

https://imgflip.com/i/e6lg8

Bina
Bina
6 years ago

Good use for shoulder pads – they make awesome animal ears when attached to headbands. I’m fairly sure I used them for a makeshift costume one year…

Or hats! Are furry plushie hats still a thing, or is that all over now?

weirwoodtreehugger
6 years ago

Or she was saying that bullies pick on who they perceive as an easy target. Which is true. That’s not the fault of the bullying victim or anything, but that’s how bullies operate.

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
6 years ago

Has mythago’s reading comprehension always been this poor?

Sir Bodsworth Rugglesby III
Sir Bodsworth Rugglesby III
6 years ago

WordPress ate my post, probably because too many links so

https://imgflip.com/i/e6lit

and

https://imgflip.com/i/e6kac

Sir Bodsworth Rugglesby III
Sir Bodsworth Rugglesby III
6 years ago

Also

https://imgflip.com/i/e6l5t

and

https://imgflip.com/i/e6l9l

How’s everyone been? I’m just over uni assignments, crawling out of my hole and blinking in the sunlight

Horace Feng
Horace Feng
6 years ago
Kakanian
Kakanian
6 years ago

@b.tom.darga

Yes, but GG started out with the intent to a) spam 4chan with the story of how a woman had sex with a dude and not with another dude and b) harass her for it. Read the logs. It’s in their own logs.

Meanwhile SJW started out with the intent to… make the internet a less awful place for everybody…?

CLEARLY both sides in this one are equal and we should totally hear them out as such. Clearly.

Mewens
Mewens
6 years ago

I don’t follow the Twitters, as it were, but has there been any kind of movement to flood #NotYourShield with replies such as, “I’m a white, ciscet, middle-aged man with ‘nerdy’ hobbies, and I am #NotYourShield, #GamerGate.”

Pref with egg avatars on fresh accounts, of course, although I’d accept stock photos of obese men with headphones greedily eating Doritos – or reworked Vivian James faces.

The inevitable rage meltdown would be inspiring, I wager.

Cyberwulf
Cyberwulf
6 years ago

@cassandrakitty:

Whatever the reason was that other kids didn’t like you, it was never about the geeky interests.

Replace “other kids” with “girls” and you’ve got the reason why bitter geek/gamer boys are so invested in the idea of fake geek/gamer girls, and why they fiercely audit any woman who claims to be a geek or gamer, looking for signs she’s faking it.

It’s very sad in a way, because if you’re an awkward, geeky teenage boy who goes through adolescence without ever having a girlfriend (and therefore feeling like a loser), it must be hugely comforting to be able to say, “well it’s because I like sci-fi and videogames, and girls don’t like that stuff, that’s why they’re not interested in me”. No wonder they flip their shit when they encounter women who like geeky stuff for its own sake. How dare women nerd out over Star Trek and stay up till 4am playing videogames! That means the hobby was never the problem. That means that there are way more variables involved in determining whether or not Joe Everynerd gets a girlfriend, and some of those are completely out of his control. That’s far too scary to contemplate – so b***h must be faking it.

Puddleglum
6 years ago

@Sir Bodsworth Rugglesby III, the buttered toast one was fabulous!!!

girlscientist
girlscientist
6 years ago

@cassandrakitty: could you please drop it with the victim-blaming? As someone who got bullied extensively, I can tell you this: the only reason kids get bullied is because they have the misfortune of being stuck with bullies and they can’t leave. Also: being bullied is not good for your social skills. It’s not that kids get bullied because they’re socially awkward, but they lose their confidence and become socially awkward because they get bullied.
I’m happy for you that you didn’t get bullied in school. But kindly STFU about your theories about bullying, because you have no idea what you’re talking about, and your comments are really triggering.

Randomavatar
Randomavatar
6 years ago

Can I just say this about GG

I think Jimmy Wales is a sheer genius because in no less than a tweet he has proven to GG how ridiculous a leaderless hashtag movement is at any semblance of organisation and direction, thus undermining any argument of collective good or division of true and false scotsmen behind a single banner.

In a TWEET, under 140 characters and that isn’t even all of it.

If that pure schadenfreude wasn’t enough, his action was effectively trolling the internet’s biggest collection of asshurt trolls. Oh delicious irony! sweet sweet irony!

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
6 years ago

@ Cyberwulf

Yeah, it’s easy enough to see where both the desire to blame this one simple thing for everything bad that happened to you or everything you wanted to happen that didn’t, but the problem is that if you do that and are then confronted with something that proves you were wrong (women who play games 10 hours a day, female sci-fi authors, men who share your hobby who superficially look like exactly the kind of jocks who you always assumed hated you because you were into gaming and sci-fi), how do you process that? For a lot of people the answer seems to be that you don’t, you just try to make the thing that’s challenging that comforting belief go away, sometimes by sending it death threats on Twitter.

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
6 years ago

I was bullied for a while when I first went to boarding school. It was because my family was originally working class, and most of the kids around me were upper class. Maybe try taking your own advice and not assuming that you know someone else’s life story?

brooked
6 years ago

@Sir Rugglesby

All your Mythy memes are very strong but the cigar one is the real winner.