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Woman slams sexist shirt; Twitter douchebags tell her to kill herself. Worst offender? A contributor to A Voice for Men

No girls allowed?
No girls allowed?

Very cool: We humans have landed a space probe on a goddamned comet!

Not cool:  when one European Space Agency dude gave an interview about the landing, he was wearing a shirt festooned with cheesecake images of scantily clad women.

Even less cool: when Atlantic magazine science writer Rose Eveleth pointed out that this choice of attire doesn’t exactly broadcast the message that women (other than scantily clad ones) are welcome in STEM, she received a torrent of abuse from angry Twitter dudes, including requests for her to kill herself.

The cherry atop this crap sundae? The nastiest Twitterer of the bunch, who not only went after Eveleth but her defenders as well, is a regular contributor to A Voice for Men.

The whole thing started off with a couple of tweets from Eveleth about the shirt. Here’s one of them:

https://twitter.com/roseveleth/status/532538957490561024

After this, the deluge:shirt5 shirt4 shirt3 shirt2 shirt1And those are just some of the harassing tweets Eveleth retweeted. (I’ve highlighted the explicit death wishes for your convenience.)

You’ll notice that one of the death wishes (“Please kill yourself”) comes from a fellow named Christopher Cantwell.

If you take a look at his Twitter profile, you’ll see that this self-described “Anarchist, Atheist, Asshole” and Bitcoin fan had similar advice for a number of others who found the shirt troubling.

To wit:

cant1 cant2 cant3 cant4 cant6 cant7

Cantwell has also been sharing some of his charming thoughts about women in STEM.

cant8 cant9

So how does A Voice for Men respond to this sort of behavior by one of their regular contributors? They repost his blog entry on the, er, controversy, deriding concerns about the shirt as “feminist hysteria” and arguing that the real reason more women aren’t in STEM fields is that, well, they’re just not as smart as he is.

No, really:

The reason you don’t see women in highly technical fields nearly as often as you see men is not because of sexism. It certainly isn’t because of Matt Taylor’s shirt. You can’t even blame this on education anymore, since more women attend college than men. The issue at hand is one of simple aptitude and the choices people make as a result of that aptitude.

You gals remember choices, right? I seem to recall you caring about those things once upon a time.

If you think about it, this makes a lot of sense. A society needs leaders and followers. In men, we see very high IQs figuring things out and working out these complex ideas. They document them in easy-to-understand ways for those of lesser intelligence in society and make technology available to all of us. We also see these low IQs, which are more suited to, say, mining the resources that this technology requires and operating the machines the geniuses designed. Women, traditionally carrying the role of raising children and supporting the men who designed and operated the machinery, needed to be somewhere in the middle. They couldn’t well manage the many complex tasks their role in society required of them without being smarter than the worker drones, but there wasn’t any need for them to be super geniuses who could land spacecraft on comets hundreds of millions of miles away either. …

For those of us at the upper end of the IQ spectrum, we are sentenced to a lifetime of watching stupidity like this run rampant. We will watch in horror for all of eternity as idiots dominate the headlines with their hysteria, responsibility avoidance, and demands for state privilege disguised as “equality.” We’ll see brilliant men like Matt Taylor smeared as being the worst type of bigot, simply because he’s smarter than the people who accuse him.

Yeah, it’s hard to imagine why anyone would complain about sexism in STEM.

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grumpyoldnurse
grumpyoldnurse
10 years ago

@ kittehserf – Snerk. Whatever he’s saying about anarchists doesn’t really seem to come across in the blog.

@ kirbywarp – It looked like he dropped the blog a long time ago (last post was 2013 IIRC). Spam comments. I think I choked on my tongue. Is he trying to tell us something?

kittehserf - MOD
kittehserf - MOD
10 years ago

grumpyoldnurse – par for the course that trolls can’t even express themselves on their own blogs!

emilygoddess - MOD
emilygoddess - MOD
10 years ago

I’m pretty sure AVFM moderates comments too. If trolly is an AVFM contributor, accusing David of intellectual dishonesty is a bit of a pot-vs-kettle situation (only the kettle isn’t actually black in this case).

grumpyoldnurse
grumpyoldnurse
10 years ago

Doesn’t everyone moderate the comments, to some degree? I believe in free speech as a given, but if you don’t have someone minding the gates, you just get overwhelmed with the screaming and trolling and no actual discussion (or even serious, good snark) can take place. Crowded theatre and screaming ‘fire’ sort of thing.

kittehserf - MOD
kittehserf - MOD
10 years ago

Too right AVfM moderates. Pauly’s a sight quicker to ban anyone than David is. Here, you have to reach the point of being abusive or extraordinarily creepy; there, you have only to be insufficiently misogynistic.

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
10 years ago

I will never stop laughing at “search engine vandalism”, especially in a context where death threats are apparently just fine.

brooked
brooked
10 years ago

I’d love to respond to this blog post, but you use donotlink for all your links, which is search engine vandalism. I can’t support that kind of behavior.

Don’t get him started on the war on democracy that is Ad Blocker, that really gets his juices flowing.

kittehserf - MOD
kittehserf - MOD
10 years ago
katz
10 years ago

Sooo…when we all Go Galt and government is abolished, who will prevent search engine vandalism?

M. the Social Justice Ranger
M. the Social Justice Ranger
10 years ago

I’d love to respond to this blog post, but you use donotlink for all your links, which is search engine vandalism. I can’t support that kind of behavior.

Huh. I’ve heard morons say that using AdBlock is copyright infringement and illegal piracy, but this is a new one to me. So, points for creativity, I guess?

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
10 years ago

I’m confused. How does preventing people from seeing things (by using AdBlock) infringe on their copyright?

kittehserf - MOD
kittehserf - MOD
10 years ago

Sounds like freezepeach again, doesn’t it – if I block ads I’m censoring teh poor ad dudes’ right to blather their shit everywhere they want to.

Oh the joy of 1) using adblock everywhere and 2) not being in the US with this FUCKING BORING obsession and complete misunderstanding of what the whole damn thing about free speech means.

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
10 years ago

How dare you prevent me from peeing on your rug when I paid good money for the beer that made it possible for me to do so! Censorship! Communism!

kittehserf - MOD
kittehserf - MOD
10 years ago

Fasco-Communists!!

grumpycatisagirl
10 years ago

Now if I click on the donotlink post to his blog I get a sort of hilarious rant that I was probably sent there by search engine vandals.

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
10 years ago

I’ll have him know that we are search engine graffiti artists.

M. the Social Justice Ranger
M. the Social Justice Ranger
10 years ago

I’m confused. How does preventing people from seeing things (by using AdBlock) infringe on their copyright?

To be honest, I sort of tune out every time I bump into an “ADBLOCK = HITLER” type, but it has something to do with “If you visit a site, you agree to their TOS, and by using AdBlock you’re breaking their TOS and [who fucking knows].” Pretty sure none of them know what copyright infringement actually is. =P

M. the Social Justice Ranger
M. the Social Justice Ranger
10 years ago

… And “ADBLOCK = HITLER” isn’t an exaggeration or me minimising WWII or anything. I’ve literally been called Hitler for blocking ads. People confuse me.

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
10 years ago

You now when you were a kid and your mum said “don’t make that face or it’ll freeze that way”? Between AdBlock is censorship and the Gamergate thread in which Christina Hoff Sommers is expressing feminist ideas I’m starting to worry that she may have been right. I don’t want permanent WTF face, as it may offend.

Buttercup Q. Skullpants
Buttercup Q. Skullpants
10 years ago

No no, search engine vandalism is where you literally write on the internet.

“Here I sit broken hearted,
Googled ‘shit’ and got redirected to your clickbait blog and now I’m forever scarred-ed.”

weirwoodtreehugger
10 years ago

So, now do not link goes on the list of things that are misandry. It keeps good company with scented candles, hard chairs, short hair, and earbuds.

pallygirl
pallygirl
10 years ago

You lot have it all wrong, sheesh.

Let me searchenginesplain.

Search engine vandalism is when you remove all alternative options from a user’s login, so they are forced to use Bing.

Yes, I am so evil I thought that up all by myself.

kittehserf - MOD
kittehserf - MOD
10 years ago

That is extremely evil, pallygirl.

Though not as evil as being forced to use Internet Explorer with ninemsm as your homepage.

pallygirl
pallygirl
10 years ago

I was stroking my chin absentmindedly when I was reading your comment.

Rodney Weidemann
9 years ago

Jeez, when I look at the so-called ‘feminist’ comments on the shirt (which seemed pretty measured, by my reckoning – hysteria certainly wasn’t a word that described it), and compare them to the vitriol spewed by those carrying the Y chromosome in response, it makes me utterly ashamed and embarrassed to be a man!!

BTW, Matt – I know you’re a super-brainy geek (and we all know geeks love those kinds of shirts and things) but honestly mate, when you’re giving probably the most important press conference of your life, you (and your marketing and PR people) really ought to think one step further than ‘hey cool, naked chicks’….

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