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Woman slams sexist shirt; Twitter douchebags tell her to kill herself. Worst offender? A contributor to A Voice for Men

No girls allowed?
No girls allowed?

Very cool: We humans have landed a space probe on a goddamned comet!

Not cool:  when one European Space Agency dude gave an interview about the landing, he was wearing a shirt festooned with cheesecake images of scantily clad women.

Even less cool: when Atlantic magazine science writer Rose Eveleth pointed out that this choice of attire doesn’t exactly broadcast the message that women (other than scantily clad ones) are welcome in STEM, she received a torrent of abuse from angry Twitter dudes, including requests for her to kill herself.

The cherry atop this crap sundae? The nastiest Twitterer of the bunch, who not only went after Eveleth but her defenders as well, is a regular contributor to A Voice for Men.

The whole thing started off with a couple of tweets from Eveleth about the shirt. Here’s one of them:

https://twitter.com/roseveleth/status/532538957490561024

After this, the deluge:shirt5 shirt4 shirt3 shirt2 shirt1And those are just some of the harassing tweets Eveleth retweeted. (I’ve highlighted the explicit death wishes for your convenience.)

You’ll notice that one of the death wishes (“Please kill yourself”) comes from a fellow named Christopher Cantwell.

If you take a look at his Twitter profile, you’ll see that this self-described “Anarchist, Atheist, Asshole” and Bitcoin fan had similar advice for a number of others who found the shirt troubling.

To wit:

cant1 cant2 cant3 cant4 cant6 cant7

Cantwell has also been sharing some of his charming thoughts about women in STEM.

cant8 cant9

So how does A Voice for Men respond to this sort of behavior by one of their regular contributors? They repost his blog entry on the, er, controversy, deriding concerns about the shirt as “feminist hysteria” and arguing that the real reason more women aren’t in STEM fields is that, well, they’re just not as smart as he is.

No, really:

The reason you don’t see women in highly technical fields nearly as often as you see men is not because of sexism. It certainly isn’t because of Matt Taylor’s shirt. You can’t even blame this on education anymore, since more women attend college than men. The issue at hand is one of simple aptitude and the choices people make as a result of that aptitude.

You gals remember choices, right? I seem to recall you caring about those things once upon a time.

If you think about it, this makes a lot of sense. A society needs leaders and followers. In men, we see very high IQs figuring things out and working out these complex ideas. They document them in easy-to-understand ways for those of lesser intelligence in society and make technology available to all of us. We also see these low IQs, which are more suited to, say, mining the resources that this technology requires and operating the machines the geniuses designed. Women, traditionally carrying the role of raising children and supporting the men who designed and operated the machinery, needed to be somewhere in the middle. They couldn’t well manage the many complex tasks their role in society required of them without being smarter than the worker drones, but there wasn’t any need for them to be super geniuses who could land spacecraft on comets hundreds of millions of miles away either. …

For those of us at the upper end of the IQ spectrum, we are sentenced to a lifetime of watching stupidity like this run rampant. We will watch in horror for all of eternity as idiots dominate the headlines with their hysteria, responsibility avoidance, and demands for state privilege disguised as “equality.” We’ll see brilliant men like Matt Taylor smeared as being the worst type of bigot, simply because he’s smarter than the people who accuse him.

Yeah, it’s hard to imagine why anyone would complain about sexism in STEM.

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andrea harris
10 years ago

OMG I’d missed he was a bitcoin fan, that’s hilarious. Is there anything stupid these dudes aren’t into?

Faint Praise
Faint Praise
10 years ago

Be sure to use WAM’s reporting tool. It’s been bringing the thunder, and MRAs/AVfM (and GamerGate, same diff) are already quite upset that their harassment-candy is being taken away.

https://womenactionmedia.wufoo.com/forms/wam-twitter-harassment-reporting-tool/

pallygirl
pallygirl
10 years ago

From Can’twell (and why yes, I prefer my spelling of his surname):

For those of us at the upper end of the IQ spectrum

Oh dude, so you got a high score from the FB quiz where everyone scores over 130.

Or did you go one better and not even bother with any test, but just self-categorise yourself into that section of IQ scores?

kittehserf - MOD
10 years ago

The splainy misogynist fuckwit brigade is out in strength on Pharyngula’s post about this skeevy creep, too.

Mewens
Mewens
10 years ago

“Remember, I’m good with numbers, so my ideas about genitals are obviously superior.” Got it.

In other news: Those vinyl suits in the photo are three kinds of amazing.

sparky
sparky
10 years ago

For those of us at the upper end of the IQ spectrum, we are sentenced to a lifetime of watching stupidity like this run rampant. We will watch in horror for all of eternity as idiots dominate the headlines with their hysteria, responsibility avoidance, and demands for state privilege disguised as “equality.”

Because repeatedly telling someone you disagree with to kill themselves is how people “at the upper end of the IQ spectrum” argue their points. Manly STEM logic!

The second sentence there is so full of unintended irony I feel like my brain just exploded.

pallygirl
pallygirl
10 years ago

I didn’t notice the positioning of the woman in black depicted on his right sleeve before I went there to have a look, kitteh.

Some of their bloody body positions are extremely sexualised, along with the clothes.

sparky
sparky
10 years ago

And aren’t these the same folks who got all up in arms when Jessica Valenti posted a picture of herself in a “I bathe in male tears” shirt on Twitter?

Mewens
Mewens
10 years ago

OH man. When I was complimenting the “vinyl suits in the photo,” I meant the ones worn by the wee space explorers at the top of the post, not the ones on this space-head bloke’s shirt. Gah.

Nequam
Nequam
10 years ago

That is a tacky-ass shirt. I was expecting it to be pulp-style space babes, but that’s some straight-up Escher Girls shit.

anonny
anonny
10 years ago

Poor schmuck. He doesn’t have sex in real life. He’s had a professional triumph in real life. But no woman in sight. The knight at the end is supposed to kiss the girl, but the girl doesn’t appear. So he wears a decorated Tshirt.Have compassion.

Bina
10 years ago

http://weknowmemes.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/calm-your-tits-no.jpg

Why is it always the most rar-rar-ragey dudes who are forever telling WOMEN to calm down…and doing it in thousands and thousands of motherfucking words?

MaudeLL
10 years ago

@sparky
Yes, but in the case of Valenti, the message on the T-shirt was obviously not a joke; she really does have a male tear water system in her home.
Taylor, OTOH, is clearly a hipster with a special love for ironic/funny t-shirts!

Sorry, I was just using manly-mhra-logic.

davidknewton
davidknewton
10 years ago

What is this trend of “Haha, I’m an asshole, that’s just how I am” recently? Thanks for notifying me – I’ll make sure to avoid you.

ted the fed
ted the fed
10 years ago

I wonder if this guy even knows how devoutly this stupid theory was smacked down a century ago: http://psychclassics.asu.edu/Hollingworth/sexdiffs.htm

A key quote: “The first discussion of the comparative variability of the sexes bore on anatomical traits, and began about a century ago. The anatomist Meckel concluded on pathological grounds that the human female showed greater variability than the human male, “and he thought that since man is the superior animal and variation a sign of inferiority, the conclusion was justified.” Later, when anatomists and naturalists arrived at the conclusion that the male is more variable, variability came to be regarded as an advantage, a characteristic according the greatest hope for progress, and finally as the probable explanation of the fact that all the world’s greatest deeds of intellect have been the deeds of men.”

acrannymint
10 years ago

I have a BA in physics, a BS in Electrical Engineering and a MS in Computer Science. One of my college roommates has a PHD and is well known in the field of Human Genome Studies, Either one of us (but she could more damage) could take these guys

Jay Elmore
10 years ago

OMG I’d missed he was a bitcoin fan, that’s hilarious. Is there anything stupid these dudes aren’t into?

How dare you insult the good name of their Magic Internet Money! Don’t you know that when society collapses and all of the banks go belly up, the one currency that people will be able to agree on is the one that requires computers and the internet to work?

acrannymint
10 years ago

Disclosure the schools were Franklin and Marshall (physics – not exactly a heavy weight science school if you were not pre-med), Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute (EE – very much a heavy weight school) and Johns Hopkins University.

davidknewton
davidknewton
10 years ago

I’ll be honest, actually – when I first vaguely heard about the shirt, I thought that it was being made a bit of a bigger deal than it deserved – it was just a shirt, the man likes women and corsets and stuff but he definitely made a poor choice thinking it was okay to wear it on television. But now I see the tweet that started it all… that really didn’t make a big deal of it! It was the responses were completely disproportionate – and a reaction to the prevailing attitude shown by those feels entirely justified.

kittehserf - MOD
10 years ago

Maude LL, good to see you – how are you?

kirbywarp
kirbywarp
10 years ago

If you think about it, this makes a lot of sense. A society needs leaders and followers. In men, we see very high IQs figuring things out and working out these complex ideas. They document them in easy-to-understand ways for those of lesser intelligence in society and make technology available to all of us. We also see these low IQs, which are more suited to, say, mining the resources that this technology requires and operating the machines the geniuses designed. Women, traditionally carrying the role of raising children and supporting the men who designed and operated the machinery, needed to be somewhere in the middle.

Sooooo…. Society, a thing that does things, needs leaders and followers, so it retroactively causes evolution, a thing that also does things, to make men both geniuses and idiots, then plops women in Ark B (secret reference) to do all the middle management.

Wow, I must be one of the stupid ones, because this guy’s genius is just way too overwhelming.

@Bina:

Why is it always the most rar-rar-ragey dudes who are forever telling WOMEN to calm down…and doing it in thousands and thousands of motherfucking words?

I think the human mind is like a strange attractor that, once it passes a critical point, plunges into whatever mindset it locked on to. Conspiracy theorists gather conspiracies like stamps; tedius, rage-inducing smug people gather even more rage-inducing traits, with Dunning and Kruger to put the final nails in the cofifn.

Master of the Boot
Master of the Boot
10 years ago

I bet you anything that scientist didn’t mean anything by his sexist shirt. More or less he probably didn’t read into what the shirt meant.

That out of the way, it doesn’t give these shitheads the right to shit all over women the way they do or to make death threats over basically nothing.

The woman was well within her rights to criticise that shirt. These idiots had no right to make death threats. Fuck, most of these idiots probably can’t even spell comet, let alone get in on complicated space related sciences.

M. the Social Justice Ranger
M. the Social Justice Ranger
10 years ago

Even better is their “Defense” for this garbage – “Telling women to kill themselves or otherwise die isn’t exactly a death threat, therefore it’s totally okay and if you don’t agree then you should also kill yourself or otherwise die!”

*beats head on wall*

Kim
Kim
10 years ago

@davidknewton
That’s exactly it. That’s so often how it is. Feminists want to have a discussion about how the world is and what can be done to make things better, and misogynists flip out that feminists dare to even speak.

aebars
10 years ago

Thank you, David, for an article about something that isn’t GamerGate.

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