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Good news: Abusive "pickup artist" Julien Blanc kicked out of Australia

Don't let the door hit you on the way out, Julien
Don’t let the door hit you on the way out, Julien

Writing about abhorrent misogyny pretty much every day of every week can get a tad depressing. So I’m glad to have some actual good news to report. Good news, at least, for non-misogynists.

The #TakeDownJulienBlanc campaign has taken off internationally, and the “pickup artist” who advocates choking women as a clever “opener” has been kicked out of Australia, his visa revoked.

In an op-ed in The Independent yesterday, self-described “Aggressive Chinese Girl” Jenn Li explained why she started the #TakeDownJulienBlanc campaign and what it has accomplished so far:

Julien Blanc, a “dating advice” consultant working for Real Social Dynamics (RSD), travels around the world teaching men how to manipulate, and in some cases, sexually assault women. …

In Blanc’s videos his treatment of women is – to put it lightly – horrifying. There are videos of him going up to women, clasping their throats, while putting his finger on his lips, saying “shhh”. For reasons beyond me, he has decided to document this abuse by labelling the videos of him doing this with his own hashtag: #ChokingGirlsAroundtheWorld. …

When talking about how to “seduce” a Japanese woman, he is quoted as saying: “Just grab her… To take the pressure off, yell Pikachu or Pokemon or Tamagotchi or something”. He is obsessed with degrading Japanese women, and abusing his white male privilege. “…

By perpetuating the idea that Asian women are a “free for all” for predatory men, he is encouraging other pathetic men to abuse them. …

When I first started the campaign, I had almost no strategy; I just threw things and hoped they stuck. I called the Japanese Embassy, reported him, wrote to the press, did the hashtag thing, and started a petition on change.org.

I’m now targeting venues who are hosting his events. The campaign is still in its early stages, but something has seemed to have stuck. We have been able to shut down events in Melbourne, Brisbane, Austin, and Seattle, and Eventbrite have stopped hosting his events.

In Melbourne, as I noted a couple of days ago, Li and her supporters convinced the hotel hosting his event to boot him. Blanc ended up having to host the event on a boat, and sent an assistant along to conduct the “seminar” in his place. Locals organized a protest and the event itself was shut down. Not long afterwards, local authorities reported that they had revoked Blanc’s visa. He’s now left the country.

Li’s next goal? To shut down Blanc’s scheduled seminars in Japan in two weeks.

RSD founder Owen Cook, aka “Tyler Durden,” has posted a weird, rambling “non response” to the controversy on his website, a strange mixture of apology, defiance and self-justification. After announcing that “we’re not NOT responding. :),” he basically throws Blanc under the bus:

I think Julien’s video was absolutely stupid.  It was totally out of context and he posted it to get shock, not realizing the full outcome.  I’m sorry about the video.  I would have taken it down if I’d seen it, but don’t monitor all social media postings.

I watched Julien’s entire Free Tour from that event today, and he talks about not degrading women and how he’s just kidding around.  The full infield clips have the girls laughing and asking him to kiss them and things like that.  He deliberately left this out of the video to make it inflammatory.  Again I don’t approve that behaviour and frankly neither does he, he was an idiot to post that.

Then he complains that #TakeDownJulienBlanc supporters are

deliberately taking things out of context. … I see fake twitter accounts claiming to be Julien, or videos from me with sarcasm that are cut to say insane things I’m not saying, and that have context when you watch the whole thing.  They know they’re doing this and think it’s funny, so there’s not a lot of dialogue to be had.

So I’m not NOT talking… it’s just that there’s nobody to talk to. 🙂  I’ve apologized in other threads and condemned the behaviour.  From there it is what it is.

He follows up with a weirdly self-aggrandizing spiel:

All I care about is my ability to do good in the world.  RSD has been a cool vehicle to do that.  If it isn’t a viable vehicle anymore, I’ll continue to do good.  The people who watch our stuff honestly have no idea what it’s like to be a shy guy trying to learn to meet girls, or the pain it causes.  They have no context for why we teach guys what we teach, after years of trying different things to see what works.

It doesn’t matter.  I’ll always do amazing work and make the world better.  As long as I can do that, I’m happy.  The vehicle is just a temporary form that has to be discarded like anything else, whether tomorrow or in 50 years.  As long as I’m alive I’ll keep finding new vehicles to do good things.

It seems like SJW’s cause a lot of trouble for good men as well as bad.  I think it’s important people find out about them.  I think the mainstream media does a lot of messed up things as well.  I’ve honestly felt guilty for not addressing these issues for a while now, but was too busy teaching “pick up” which I’m sure people sensed I did more out of obligation to the community that helped me, than it being my main focus.

So regardless of what happens, I’ll continue to do good.  I’ve spent days working on RSD related stuff, no different than before.  I personally expect RSD to be fine.  My life is basically the same as it ever was, not really different.  I’ve been planning on building something new for a long time, and have a lot of things in the works with it even before this, so if it’s not fine I’ll do other things.

I suspect the plain English translation of all that is: CRAP CRAP CRAP CRAP I THINK WE’RE SCREWED.

As far as I know, Blanc himself hasn’t offered any response to any of this yet — aside from quietly taking down Tweets featuring pictures of him choking women.

For the latest on all this, check out the #TakeDownJulienBlanc hashtag on Twitter, and follow Li herself at @JennLi123.

You can also sign a petition to Take Down Julien Blanc and RSD’s Seminars and Web content. Last I checked, the Change.org petition had garnered more than 30,000 signatures. There’s another one directed at the Japanese government here.

For more on the campaign against Blanc, see:

Julien Blanc, the ‘female attraction’ expert, glorifies sexual violence. The fewer seminars he holds, the better, by Somayya Ismailjee at TheGuardian.com.

Julien Blanc, self-described pick-up artist who promotes choking women, leaves Australia and has visa cancelled, at ABC.net.au.

Australian Government Deports Notorious “Pick-Up Artist” Julien Blanc, by Mark Di Stefano at Buzzfeed.

 

 

 

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sylviaplant
sylviaplant
10 years ago

I am a shy person. I am not good at dating. Never once has it occurred to me to be abusive in order to get what I want. Don’t stereotype shy introverts as creepy abusers, “Tyler.” Not everyone lacks a moral compass.

aebars
10 years ago

When is someone going to make a demotivational composed of photographs of manosphereans (e.g. Aurini, Beale, Bloomfield, Clarey, Elam, Esmay, Farrell, Forney, Makow, Siklic, Tomassi, Valizadeh, Weidmann, etc) with the subtitle: “MRAs and PUAs. It’s possible to be a giant fucking shithead, but you’re not trying as hard as these people.”

Buttercup Q. Skullpants
Buttercup Q. Skullpants
10 years ago

@cassandra – I always find that kind of thing really insulting. 3 SIMPLE TRICKS TO MAKING WOMEN LOSE THEIR INHIBITIONS reduces women to the same level as stain removal. As if we’re a stubborn household problem that can be magically erased with white vinegar and a little elbow grease.

Also, you just know RSD is going to frame this episode as a conspiracy, and parlay it into clickbait. “Secrets of getting women that the AUSTRALIAN GOVERNMENT tried to keep from you!”

@brooked – And I’m sure the billionaire’s getting rich had NOTHING TO DO with getting credit card numbers off the internet. He’s just sharing his knowledge with ordinary people because he’s super excited to have lots of other people using his techniques, competing with him, and making the billionaire club a crowded place!

Elektra Kenway
10 years ago

I’ve felt like saying this for a long time now, especially since the previous post about Blanc that ended up triggering me somehow (I’m still recovering from that, but I’m doing much better): Thank you! I want to express my gratitude to Futrelle and all other mods on this site for the work you do every day on exposing misogynists.

Specifically on this case, I also feel thankful to Jenn Li for speaking and calling out another atrocious misogynist, of the many out there.

I, and others more or less like me, find a bit of safety and warmth in seeing these things exposed. I don’t think I have enough words to describe all the mixed feelings I get.

As a woman, a journalist, a feminist, and a human being, I feel thankful for everyone online that stands against bigotry and exposes it as it is for everyone to be aware of it. We need you to go on. We need you.

And, last but not least, I feel thankful to all other commenters for their empathy and kindness. Such traits are rare online, as they also are in life itself. They should be normal, but they’re rare instead. And I feel thankful for your decency and creating a safe community. I wish more people were like all of you.

Sorry, maybe this is an absolutely meaningless and over-emotional comment to some, but I had to get it off my chest.

Thank you, thank you so much! You give me a much needed dose of strength and hope every day.

PS: GG’s are planning (another) attack on Tumblr (http://geekandmisandry.tumblr.com/post/101999918565/alert-gamergate-planning-to-invade-tumblr). Stay alert.

“Be the change that you wish to see in the world.”

Misha
Misha
10 years ago

@Elektra Kenway

🙂 and a kitty barrel.

Bina
Bina
10 years ago

I am a shy person. I am not good at dating. Never once has it occurred to me to be abusive in order to get what I want. Don’t stereotype shy introverts as creepy abusers, “Tyler.” Not everyone lacks a moral compass.

Megadittoes. I’m a total introvert, who used to be painfully shy and still has shy episodes to this day. Never once has it occurred to me that it might be a good idea to try to “overcome” that by running up to random dudes in other countries, putting chokeholds on them and yelling random local product names. On the contrary, I know enough about real social dynamics (not to be confused with Real Social Dynamics™) to understand that something like that is liable to make me look, at minimum, like a raving idiot. Which is the LAST thing a truly shy, introverted person wants to do.

Not to mention risk getting arrested. I hope the Japanese police are all studying that video and on the alert for white dudes acting like samurai shit.

M.E. Evans
10 years ago

It’s so sad that he’s teaching men to be monsters. You want to get a date, guys? BE NICE. Demand that your buddies be nice. If guys were NICE we wouldn’t be so resistant to dealing with them. If they weren’t so aggressive and mean, I just might talk with them in dance clubs or on the street. The problem is that male entitlement doesn’t allow them to behave like humans who have a mother. Society certainly doesn’t help with all of this brainwashing. It’s sad.

Puddleglum
10 years ago

I am a shy person. I am not good at dating. Never once has it occurred to me to be abusive in order to get what I want.

Also ditto’ing on this. I’m super shy, introverted and absolutely terrible at dating. I’ve also had plenty of opportunities to abuse people to get sex from them, and I’ve never done it. It’s not exactly a hard choice to make. Don’t take advantage of friends and their trust. Don’t take advantage period. This isn’t subatomic physics.

limesweet
10 years ago

The wonderful Clementine Ford wrote a PUA/Julienne Blanc antidote article of sorts for Australian newspaper, The Sydney Morning Herald, yesterday. Basically giving her free advice on how to talk to women without having to resort to the horrendous “techniques” espoused by Blanc. Nothing earth-shattering you’d think, just be friendly, don’t come in with expectations that you are owed a hot babe just because you are a nice guy, stuff like that.

Reading the comments are so funny/sad, so many just didn’t get it at all! They whinged that she didn’t actually tell them anything, and “just being yourself is a feminist lie” and “doesn’t work on women”.

Oh, my, so many points just went right over the tops of their heads.

Here’s a link to the article: http://www.dailylife.com.au/life-and-love/love,-sex-and-relationships/you-can-approach-women-without-being-creepy-20141106-11hslo.html

limesweet
10 years ago

Oops, I didn’t mean to call him “Julienne”. ‘Twas autocorrected

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
10 years ago

That may have been your subconscious at work there with the julienning thing.

Bina
Bina
10 years ago

Heh…he IS getting quite the metaphorical julienning of late, though.

sorceressensorcelled
sorceressensorcelled
10 years ago

“Reading the comments are so funny/sad, so many just didn’t get it at all! They whinged that she didn’t actually tell them anything, and “just being yourself is a feminist lie” and “doesn’t work on women”.”

What is it about “some women are just not going to like you/your dick” that these idiots don’t get? It’s so infuriating how they seem to just want to misinterpret the advice to be themselves so that they can whine later that being themselves didn’t get them the girl. Of course the girl didn’t automatically go for you when you acted like yourself, because she just doesn’t like you! Maybe it’s the way you don’t bathe, expect to get a trophy for just existing, or talking about yourself in the third person like a cartoon villain, but there’s something about you that she doesn’t find appealing. I just want to scream at these assholes: “GET OVER IT!”

I’m sorry guys. This kind of thing gets me so worked up, and I don’t mean to be so frustrated, but I really can’t help but work up a serious hatred for these jerks. I want them to be thrown into a pit of legos, darn it!

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
10 years ago

Sex dispensing machine does not have preferences. Does the soda machine refuse your money if it doesn’t like you? Nope, so why are women allowed to do so?

Preferences are misandry, as we all know.

sorceressensorcelled
sorceressensorcelled
10 years ago

I don’t know, cassandrakitty, I’ve encountered some soda machines that I could have sworn didn’t like me because they ate my money… Maybe feeeeeeemales are the same?

Skye
Skye
10 years ago

The funny (but not really) part about all those “being yourself doesn’t work with women” types is that they usually have *very* specific preferences themselves, yet can’t conceive of women having any at all.

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
10 years ago

OMG, the ticket machine on the bus hates me! I knew it!

Skye
Skye
10 years ago

Cassandrakitty, you’re probably right on the train of thought these dudes have, but, wow, it’s gross.

Bina
Bina
10 years ago

We’re all interchangeable sex-dispensing machines, with interchangeable parts. In that case, why don’t these guys just interchange our parts for those of a Fleshlight, or something? They’ll get laid much more efficiently that way, and no women get harmed, either. Win-win!

kittehserf - MOD
10 years ago

Sorry this rant is going to hetero-centric. I’m speaking from my own experiences and speaking of cultural expectations of women and don’t know how else to phrase it.

Given this thread is about men attacking women, there’s no need for apologies, WWTH.

kittehserf - MOD
10 years ago

Buttercup:

“Skin Care Secrets You Won’t Hear From Any Dermatologist!” Well, yeah, because no reputable dermatologist is going to tell you to pour bleach on your forehead.

Unless they know you’re a PUA … then they just might. It’d be one hell of a temptation, wouldn’t it?

Bina:

We’re all interchangeable sex-dispensing machines, with interchangeable parts. In that case, why don’t these guys just interchange our parts for those of a Fleshlight, or something? They’ll get laid much more efficiently that way, and no women get harmed, either. Win-win!

Because it’s about terrorising women. You can’t inflict pain and fear on a fleshlight.

limesweet
10 years ago

Haha. Australia: hand us your misogynists, we return them as a nice crisp salad

weirwoodtreehugger
10 years ago

“being yourself doesn’t work with women” types

To be fair, for these dudes being themselves probably doesn’t work. Because they’re awful.

Puddleglum
10 years ago

To be fair, for these dudes being themselves probably doesn’t work. Because they’re awful.

This! I’m so glad I work away from the rest of my coworkers because I cackled.

kittehserf - MOD
10 years ago

Apart from the ones in the various parliaments, alas. 🙁

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