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Actually, it's about Zoe Quinn. The midwife of #GamerGate has no regrets.

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Do you remember when #GamerGate was young? You know, back before #NotYourShield and Vivian James and bizarrely complicated conspiracy theories involving Gawker, Weird Twitter and some sort of international Jewish conspiracy?

Remember when #GamerGate was still called #BurgersAndFries, and the angry gamebro army was focused on the real enemy of all that is good and true – a young game designer by the name of Zoe Quinn?

If you’ve been feeling nostalgic for those good old days, you’re in luck. A sprawling blog post by a female friend of Quinn’s obsessive, accusatory ex-boyfriend Eron Gjoni takes us back to the dog days of August when his even more sprawling thezoepost was unleashed upon the world.

Rachel M, who describes herself as an “engineer, designer, accidental writer,” recalls the months she spent with Gjoni as he began to process his breakup with Quinn and marshal his arguments against her. She was there when he posted thezoepost, making her a sort of midwife of what became #GamerGate.

It’s no secret whose side of this controversy she’s on. Her depictions of Gjoni are written with affection and indulgence; her portrayal of Quinn is brutal and a step or two beyond unfair. When Rachel M pretends for a moment that she’s not “someone with an ax to grind against Zoe,” that’s because her little hatchet is already buried in Quinn’s back.

If there is a point to GamerGate Launched in My Apartment, and, Internet, I’m Sorry (Not that sorry) beyond making Gjoni look angelic and Quinn look like a demon, I’m not sure what it is.

After presenting us with a series of uninteresting and unnecessary details of her own life, Rachel M repeats a number of largely discredited myths about Quinn and even seems to have made up a new myth of her own, accusing Quinn of “telling Eron she believed I was lying about my PTSD” in an online chat.

Never mind that the chat log itself, which Gjoni pasted into his zoepost, and which Rachel M also pasted into an earlier post of her own, suggests that Quinn was dubious not about Rachel M’s medical diagnoses but about Rachel’s intentions towards her then-boyfriend.

As I searched through the screenshots on Eron’s site to see if Rachel M’s recollections of this exchange matched the evidence, I was struck again by the utter surreality of #BurgersAndFries and its successor #GamerGate.

Because, the thing is, I don’t want to be reading these chat logs. I shouldn’t be reading these chat logs. These are private moments between two people at a vulnerable moment in both of their lives. They shouldn’t have been posted on the internet in an act of petty revenge against an ex-girlfriend. They shouldnt’ be on the internet at all.

The fact that the details of Zoe Quinn and Eron Gjoni’s sex lives and their messy breakup are so central to the conflicts now roiling the video game world that I have to turn to these screenshots to fact check this post is weird and wrong and rather depressing. Zoe Quinn isn’t the president, caught pantsless in flagrante delicto with a Haliburton lobbyist. She’s a video game developer, and the details of her sexual history are none of our fucking  business.

None of this matters much to Rachel M, who seems to have become trapped in Gjoni’s reality distortion field, borrowing some of his narcissism for herself. She describes Gjoni’s decision to “go public” with the ugly details of his breakup with Quinn and her various alleged infidelities and lies:

Eron talked about going public. He talked about panic, about awareness, about making sure that people knew what they were getting into, about taking a hit – there’d be a hit, for speaking publicly against a woman in any field, but especially against a woman with Zoe’s position and friends in progressive indie gaming – for the good of all, eventually.

This is so perverse and backwards and wrong it’s hard not to wonder if Gj himself wrote it.

He talked about evaluating the risk to his current job, his future jobs, his family, himself. You know, whether he’d get stalked or murdered for this. He talked about the danger to Zoe, about how he could minimize personal harm toward her, whether he could effectively defray harassment towards her.

Well, he did a bangup job of that, huh?

He settled on a few plans toward that end, and decided the risk to himself was worth it. Even the total loss cases for him still meant greater than zero public knowledge about Zoe’s manipulative behavior, her role as an abuser, and the number of lies she’d told. Anything was better than the way it was now.

Really? Because for a lot of people, not just Quinn, things have gotten a lot worse since Gjoni launched his attack against his ex.

Rachel M is actually quite aware of this; indeed, she notes explicitly that the movement that was born out of Gjoni’s long post has directed much of its fury towards women.

Zoe received floods of hate and threats within hours of the post going live. Anita Sarkeesian, a feminist media critic, was forced to cancel a speech at USU after receiving death threats referencing the École Polytechnique Massacre … Brianna Wu, Liana K, and anyone who identifies as a feminist within gaming — they’ve been getting smeared.

Women in games, creators and critics alike, are working through a tide of hate that’s reached the front page of the New York Times. Each new story makes me a little sicker.

Yet somehow she’s still “not that sorry” she helped Gjoni to launch the movement that caused all this. She thinks it’s all somehow … good for women. Because people now know what she thinks is the truth about Zoe Quinn. She ends her post with these bizarre assertions:

I want more women in tech and media, at all levels—in development, in journalism, in the games and books and comics themselves.

I want those women to be as safe, respected, creative, and supported as any man, and I do not want them unprepared in an industry with Zoe Quinn.

And this, I guess, is how someone who helped Gjoni to usher in a hateful, spiteful, reactionary “movement” that has left numerous women fearing for their lives convinces herself that she’s on the side of the angels after all.

EDIT: I corrected Rachel M’s name. No idea why my brain turned her name into Sarah.

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kirbywarp
kirbywarp
10 years ago

@libarbarian:

I get it, you know? We were all young once, naive, thought we were hot shit and all. You hear something dripping with deepity and think “hey, yeah! That guy accurately crystallizes the deep thoughts I myself have about the situation.” I get it, I really do. It’s just… everyone has to grow up at some point, you know? At some point, you have to say to yourself, “you know, maybe I’m not the most brilliant mind in the room. Maybe I’m just being a dick.”

It happens to us all, dude. You just need to take that first step and accept there’s a problem, then go on from there. One step at a time, day by day. It’ll be better some day, I promise.

libarbarian
libarbarian
10 years ago

Really? Jeez. I thought it was validation of my existential awesomeness.

Now I feel deflated.

Whats next? You’re going to tell me that this video isn’t actually holding up it’s main character as a model of authentic revolution? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAYL5H46QnQ

libarbarian
libarbarian
10 years ago

I think they’re trying the “LOL I TROLL U” approach. The last gasp of desperate failed trolls and embarrassed genuine idiots everywhere.

LOL I TROLL U.

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
10 years ago

Actually when it comes to angry misogynist assholes I’m pretty sure that “it gets better” doesn’t apply. These are their salad days, when they were able to scare a couple of women into fleeing their homes and the mainstream media noticed them (and thought they were idiots, but still, attention!). It’s all downhill from here.

kirbywarp
kirbywarp
10 years ago

@libarbarian:

*sigh* Yeah, that’s exactly what I’m going to tell you. Just… good for you, you know? Good that you’re finding things out on your own. It’ll be a long road, with lots of world view changes, but I think you’ll be alright.

thebewilderness
thebewilderness
10 years ago

I think it is worth pointing out how common it is for men to claim that their ex cheated on them by going on with their life post break up. Someone tried to pull that bs on me once, but I had no idea how common it was until people started telling their stories at Captain Awkward.

kirbywarp
kirbywarp
10 years ago

@cassandrakitty:

Used to be that all a good troll needed was a nice bridge to settle under, a fire to stay warm, and maybe an occasional goat or two passing by. Sadly those days have come and gone, and the internet has proven a fertile yet dangerous nesting ground.

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
10 years ago

It shows up during the kind of divorce proceedings that older MRAs tend to be involved in too, this thing where they’ll have been split up for years and the ex wife will be living with someone new and bitter, angry ex-husband will refer to that as her cheating on him.

pallygirl
pallygirl
10 years ago

And if they’re in a Paul Elam fantasy, they’ll then go around and break the ex-wife’s nose.

kirbywarp
kirbywarp
10 years ago

@libarbarian:

LOL I TROLL U.

Well, as they say, “Self awareness is the first step to self acceptance.”

grumpyoldnurse
10 years ago

@ libarbarian – don’t you have some chores to do, before your folks get home?

Skye
Skye
10 years ago

I think it is worth pointing out how common it is for men to claim that their ex cheated on them by going on with their life post break up. Someone tried to pull that bs on me once, but I had no idea how common it was until people started telling their stories at Captain Awkward.

There were a few guys on a radio program over the summer seriously discussing how a friend should get ‘permission’ from his friend before dating an exgirlfriend of said friend. Her feelings on the matter were basically irrelevant. I thought about calling to ask if they checked that any new woman they wanted to date had the permission of their exgirlfriends, but the program tends to be fairly misogynistic in general.

grumpyoldnurse
10 years ago

@ Skye – I wish that I was surprised by that. Sadly, I am not. Teh wimminz is property, doncha know?

FWIW, just because I feel a twinge of hypocrisy, Mr.Grump was in a LTR with a friend of mine before we became a couple. I did not ask her permission to date Mr.Grump, but I did tell her that he and I were an item. She was actually happy for us.

libarbarian
libarbarian
10 years ago

WWTH,

I understand. It’s happened before. Trolling invariably involves short term relationships. I do it to protect myself but then it just leaves me feeling empty as I never make any meaningful connections.

Time to go eat a hotpocket and find companionship in online pornography … and cry a little to myself.

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
10 years ago

Tries to be meta, ends up being an effective sleep aid.

kirbywarp
kirbywarp
10 years ago

cassandrakitty, I have to ask. Are you, in fact, a real kitty?

sylviaplant
sylviaplant
10 years ago

@libarbarian

I do it to protect myself but then it just leaves me feeling empty as I never make any meaningful connections.

Maybe this makes me a sucker, but let’s pretend you’re being genuine here. It sounds like you crave attention. Just so you know, everyone craves attention, but the thing is, it’s better to get attention for being an interesting, thoughtful person, than to walk into someone’s living room and strewing shit around like a hyperactive raccoon.

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
10 years ago

My secret is revealed. I’m purple too.(Well, more of a burgandy, today, but whatevs, details.)

Seriously though, dude is dull. I want to know which site linked to this one recently so I know who to blame for the influx of boring assholes.

kittehserf - MOD
kittehserf - MOD
10 years ago

Mod note: If there are banworthy trolls in a thread, contact David and/or the moderators.

This is a general reminder, but I’m not following the GG threads because I have no involvement or interest in gaming at all, and emilygoddess isn’t heavily into it, so you won’t see us in these threads that much. Please, be proactive when it comes to letting us and the Dark Lord know about trolls!

Bina
10 years ago

But, of course, that ruins your immature little narrative where the good guys wear white and the bad guys wear black and everyone is on one side or the other and no one is a real actual human being.

Um, who here said anything like that? If anyone’s trying to black-and-white things here, it’s YOU. You’re the one insisting that unless she’s as truly blameless as Gjoni initially imagined her to be, Zoe Quinn has no right to legitimate victim status. Do you ever even listen to yourself babble? In case no one else has said it yet, NO ONE HERE IS SAYING ZOE IS A “GOOD GUY”. We are saying that she doesn’t have to be one in order to be a real, bona-fide victim. One doesn’t have to be spotless; one has only to be a target of abuse. Many have acknowledged that she probably wasn’t handling her own problems well during the period in question, but that doesn’t cloud our eyes when it comes to seeing who the real bad guy here is, either. And while I’m not in a position to judge whether Gjoni was abusive to her DURING the relationship, I can see from all the evidence so far that he most certainly was that way afterward…and that is the whole issue. That, in a nutshell, is why Gamergate is bullshit. Judges don’t grant restraining orders to women just because they’re cute and lily-white and woebegone-looking (or willing to strap on the kneepads), they grant them based on evidence of prior abuse and/or well-founded fear that there is more to come. You are being worse than disingenuous with your “both sides” fallacy here. After all, Gjoni neither sought nor received a restraining order against Zoe. She sought, and got, one against him. One human being gave proof to a judge that another human being was making her life a living hell because she dared to date others when she wasn’t together with him. End of story.

But don’t let those little salient facts stand in the way of your boring-ass pompous juvenile trolling, eh?

vaiyt
10 years ago

Le Barbarian Face:comment image

seraph4377
10 years ago

Oh holy Jesus. MRAL is that you?

Anyone else been here long enough to remember MRAL? Anything sound familiar?

seraph4377
10 years ago

About libarbarian, that is?

Bina
10 years ago

I think I’ve seen that troll’s name before. Can’t remember where, alas.

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