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Actually, it's about Zoe Quinn. The midwife of #GamerGate has no regrets.

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Do you remember when #GamerGate was young? You know, back before #NotYourShield and Vivian James and bizarrely complicated conspiracy theories involving Gawker, Weird Twitter and some sort of international Jewish conspiracy?

Remember when #GamerGate was still called #BurgersAndFries, and the angry gamebro army was focused on the real enemy of all that is good and true – a young game designer by the name of Zoe Quinn?

If you’ve been feeling nostalgic for those good old days, you’re in luck. A sprawling blog post by a female friend of Quinn’s obsessive, accusatory ex-boyfriend Eron Gjoni takes us back to the dog days of August when his even more sprawling thezoepost was unleashed upon the world.

Rachel M, who describes herself as an “engineer, designer, accidental writer,” recalls the months she spent with Gjoni as he began to process his breakup with Quinn and marshal his arguments against her. She was there when he posted thezoepost, making her a sort of midwife of what became #GamerGate.

It’s no secret whose side of this controversy she’s on. Her depictions of Gjoni are written with affection and indulgence; her portrayal of Quinn is brutal and a step or two beyond unfair. When Rachel M pretends for a moment that she’s not “someone with an ax to grind against Zoe,” that’s because her little hatchet is already buried in Quinn’s back.

If there is a point to GamerGate Launched in My Apartment, and, Internet, I’m Sorry (Not that sorry) beyond making Gjoni look angelic and Quinn look like a demon, I’m not sure what it is.

After presenting us with a series of uninteresting and unnecessary details of her own life, Rachel M repeats a number of largely discredited myths about Quinn and even seems to have made up a new myth of her own, accusing Quinn of “telling Eron she believed I was lying about my PTSD” in an online chat.

Never mind that the chat log itself, which Gjoni pasted into his zoepost, and which Rachel M also pasted into an earlier post of her own, suggests that Quinn was dubious not about Rachel M’s medical diagnoses but about Rachel’s intentions towards her then-boyfriend.

As I searched through the screenshots on Eron’s site to see if Rachel M’s recollections of this exchange matched the evidence, I was struck again by the utter surreality of #BurgersAndFries and its successor #GamerGate.

Because, the thing is, I don’t want to be reading these chat logs. I shouldn’t be reading these chat logs. These are private moments between two people at a vulnerable moment in both of their lives. They shouldn’t have been posted on the internet in an act of petty revenge against an ex-girlfriend. They shouldnt’ be on the internet at all.

The fact that the details of Zoe Quinn and Eron Gjoni’s sex lives and their messy breakup are so central to the conflicts now roiling the video game world that I have to turn to these screenshots to fact check this post is weird and wrong and rather depressing. Zoe Quinn isn’t the president, caught pantsless in flagrante delicto with a Haliburton lobbyist. She’s a video game developer, and the details of her sexual history are none of our fucking  business.

None of this matters much to Rachel M, who seems to have become trapped in Gjoni’s reality distortion field, borrowing some of his narcissism for herself. She describes Gjoni’s decision to “go public” with the ugly details of his breakup with Quinn and her various alleged infidelities and lies:

Eron talked about going public. He talked about panic, about awareness, about making sure that people knew what they were getting into, about taking a hit – there’d be a hit, for speaking publicly against a woman in any field, but especially against a woman with Zoe’s position and friends in progressive indie gaming – for the good of all, eventually.

This is so perverse and backwards and wrong it’s hard not to wonder if Gj himself wrote it.

He talked about evaluating the risk to his current job, his future jobs, his family, himself. You know, whether he’d get stalked or murdered for this. He talked about the danger to Zoe, about how he could minimize personal harm toward her, whether he could effectively defray harassment towards her.

Well, he did a bangup job of that, huh?

He settled on a few plans toward that end, and decided the risk to himself was worth it. Even the total loss cases for him still meant greater than zero public knowledge about Zoe’s manipulative behavior, her role as an abuser, and the number of lies she’d told. Anything was better than the way it was now.

Really? Because for a lot of people, not just Quinn, things have gotten a lot worse since Gjoni launched his attack against his ex.

Rachel M is actually quite aware of this; indeed, she notes explicitly that the movement that was born out of Gjoni’s long post has directed much of its fury towards women.

Zoe received floods of hate and threats within hours of the post going live. Anita Sarkeesian, a feminist media critic, was forced to cancel a speech at USU after receiving death threats referencing the École Polytechnique Massacre … Brianna Wu, Liana K, and anyone who identifies as a feminist within gaming — they’ve been getting smeared.

Women in games, creators and critics alike, are working through a tide of hate that’s reached the front page of the New York Times. Each new story makes me a little sicker.

Yet somehow she’s still “not that sorry” she helped Gjoni to launch the movement that caused all this. She thinks it’s all somehow … good for women. Because people now know what she thinks is the truth about Zoe Quinn. She ends her post with these bizarre assertions:

I want more women in tech and media, at all levels—in development, in journalism, in the games and books and comics themselves.

I want those women to be as safe, respected, creative, and supported as any man, and I do not want them unprepared in an industry with Zoe Quinn.

And this, I guess, is how someone who helped Gjoni to usher in a hateful, spiteful, reactionary “movement” that has left numerous women fearing for their lives convinces herself that she’s on the side of the angels after all.

EDIT: I corrected Rachel M’s name. No idea why my brain turned her name into Sarah.

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Shalimar
Shalimar
10 years ago

“You’ve allowed yourself to see the evidence that EG and the Channers/GGers are bad people. You haven’t allowed yourself to see the evidence that ZQ is also a very bad person too.”

I think what we’re saying is that your obsession with the sexual virtue of a woman you will never meet and wouldn’t even know about if not for thezoepost is really, really, extremely, horribly creepy.

M. the Social Justice Ranger
M. the Social Justice Ranger
10 years ago
Policy of Madness
Policy of Madness
10 years ago

libarbarian, you clearly believe that EG is a legit abuse victim. You know what the correct response to that is?

You go to EG, and you say, “That’s terrible. I’m so sorry that happened to you. Are you okay? Are you getting help? Do you feel safe now?”

libarbarian
libarbarian
10 years ago

“E.G. is not a put upon, abused man trying to move on with his life. He’s an obsessed ex with an ax to grind and he’s purposefully using idiots on 4Chan to punish a woman for escaping him.”

No. He is a put-upon abused ex with an ax to grind who is using idiots like 4chan to get revenge on the person who abused him and treated him like shit.

Like I said… There are no good guys in this story.

But, of course, that ruins your immature little narrative where the good guys wear white and the bad guys wear black and everyone is on one side or the other and no one is a real actual human being.

Lea
Lea
10 years ago

Woman with depression makes a game to help people understand depression. She donates all the $ she makes to a suicide hotline because she knows that depression can be a terminal illness.

Everyone on this thread is and has been aware of her condition and how it can effect her.

Assholes still try to use her suicidal ideation as evidence of abuse.

Context is a thing, people. When an abuser threatens to kill themselves if you leave or if you call the police, that is manipulation. When a person who is depressed is being triggered by emotional abuse and says so, that is not manipulation. It is her begging him to stop before he drives her to kill herself, which is something he knew all along his $Chan army might do.

He’s not the victim here. It could not be clearer.

Lea
Lea
10 years ago

libarbarian,
You’re a dishonest piece of shit.

Lea
Lea
10 years ago

4chan, not $Chan.

Policy of Madness
Policy of Madness
10 years ago

libarbarian,
You’re a dishonest piece of shit.

A dishonest piece of shit who has completely ignored the fact that EG said, in words, when he was asked the question unexpectedly and didn’t have a lot of time to formulate a response that cast him in a sympathetic light, that his motive was that he felt cheated-upon. Not that he felt abused or manipulated, but that ZQ had slept with someone who wasn’t him (while they weren’t even together).

Lea
Lea
10 years ago

Libarbarian has come here to demonstrate for us that when a man harms a woman in any way, the woman’s character will be the one on trial.
She must be the perfect victim, or else she had it coming.
It’s rather like when a white person decides to murder a black person in cold blood. The character of the murderer black person will be put on trial waaaaay before they murderer ever is.
If they ever are. >.<

Lea
Lea
10 years ago

“they’re”

😛

tinyorc
10 years ago

libarbarian:

2) What would you think if someone told you that “I didn’t watch the Ray Rice elevator footage because it is a private relationship matter” and then proceeded to call him an “alleged abuser”?

False equivalence is false. Ray Rice’s relationship is none of my business, but battery is a crime and therefore it’s a matter of public concern to ensure that due process in enacted against the criminal. Cheating and threatening suicide – while awful things to do – are not actually matters of public concern. Also 9,000 word long blog post from angry ex with axe to grind =/= actually footage of assault. Those two things are not the same level of evidence.

Though, for your information, I didn’t watch the elevator footage because I had no idea who Ray Rice was before I heard about him assaulting his finacée, at which point me watching the footage out of morbid curiosity would be helping exactly no one.

I hope Quinn and Gjoni stay very far away from each other forever and ever until the end of time. That’s the only possible good outcome of this, for both victim and abuser.

Luzbelitx
10 years ago

“Like I said… There are no good guys in this story.”

Boring troll is botomlessly boring.

EVEN IF this was true, nobody’s judging anyone here by virtue of being “the bad guys”.

People are being judged by their ACTIONS.

And your actions are called “desperate trolling”. And btw you’re failing. Loud.

Shalimar
Shalimar
10 years ago

Libarbarian: “Like I said… There are no good guys in this story”.

So you’re saying she stole $20 from his wallet so he sent thousands of sociopaths to harass her out of her home and try to get her to commit suicide, and what you take from this long catastrophe is that people on this forum are naive for not recognizing how horrible it is to steal $20?

And we’re saying even if we agree with everything you allege, you’re still really really creepy for being obsessed with Quinn.

Pocket Nerd
10 years ago

This is something I’ve seen a lot of in the last 48 hours: “It’s impossible to know what really happened, so let’s just agree that everyone was bad to some degree or other! Especially [woman hated by GG].” Is that the new talking point?

I mean, the only people publicly supporting them at this point are neo-Nazis, avowed misogynists, and a few of the alt-right’s most relentless self-promoters. And oh yeah, mustn’t forget that guy who was on that sci-fi TV show and who is famous for playing brutish louts and who turns out actually to be a brutish lout. The coverage they’ve gotten in gaming circles has been relentlessly negative; what little notice they’ve gotten in national news has been mockery shading to indifference.

Maybe it’s finally sinking in for even the most neckbearded, hygiene-challenged, and socially oblivious members of the He-Man Girl-Gamer Hater’s Club that this is not a fight they can win. Maybe whining that everybody acted inappropriately (especially that witch Brianna, and that harridan Anita, and especially especially that whore Zoe) is the new failure mode, and they’re hoping GG will be remembered as a morally-ambiguous stalemate and not the grotty, misogyny-fueled fustercluck it is.

vaiyt
vaiyt
10 years ago

@libarbarian

Like I said… There are no good guys in this story.

How does that justify fostering a campaign of hate and harassment, not only against Zoe Quinn, but also against women in the game industry in general?

grumpyoldnurse
10 years ago

But, of course, that ruins your immature little narrative where the good guys wear white and the bad guys wear black and everyone is on one side or the other and no one is a real actual human being.

WTF is even your point? Seriously, you need to step up your troll game if you’re gonna play here. That’s weak.

Are we not allowed to discuss this because ZQ may or may not have abused Gj? Maybe they were toxic to each other. I, personally, have no idea about the actual details of their relationship. What I do know is that Gj has been the one to start and nurture a vicious harassment campaign against ZQ since their break-up. This does not mean that ZQ is pure and innocent and all that is good, and frankly, I have not seen where anyone here has said that.

libarbarian
libarbarian
10 years ago

@ M. the Social Justice Ranger.

Lol. Sea Lion?

Does using that word make you feel smart? Does having terminology make you feel like a big boy? Like every conspiracy nut who says “False Flag”?

yEAH. yOU’RE ORIGINAL AND COOL.

grumpyoldnurse
10 years ago

Your caps lock is backwards. Thought you might not have noticed through all the flying, frothing spittle.

Luzbelitx
10 years ago

I have not seen where anyone here has said that.

I think I heard a few strawfeminists yelling it.

grumpyoldnurse
10 years ago

Oh! Quite right, Luzbelitx! I meant ‘real, actual human beings who have posted on this board’. But, you’re right! It can be very hard for trolls to tell straw feminists from people, so I should have been more clear.

Luzbelitx
10 years ago

Oooooh troll switched to patronizing-mirror trolling!

Go, dude! You might make a real point any time now…

(LOL not, of course not)

Policy of Madness
Policy of Madness
10 years ago

@libarbarian

Does asserting that voicing suicidal ideation is just as bad as organizing a sustained campaign of hatred that issues death and rape threats, and thousands of wishes that said suicidal person will actually commit suicide make you feel like a logical and balanced individual?

Because it doesn’t actually make you a balanced and logical individual.

Luzbelitx
10 years ago

@grumpyoldnurse

It’s not your fault they choose to listen to their imaginary creations 🙂

Also, you might have been more clear but somehow I don’t think it would have helped a lot…

grumpyoldnurse
10 years ago

@ Luzbelitx – probably wouldn’t have helped if I was crystal clear.

This one seems to be spoiling for a fight. Any fight, and the GOALPOSTS DONT MATTER DAMMIT!!!!11!!!!!!eleventy!!!!

Weak trolling, though. 2/10. Would ban.

M. the Social Justice Ranger
M. the Social Justice Ranger
10 years ago

Wait. I posted a comic to answer Pocket Nerd’s question about what sea lioning is and the skidmark somehow took that to mean that I must be calling them a sea lion?

Ahahaha. Wow, I take back what I said about trolls never being amusing, that was hilarious. Doth protest too much and all that, methinks.

(Also, not a boy, just FYI.)

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