Categories
#gamergate ableism advocacy of violence antifeminism antifeminist women boner rage bullying douchebaggery emotional abuse empathy deficit entitled babies evil SJWs FemRAs gender policing harassment homophobia hypocrisy internet tough guy irony alert men who should not ever be with women ever misogyny MRA not-quite-explicit threats rape culture sarkeesian! sexual harassment things that aren't fascism threats trigger warning video games

On Friday, Anita Sarkeesian called out "toxic masculinity" on Twitter. Here's what happened next.

Anita Sarkeesian's Twitter notifications (Artist's conception)
Anita Sarkeesian’s Twitter mentions (Artist’s conception)

What a surreal life Anita Sarkeesian must lead, in which virtually everything she says and does becomes grist for the Great Internet Lady Harassment Machine, Sarkeesian Division.

Take the latest blowup, which followed a few comments Sarkeesian made in the wake of Friday’s school shooting in Marysville, which may have been triggered by the shooter’s angry response to a romantic breakup. On Friday, Sarkeesian posted a few thoughts on the matter on Twitter:

While it it not literally true that every single mass shooter in history has been male, we are talking about an almost exclusively male club: one recent attempt at crunching the numbers found that 97% of school shooters have been male, and 79% of them white. (The Maryville shooter was Native American.)

In any case, the notion that a crime so heavily associated with men might have something to do with our society’s notions of masculinity isn’t exactly a radical notion. Indeed, it seems rather obvious.

But to Sarkeesian’s many haters, on Twitter and elsewhere, it was as if Sarkeesian had just posted a video of herself drowning puppies. Cue the twitterstorm.

Here are just a selection of the literally hundreds of lovely comments that Sarkeesian had Tweeted at her on Friday and Saturday after making her original comments.

[Giant TRIGGER WARNING for violent, explicit threats, harassment]

.

.

.

.

.

There were, of course, the explicit threats:

Google Chrome 4Google Chrome 5

And the implicit threats:

Google Chrome 39

And the sexual harassment:

 

Google Chrome 3

Google Chrome 36

And those who merely expressed their hope that Sarkeesian would kill herself:

Firefox 12

Firefox 13

Google Chrome 13

Google Chrome 18 Google Chrome 19 Google Chrome 20

Or die a horrible death:

Firefox

Or simply die :

Google Chrome 42

Google Chrome 28

 

But not everyone wished violence on her. Some just told her that the threats and/or harassment she’s already getting is totally justified:

 

Google Chrome 17

Google Chrome 40

Google Chrome 45 Google Chrome 46

Google Chrome 29

(Apparently by “fishing” Mr. de Alba means “expressing an opinion or making an observation.” Also note that the tweets that set off this latest wave of harassment didn’t contain the #GamerGate hashtag. )

Speaking of harassment, we’re just getting started in our chronicle of the latest wave.

Let’s continue with an assortment of Tweets using the c-word, a favorite slur amongst Sarkeesian’s detractors.

Firefox 18 Firefox 19 Firefox 21 Firefox 22

Firefox 32 Firefox 23 Firefox 24

Firefox 9

Google Chrome 21 Google Chrome 22 Google Chrome 23 Google Chrome 24 Google Chrome 25 Google Chrome 26 Google Chrome 27

Google Chrome 47

Firefox 15

Why, yes, that is Suzanne McCarley, A Voice for Men’s “Assistant Managing Editor” happily adding her voice to the harassment.

Others pulled out the f-word:

Firefox 26

Google Chrome 6

 

Firefox 28

She was called a “bitch.”

Google Chrome 7 Google Chrome 8 Google Chrome 9 Google Chrome 10 Google Chrome 11

Google Chrome 44

She was called a “whore.”

Google Chrome 14 Google Chrome 15

She was called a “terrorist.”

Firefox 29

And a Nazi:

Google Chrome 16

Google Chrome 37

Firefox 39

One fellow said that he thought Sarkeesian’s tweets were actually worse than the shooting itself:

Google Chrome 31

And one even declared her “officially worse than Wil Wheaton,” the former Star Trek:TNG actor who has won mass opprobrium from internet dicks for publicly expressing his belief that people  should not be dicks.

Firefox 31

To add insult to injury, a few reported Sarkeesian herself to Twitter for various imaginary infractions:

Google Chrome 38

Google Chrome 34

Another asked why she wasn’t in jail for her, er, crimes:

Google Chrome 35

Just to remind you: these tweets are all from TWO DAYS’ worth of harassment and threats on Twitter. And this isn’t all of them.

At this point anyone who claims that Sarkeesian is “making up” the harassment she gets, or writing it herself, or just the work of a “few trolls,” is either disingenuous or delusional.

I’ll leave the last word to Sarkeesian herself.

EDITED TO ADD:

ATTENTION NEW COMMENTERS! I would like to draw your attention to this bit from my comments policy:

[I]f I’m writing about someone who’s gotten harassed by misogynists on the internet, and you want to talk about how much they deserved it, or what a lying liar they are? Well, fuck you! Your comments go right into the trash.

So take that into consideration. It might save you some time.

CORRECTION: I removed a screenshot of a Tweet that wasn’t threatening but was posted by a troll. See here.

 

975 Comments
Inline Feedbacks
View all comments
titianblue
titianblue
10 years ago

Given that adjectives are beyond our new friend, you’re not wrong, &cassandrakitty.

t1oracle
t1oracle
10 years ago

@cassandrakitty
If you say so. Give me your hardest math problem. I’ll give you one just like it, and we can measure away.

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
10 years ago

Our candles are going to smell of racism and linguistic fail, aren’t they?

Policy of Madness
Policy of Madness
10 years ago

Are you saying that there is absolutely nothing at all useful to either sex in the tradition definitions of masculine/feminine?

Yes, that is what I’m saying. And that’s what you’re saying, too, although you may not realize it. Follow me; t1oracle couldn’t.

If all people behaved in the same manner, and that manner aligned with the stereotypical “feminine” archetype, would that be terrible? Would it be awful if men wore dresses and heels, and had to work out with their wives who gets to stay home to take care of the children, because men want to do that just as much as women do? If men were expected to provide elder care to aged parents and grandparents? If the word “family man” didn’t exist, because all men are just expected as a matter of course to have and nurture families?

If you think that would be a non-optimal outcome, then you need to explain why, in a way that does not devalue femininity. Saying, “Well, men and women are just different,” doesn’t cut it, because everything listed above is a social behavior, not a biological one. Men are perfectly capable of providing elder care. They just don’t do it, because it’s onerous and heartbreaking and it can be foisted off onto women. If femininity is awesome and amazing, why don’t you think it would be awesome and amazing for men to be feminine?

If you think this is a non-optimal outcome, you’re saying that “femininity” is not useful for men to adopt. It may well be useful for men if women adopt it, but there’s no utility in that for women. It’s going to be hard for you to argue that masculinity is useful if femininity isn’t, because masculinity is almost entirely defined as “this is the way women are not.”

If you agree that this outcome would actually be fine, then you’re again agreeing that gender roles are not useful.

Nothing to build on from there, we must start from scratch?

What if you had to build a society, from scratch, and determine all of the racial, gender, social and economic roles from nothing, and you knew nothing about yourself. You have no idea if you are black or white or something else, male or female, rich or poor or middle-class. You could be anything. What rules would you set into place, knowing that there was an equal probability that you might land into any of them?

Would you just copy over our current society, and risk that you might wind up a poor black trans-woman?

jo
jo
10 years ago

t1oracle sure posts a lot but never answered my questions.

So what is everyone’s favourite scented candle?
I heard that Yankee’s recent scent “toxic masculinity” was a bit of a flop.

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
10 years ago

MY MATH DICK IS BIGGER

No toxic masculinity here, nope, none at all.

t1oracle
t1oracle
10 years ago

@weirwoodtreehugger
“And you’re still conflating racism with misandry.”
Welcome to the false dilemma fallacy.

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
10 years ago

I read the Wikipedia page about fallacies, I did. Didn’t understand it, but still, I read it!

indifferentsky
10 years ago

“Exactly what part of basic human decency is challenging Exactly what part of basic human decency is challenging to you? Is it the part where you wrestle with your hatred of masculinity?to you? Is it the part where you wrestle with your hatred of masculinity?”

t1or

The challenge lies in you ignoring what’s said to play victim over the word “troll” and then refusing to acknowledge points made, and then accuse people of doing things they are not doing.

I don’t find basic human decency challenging, and none of my comments have lacked any basic human dececy. Since you don’t know what lack of basic human decency means, I suggest scroll up and read the tweets on this post.

I don’t have a hatred of masculinity, and I don’t think anyone else here does either.

indifferentsky
10 years ago

PS, but by all means, if you can quote something I’ve said that implies hatred of masculinity, then please go get it, instead of vaguely referencing nothing.

t1oracle
t1oracle
10 years ago

@cassandrakitty
“MY MATH DICK IS BIGGER

No toxic masculinity here, nope, none at all.”
Evasion, insult. Are you sure you don’t want some adderall?

@jo
I have being bombarded. Regardless, people can wear whatever scent they want. They should be free to be as masculine, feminine, or whatever have you as they want without being ostracized for it. Does that answer your question?

weirwoodtreehugger
10 years ago

Is trollacle a Pell sock? Remember our last visit from Pell when he said we were racist against French people for calling him Lacrap when he was using the name Lacroix? The claim that you can be racist against Irish people is similar.

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
10 years ago

What, you can’t even come up with a new insult? I guess creativity must be unmanly.

Misha
Misha
10 years ago

@t1oracle,

No, you do not get to snark about my reply. You are the the one who recommended, in the middle of a discussion, that a commenter here take adderall. YOU attempted to be deliberately offensive by implying that she had behavioural symptoms requiring medical intervention. That is deeply inappropriate.

If you’re going to avoid answering for that, fine. But I cannot believe you didn’t answer the seahorse question again. That is unforgivable. ‘Seahorses have different gender roles’ is not an answer to ‘How do seahorses have ascribed gender roles’.

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
10 years ago

Definitely smells a bit sock-ish.

t1oracle
t1oracle
10 years ago

@indifferentsky
You have been very mean to me and you are well aware of that. I don’t need to quote you.

kirbywarp
kirbywarp
10 years ago

Aww, t1oracle didn’t follow through with his promise to use blockquotes. I has a sad now. 🙁

@t1oracle:

I’ve stated numerous times that sexuality is a spectrum. I simply do not want to be vilified.

Masculinity is not a sexuality.

I want my son to be able to go school confident in who he is and not have to worry about how others may perceive him.

Got some bad news for you, dear, but all children face identity crises and trouble fitting in with others. This is exacerbated by toxic masculinity, by the way, so congrats on the weird irony circle.

You may imagine that you exist in a space outside of social constructs,

Where’d you get that idea?

but everything that has been argued as “toxic masculinity” is simply another social construct. It is a new one that insists on invalidating masculinity.

*blink*

You don’t understand what social construct means either, do you? Masculinity itself is a social construct; toxic masculinity is a label for the harmful effects that an enforced narrow conception of masculinity has.

vaiyt
vaiyt
10 years ago

Do you not agree that there are certain traits that seem to manifest more frequently in one sex or another?

That’s trivial. The real question is, WHICH traits and WHY. Inherent traits should manifest uniformly across space/time, and correlate neatly with biological markers. The stuff we normally associate with masculinity and femininity… don’t.

titianblue
titianblue
10 years ago

I’m going to be out of signal for a while. Keep the popcorn warm for me.

fromafar2013
fromafar2013
10 years ago

You may imagine that you exist in a space outside of social constructs, but everything that has been argued as “toxic masculinity” is simply another social construct. It is a new one that insists on invalidating masculinity.

Wait, wait. WHAT?

But earlier you said:

Masculinity isn’t a social construct.

>->

Are you… learning? *hopeful*

JV
JV
10 years ago

@jo

Interesting that a man can’t just buy a “forest” scented candle, no that’s not neutral/masculine enough, must get a war-related one…

I have a forest scented candle in my house right now, one that I purchased with my very own money. My wife enjoys it too. Are you saying I’m not a man!? How dare you, ma’am or sir! Ha. I really do have one, though.

@cassandrakitty

I think the conversation about how what people generally mean when they say “gender” isn’t the same thing as what they mean when they say “sex” may be a bit beyond our new friend.

Am I the new friend? Oh I hope so! I do know the difference between gender and sex. Not sure where in my comments you might have gotten that I don’t. I explicitly state that traditional masculine/feminine roles should probably be redefined or scrapped altogether in terms of gender. But, I also state that some frameworks addressing the experience of living in either a male of female body are needed. So there you have it: the former referring to gender, the latter to sex.

If I am not the “new friend” you refer to, well, then I am sad, but at least you don’t think I’m confused on this point.

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
10 years ago

@ JV

I don’t make friends with people who bore me, sorry.

ceebarks
ceebarks
10 years ago

I don’t really go in for candles much but my husband brought home a bunch of pink “sweet pea” scented ones that are nice, and a “bacon” one that I’m… less enthusiastic about. I hate the ones that smell like food, though.

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
10 years ago

The only food-related candles I like are vanilla.

vaiyt
vaiyt
10 years ago

But, I also state that some frameworks addressing the experience of living in either a male of female body are needed.

This is uncontroversial. The key is defining WHICH elements are truly unique to either gender, and that’s where you’re being vague.

1 20 21 22 23 24 39