So Cosmo ran a piece by Jill Filipovic on A Voice for Men’s phony WhiteRibbon site, and, as surely as winter follows fall, the AVFM comments brigade showed up to offer their unique brand of wisdom.
Take it away, Samuel Twain:
Now, before any MRAs reading this ask how I know that Mr. Twain isn’t just some troll with nothing to do with the Men’s Rights movement or AVFM, bla bla bla, well, as you can see, Cosmo uses Facebook for its comments. And following Mr. Twain’s comment back to his Facebook profile you can see that he regularly posts MRA propaganda and AVFM memes, is a member of a Facebook group called Men’s Human Rights Movement, and, oh yeah, his friends list is filled with AVFM staffers.
So yeah, MRAs, he’s one of yours.
HUMAN RIGHTS, YO!
And Cosmo have achieved redpill bingo!
I… I am trying to figure out why saying the word “work” is either funny, or a sign of twisted undergarments.
Really mature, this one.
*blink*
This is a man who believes himself to be intellectually superior to women and most men.
*blink*
Just let that massive lack of self awareness soak in.
My wife is a feminist, and could support herself just fine without my input – she has an unusual technical/medical skillset which pretty much guarantees that she’ll never be unemployed. Even if we split up, she easily earns enough to pay for a childminder, and so from a purely economic POV I’m entirely replaceable.
But since we’re mature and intelligent adults, we know that human relationships are about much, much more than crude economics and notions of “using” people for selfish ends.
And again…please tell me he’s 12…please?
This is someone with such low self-esteem that one wonders how he even manages to trudge down to his mom’s basement to eat Cheetos and play his little games.
Never mind telling a woman to “get a job” who is being paid by Cosmo to criticize his little “hobby”. Yes, dude…she got paid to pwn you.
Just clicked on that link. He seems to have pulled his facebook page-
“This content is currently unavailable”
Jill Filipovic does have a job; probably several. Cosmo is a paying writer’s market, after all. So that “get a job” crap that all these ‘wingers pull is really not only stale and old, but totally inaccurate. Women work more jobs per capita than men do, thanks to the pay gap.
And really: “Gash”? Um, vulvae are not wounds. Penises are NOT the default setting, after all.
It’s still there on my end.
And he seems like a real charmer! /s
The Facebook link worked when I clicked on it, thought I now wish it hadn’t.
@Bina, thanks, I didn’t even know what “gash” meant. I guess I’m not up to speed on my misogynistic hate-speech.
And you’re absolutely correct that male isn’t the default setting, biologically. It’s female. Not that that means anything at all about any gender being “better” than the other, but it’s basic biology, nonetheless.
Wetherby: You are remarkably fortunate in that this woman has chosen to spend her life with you. 🙂 (And the key words in that sentence are “chosen” and “with you”.) I don’t think people, like the man/child above, believe in the existence of love, which is why love is not a factor for them.
I’m going to assume that this one of those young middle-class young men with with low self esteem. They tend to believe that women have always been able to sit around eating bon bons all day while the men folk busted their hump for them. It smacks of classism. We all know that women have had to work since time immemorium. I’m not even going to differentiate between working for a paycheck and working for your family either. Work is work. I really don’t understand this reductionist thinking that marraige is a financial transaction and not two people loving each other and wanting to work as a team and enjoy each other. I would feel sorry for people like him, but I’ll save it for someone who isn’t a complete shit.
I wish these ‘guys’ could come face to face with some actual radfems. They lose their minds over the most innocuous stuff. What would they do if mainstream ‘feminazis’ actually started calling for widespread castration and whatever else these doofuses fantasise about? Maybe it will make them happy. Much of it seems to stem from rebelling against mummy. Maybe mummy needs to be more strict.
Of course he took down his Facebook. These guys are like roaches when you shine light on them.
Oh wait, it’s still up, you just have have an account or be logged in. Yep, he’s an out and proud shitstain.
Mark Twain would look disdainfully down his mustache at this twit.
There seems to be an idea among MRAs that women don’t work, we just laze around manipuliting men into doing it for us. Both today and historically. How blind can they get I wonder?
Off topic but on the topic of working women, I found out about this recently, thought it was really cool:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tr%C3%BCmmerfrau
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women%27s_Timber_Corps
Hah hah hah it’s funny because a female person used a common word from the English language!
It’s it normally pur-lease. Dude can’t even get his sarcasm right.
hellkell
Duh! Yes, I should have realised I would have to have an account and be logged in. But I have no intention of getting a farcebook account.
How did these guys get to be so foul? Under the very same cultural influences, most people I know I lovely.
He’s probably one of those dudes who thinks women “working” is just lounging around in the office eating bon bons or something, hence laughing at the word “work.”
This is an anonymous asshole loudly scoffing at the very idea of a woman working… to a woman who’s title as administrative specialist in finance is listed directly under her name. How much more daft could you get? Next he’ll be throwing popcorn at the glass while a female surgeon is operating, calling her stupid and lazy and wondering loudly when the actual surgeon will come in.
All those red pills must have formed a fine insulation layer around his brain, protecting him from reality.
@ Lea – thanks for pointing that out. I never needed to sleep again, anyway.
@ Wetherby – feminist woman here who also earns more money than her male partner, and could support herself and our children financially if Mr.Grump and I split. However, like you and your partner, I really hope we don’t split, for reasons that have absolutely nothing to do with money. Think these guys will ever figure something like that out?
Generally, this MRA, like so many others, whinge about how feminists live off men. What I’ve found, though, in my own experience, is that it’s mostly traditional, non-feminist identifying women who ‘live off of’ the men in their lives, whereas self-identifying feminists tend to form more financially equitable partnerships. This includes feminist SAHM’s, who, in my experience, add a whole lot of non-monetary value to the life style of their families, and are usually too Damn busy to lounge about all day eating teh bonbons. Why do guys like this one conflate these two very different groups? Are all women one monolith with a literal hive mind? If so, why do I keep missing the memos?
TL;DR – any self-admitted gold diggers that I have ever met were anti-feminist, very traditional women.
Snerk.
Now, if only the insulating layer would transport him and his ilk to a dimension far, far removed from our own.
A common tactic of bullies is to provoke by pushing the victim until they react. Then blaming and punishing the victim. If they don’t get a rise out of the victim, they crank up the outrageousness factor another notch, and another, and another, until they do. A compliant or scared victim can find his or her life twisted into a pretzel and stuffed in a shoe box of impossibility, just by going along and trying to keep the peace. This feels like an instance of that. I feel in my gut that Elam knew he was transgressing common decency and that all his protests that what he is doing is ok are just the theatrics of a planned hostile social aggression. Perhaps he even believes himself, having worked up a head of rage-steam. He’s on a trajectory that isn’t normal behavior, that’s for sure. In Bram Stoker’s book, Van Helsing describes Dracula as having a child-mind, as pushing the limits in an incremental and inductive sort of way, one milestone at a time. I feel like I’m seeing something similar here. Could just be my imagination, sure, but I’ve seen it done elsewhere.