Paul Elam, the maximum leader of hate site A Voice for Men, has responded to the first wave of media coverage of his phony White Ribbon site with a truculent little rant.
Salon.com, Thinkprogress.org and the ever intellectually flatulent David Futrelle have rage-written on this issue barely 24 hours after we launched the site.
How does he know about the flatulence? In my defense, I’m still recovering from Dollar Taco Tuesday.
I was also just interviewed by Cosmopolitan Magazine, being asked such incisive questions as, “Do you think it is ever OK to hit a woman?”
I imagine that Cosmo was just trying to get a reaction from him, since it’s fairly well-known, at least among those who follow the Men’s Rights set, that Elam’s answer to the hitting women question is yes, yes, a thousand times yes! Indeed, Elam can barely restrain himself on the subject, having penned a short story, an allegedly “satirical” post and a serious, non-satirical post all laying out his case for punching women, and not only in self-defense.
Elam pauses his rant for a moment to make the whimsical assertion that his phony WhiteRibbon.org site is an “attempt to insert empiricism and genuine expertise into the discussion of violence in the home” before setting forth what he calls “a few facts” that he thinks will answer all questions.
One, White Ribbon Campaign is not trademarked by anyone. Deal with it.
Sorry, Paul. I don’t think this is the get out of jail card you think it is. The real White Ribbon campaign could assert common law trademark rights. It’s been around since 1991.
His other facts are kind of boring, so let’s just move on to the heart of the tantrum:
I have a message for Salon, ThinkProgress, Futrelle and anyone else bashing us for presenting valid research on a very real social problem. It is a message I will not use to sully the pages of WhiteRibbon.org.
This message is this: Go right straight to Hell you gang of bigoted, lying scumbags. That is, if Hell will even have you pieces of shit. …
That’s it. Write motherfuckers. Whine. Complain. Cry in your fucking Cheerios. The only thing you will ever accomplish is helping us spread the truth.
U mad bro?
I think he’s mad.
Oh, and one last thing. Send your lawyers. We will be happy to ride them for a while just for the fun of watching you pay the fucking bill.
Uh, who exactly are you talking to here? I’m pretty sure that neither I nor Salon nor ThinkProgress will be sending any lawyers. Someone else might, though. I guess we’ll have to see how that works out.
P.S. And while we’re talking about the spiteful immaturity of AVFMers, here’s an AVFM post from the YouTuber blabber “Mad Shangi” in which he actually boasts about acting like an obtuse diskhead in an, er, “debate” with me on Twitter.
More proof that it’s pointless to actually try to discuss anything with people who are either terminally thickheaded, or posting in bad faith, or, as seems to be the case with Mr. Shangi, a bit of both.
I’d never use the phrase “quivering mound of love pudding” in the bedroom, but Richard Griffith’s delivery of the line makes me giggle uncontrollably.
It’s like Patton Oswalt’s routine about G-rated smut being WAY more horrifying.
I’m just plain scared of birds.
@marinerachel: Australia has vicious birds. Who knew?
@pallygirl:
DO NOT ENGAGE THIS BIRD.
LOL did you look at the magpie page on that site, Falconer? It’s Teenage Pest Magpie season here now, the poor parents are wandering around and the kids (who are pretty well full grown) are following them EEEP EEEP EEEP EEEP EEEP EEEwhaarble when parent gives up waiting for it to look for its own damn food and shoves something in its beak.
Gross comment coming up. You’ve been warned.
Would black pudding describe an Ebola vagina?
I’m sorry.
weirwoodtreehugger,
New keyboard now thank you please.
@Falconer
The Aquarium of the Pacific in Long Beach, as part of its mission to educate the public about marine life, has an aviary full of rainbow lorikeets. I don’t get it either. But they are very cute and will perch all over you, up to half a dozen at a time, if you have one of the little cups of nectar the aquarium sells for that very purpose.
One of the better euphemisms for a vagina that I’ve heard was “fairy purse”. It sounds so cute. >.>
@Karalora
WEIRD. The Newport Aquarium in Cincinnati does the exact same thing with the exact same birds and the exact same little cups of nectar.
WWTH,
No.
Could we not go there? Ebola really doesn’t work that way. It causes hemmorage, so it really is more like unexpicable bruising, fever, and bleeding from the orrifices.
The blood is not black. Black and tarry would be blood that’s gone through the digestive system. It’d be in stool, or in vomit.
Not out of that one, it wouldn’t be black.
Also, Ebola really doesn’t care who contracts it, so any other justification for why using that color works is totally wrong and awful. I’m going to assume “good-ish” faith and assume you were refering to the bloody-ness, and not that other ‘justification’.
Regardless, No.
I’m noping away from this thread for a bit…
Contrapangloss: I think you read a bit much into WWTH’s comment. Wow.
To be honest, I saw some of the same implications contrapangloss saw. Maybe because there’s been so much about ebola in the news, and so many terrible people equating it with all of Africa and all black people.
I just saw a bad joke.
*shrug*
Boca Chica! I live two miles from there and it requires enormous reserves of self control not to eat there every day.
I have a cousin who refers to her vagina as her “flower” and there is just not enough Lana Kane style “Nope!” in the world for that nonsense.
Um yeah, I meant blood. Nothing to do with race. I do see how it could come off that way, but I hope people know me well enough to know I wouldn’t make a racist joke. But sorry if it’s offensive, mods can delete it if anyone likes. I won’t protest.
ChelleG,
I live clear across town and don’t have a car or I’d be the same way.
http://www.cosmopolitan.com/politics/news/a32452/antifeminist-site-white-ribbon/
I guess Cosmo wasn’t impressed. Comments are already under attack, just proving the point yet again. Not pretty and there are only a few.
Fairy purse is too close to coin purse which is a euphemism for scrotum so, while it is indeed cute-sounding, I can’t get behind that.
Oh whoops, I also just saw a shockingly bad joke. Hence tipping wine over my keyboard.
Chessington zoo over here does exactly the same thing! I loved the lorikeets perching on my head and arms. Not so much after when I realised they’d done their business on me. There were no warnings for that.
@Falconer
If she’s already having sex, now is probably a bad time to stick penises in her. Unless, of course, it’s a threesome.
…a threesome with the penis-sticker. Not just a random threesome.
The Vancouver Aquarium has an Amazon exhibit that’s a free flight gallery but their attitude is totally different. You make sure there’s no food on you anywhere and the birds stay away from you. Otherwise, you’ll be fucking assaulted by TERRIFYING hyacinth macaws and ibis. There are some little birds in there but they’re way too wild to perch on you and the whole point of not bringing food in there is to prevent them from contacting you. The exhibit is kept wild and you just pass through it. The animals in it think you’re the foreigner.
Then there’s the Bloedel Conservatory in Queen Elizabeth Park in Vancouver. It’s an even grander free flight gallery with a couple hundred birds calling it home. Again, you do NOT feed them. They do NOT come in contact with you. They’re too wild. Some of the finches are really brassy though and, in big groups, will tolerate people if they’re hanging around their feeding station. Many of the parrots who call the conservatory home will exhibit some unnatural behaviours because they were pets and were either rescued or given to the conservatory. A couple of them are sufficiently curious that they’ll follow people around the conservatory but they still keep their distance.
I think that’s a better set-up for the people and birds that feeding them nectar and getting shit on.
Vulva names:
There’s one I originally saw in English, in a one-time encounter, and immediately stole, because it sounds really cute and catchy when translated into Finnish. Only I might never get to use it because it’s also potentially rather…gross?.
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