Paul Elam, the maximum leader of hate site A Voice for Men, has responded to the first wave of media coverage of his phony White Ribbon site with a truculent little rant.
Salon.com, Thinkprogress.org and the ever intellectually flatulent David Futrelle have rage-written on this issue barely 24 hours after we launched the site.
How does he know about the flatulence? In my defense, I’m still recovering from Dollar Taco Tuesday.
I was also just interviewed by Cosmopolitan Magazine, being asked such incisive questions as, “Do you think it is ever OK to hit a woman?”
I imagine that Cosmo was just trying to get a reaction from him, since it’s fairly well-known, at least among those who follow the Men’s Rights set, that Elam’s answer to the hitting women question is yes, yes, a thousand times yes! Indeed, Elam can barely restrain himself on the subject, having penned a short story, an allegedly “satirical” post and a serious, non-satirical post all laying out his case for punching women, and not only in self-defense.
Elam pauses his rant for a moment to make the whimsical assertion that his phony WhiteRibbon.org site is an “attempt to insert empiricism and genuine expertise into the discussion of violence in the home” before setting forth what he calls “a few facts” that he thinks will answer all questions.
One, White Ribbon Campaign is not trademarked by anyone. Deal with it.
Sorry, Paul. I don’t think this is the get out of jail card you think it is. The real White Ribbon campaign could assert common law trademark rights. It’s been around since 1991.
His other facts are kind of boring, so let’s just move on to the heart of the tantrum:
I have a message for Salon, ThinkProgress, Futrelle and anyone else bashing us for presenting valid research on a very real social problem. It is a message I will not use to sully the pages of WhiteRibbon.org.
This message is this: Go right straight to Hell you gang of bigoted, lying scumbags. That is, if Hell will even have you pieces of shit. …
That’s it. Write motherfuckers. Whine. Complain. Cry in your fucking Cheerios. The only thing you will ever accomplish is helping us spread the truth.
U mad bro?
I think he’s mad.
Oh, and one last thing. Send your lawyers. We will be happy to ride them for a while just for the fun of watching you pay the fucking bill.
Uh, who exactly are you talking to here? I’m pretty sure that neither I nor Salon nor ThinkProgress will be sending any lawyers. Someone else might, though. I guess we’ll have to see how that works out.
P.S. And while we’re talking about the spiteful immaturity of AVFMers, here’s an AVFM post from the YouTuber blabber “Mad Shangi” in which he actually boasts about acting like an obtuse diskhead in an, er, “debate” with me on Twitter.
More proof that it’s pointless to actually try to discuss anything with people who are either terminally thickheaded, or posting in bad faith, or, as seems to be the case with Mr. Shangi, a bit of both.
You never heard that one, Misha?
You mean like …
How many times have you hit a woman, Paul?
When was the last time you bloodied a woman’s lip, Paul?
Do you think women should be beaten for burning dinner, Paul? What about for refusing sex?
Just how vile a loathsome toad are you, Paul?
We actually went for Mexican on Saturday and had an omigawd amazeballs chicken quesadlla to start. Their salsa is really, really fruity. I love that. They also serve the biggest fucking margaritas I’ve ever seen. I was driving so only consumed part of mine and my drunkass sister drank the rest plus hers.
She has hardcore IBS. Her housemate must have had a great night.
Exactly like those. Reasonable and urgent questions for someone who’s expressed an intent to bring ‘genuine expertise into the discussion of violence in the home’.
The thing about Elam is that his reasoning for wanting to hit a woman half his size is the same as someone who thinks setting fire to a kitten is a courageous act only because most people would never do it.
The correct response to this is “So is jumping headfirst onto a bed of rusty nails.”
A tad OT for this thread, but I wanted to make sure David sees it, and I know Elam is one of the folks who likes to make a lot of hay with the whole, “more men than women are raped in the U.S. if you include men that I never care about in any other circumstance”. This is a full-bore take-down of why the studies used to support the claim don’t really say what the MRM wants to claim they say, and why you can’t use them to come up with any sort of intelligible numbers:
http://echidneofthesnakes.blogspot.com/2014/10/more-men-are-raped-in-us-than-women.html
But there are plausible and important social reasons to post enormously long and detailed blog posts about when it is totally courageous to set fire to kittens that have nothing to do with secretly wanting to be allowed to set fire to kittens, only the felinazi internet police are afraid of the truth.
What are your feelings on “wisker biscut”?
I can already say you’ve ruined both tacos and vulvae for me – how much more damage can you do? D:
davidknewton,
There’s only one way to know for sure.
Remember, this is for posterity. So please, be honest.
I prefer whisker biscuit to fur burger, tbqh.
I’m more of a burrito fan myself.
Elam needs a tabasco colonic.
@marinerachel, no I haven’t, I guess because tacos aren’t that big here in the UK yet?
We do, however have ‘kebab’ or ‘bearded oyster’.
‘Quivering mound of love pudding’ is my absolute, absolute favourite.
Amanda Marcotte is also on this
http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2014/10/24/mra_and_paul_elam_lures_people_away_from_anti_domestic_violence_site_with.html
Quivering.
Mound.
Of.
Love.
Pudding.
Misha you owe me a new libido!
Especially in the case of Paul Elam, since he is in favor of prison rape for men he doesn’t like.
Nooooooooooooo!
We say bearded clam. We’re less classy in Canada.
http://forums.androidcentral.com/attachments/htc-one-m8/120911d1401574470t-tragedy-has-struck-shattered-one-darth-vader-nooooo.jpg
Unless someone put pudding in there, there’s no pudding in my quivering mound.
http://www.nooooooooooooooo.com/
Hair pie.
Or the awful, awful “her sex.” Which, I mean, isn’t even universal ’cause there’s a lot of hims or thems with innies.
I’m tempted to look up some of the Ye Olde names for vageens. I’m sure there are some scary ones.
@Marinerachel…
… I did not need to know that. Please, please, please tell me that alambre and queso (my other two favorite Mexican foodstuffs) are safe from euphemism.
Please.
An burritos? The only adequate non food use for burrito is referring to burrito-wrapping kitties at the vet. Right?