[UPDATE: The real White Ribbon Campaign has responded; I’ve added excerpts at the bottom.]
Apparently, A Voice for Men is just itching to be sued.
Paul Elam and the gang over at everyone’s favorite Men’s Rights hate site have just launched a new website — WhiteRibbon.org — that seems pretty clearly designed to undermine and co-opt the real White Ribbon campaign, a long-running international initiative to fight violence against women.
The REAL White Ribbon campaign has a number of websites, reflecting its international reach — in Canada, where the initiative originated, as well as in the UK, Scotland, Australia, New Zealand. and other places. But apparently the organization didn’t buy up all the related domain names.
And so the little schemers at A Voice for Men have grabbed the WhiteRibbon.org URL for themselves and set up a site of their own that seems intended to, as the lawyers say, cause confusion in the marketplace and take advantage of the White Ribbon campaign’s good name for its own purpose. As least that’s how it looks to my non-lawyer eyes — and to the eyes of one lawyer I contacted.
The site has evidently just gone live, heralded by a post from Elam on AVFM declaring
Gents and ladies, I present to you without further ado whiteribbon.org and whiteribboncampaign.org. It is a website I am very proud of, and proud to say that AVfM will be investing whatever resources it takes to make whiteribboncampaign.org the most highly recognized and iconic voice in the worldwide White Ribbon Campaign.
With our resources, and our reach on Google, it is only a matter of a short period of time before we can make good on that promise.
AVFM has also set up a phony Facebook page as well. Here’s the real White Ribbon Facebook page.
A Voice for Men may pretend that their sites are an attempt to fight domestic violence “against everyone.” But evidence of AVFM’s bad faith is everywhere, and overwhelming.
On its faux White Ribbon site, for example, AVFM declares that it is the REAL White Ribbon campaign and that the real campaign … is a fake.
In a post with the title Caution: Please beware of false White Ribbon initiatives, Claire Bissett – identified as the “administrative manager of whiteribbon.org” – writes:
There is only one whiteribbon.org
First, allow me to welcome all of you to whiteribbon.org. White Ribbon is a worldwide initiative to bring awareness of the problem of intimate partner and other forms of family violence to the population at large. …
It is … my sad duty to caution you that there are numerous attempts by other entities to corrupt the message of the White Ribbon Initiative by inserting dishonest and sexist messages into this movement. …
[W]e urge you in the strongest possible terms to consider what you are actually seeing when you encounter groups going by the name “White Ribbon” whose message is gendered, as in “Stop Domestic Violence Against Women.” …
These people are much more interested in raising money than in raising awareness. …
There is only one White Ribbon Initiative that seeks evidence based, scientific and realistic ways to help reduce the problem of violence in the home. You are at the source of that initiative right now. Please help us out by donating and by passing this website on at social media sites and your own blogs.
Yep, they’re asking for money. The donation button is at the top of the page, with the perhaps deliberately ambiguous message:
WhiteRibborn.org is owned and operated by A Voice for Men. All donations for our White Ribbon effort will be used to maintain and enhance this website.
It’s not clear to me whether “this website” refers to WhiteRibbon.org or A Voice for Men. In any case, if you click on the PayPal button, it takes you to an A Voice for Men donation page, and it’s up to you to specify the purpose of your donation. There are no assurances on the page that donations intended to support WhiteRibbon.org will be kept in a separate account or even spent on that website.
Elam’s own post announcing the WhiteRibbon.org page is so extravagantly disingenuous, so suffused with self-satisfied gloating, that you can practically hear him snickering sadistically like some cartoon villain as you read it.
The people behind the White Ribbon have undoubtedly put in a huge amount of sweat equity and actual funds in branding the White Ribbon Campaign (WRC). …
Obviously, the people getting the job done on behalf of WRC really outdid themselves on planning and marketing.
Well, there was one goof. They neglected to pick up the obvious choices for domains for their program, especially given they are aiming for growth. …
As I mulled over the considerable resources we now have at A Voice for Men, and our ongoing interest in the area of domestic violence, I surmised that this was a very opportune moment to invest vigorously in the WRC project. This was confirmed when I found out that whiteribboncampaign.org, whiteribbon.org, and most of the .coms and .nets associated with that name were similarly unspoken for.
What a fantastic time, I told myself, for the AVfM organization to figuratively join hands with White Ribbon Campaign organizations worldwide and to help them spread the unyielding truth about the problem of domestic violence in this culture.
So that is exactly what we did.
Wow.
As I said before, I’m no lawyer, but someone who is a lawyer tells me that what AVFM is doing is such a clear violation of trademark law that the real White Ribbon campaign could not only sue but win its case. The evidence of AVFM’s bad faith is so clear and overwhelming, the lawyer notes, that the judge hearing such a case would likely “choke.”
Not only that, but AVFM seems to be acknowledging upfront that their new “initiative” is an attempt to divert money from the real White Ribbon campaign and into AVFM’s coffers. The reader comment chosen as the “featured comment” for Elam’s article is from a longtime AVFMer saying that he will be taking the money he would have donated to the White Ribbon campaign and sending it to Elam’s initiative:
Other commenters praised Elam’s “genius” and did little victory dances, their comments indicating that they understand full well that Elam’s claims to be “figuratively join[ing] hands with White Ribbon Campaign” are transparent bullshit. Here an an assortment of comments taken from the 100+ now up on the site.
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Some commenters took it a bit further. Shrek6, so gleeful in the comment above, earned some upvotes with a violent rant against the original “white feather” and the White Ribbon campaign that he sees as its modern equivalent:
If I had the power and I could, I would arrest every single white feather wielding coward, strip them of all their female clothing, put them in army greens and send them directly to the front line to have their heads blown apart by high powered bullets or shrapnel. Or they can watch as their female friends get their bodies blown into many parts by a bomb of some sort.
That is the only way to treat the lowest form of scum on this planet. You have to make them actually experience the hell they are shaming men into.They are nothing but murderers and the most vial and foul thing to walk on 2 legs.
Knowing this white ribbon campaign is nothing but an extension of the white feather campaign, we must show them our indignation, our hatred and our anger. We must do all we can to beat them down, even if we have to get into their filthy nest to do so. And having this website is hopefully going to achieve that end.
(Emphasis mine. See a screenshot of his full quote here.)
A fellow by the name of Mike Gibbs added:
Traitorous white-knights and mangina’s are exponentially worse that feminist and as such, both should be eliminated.
(See a screenshot of his full quote here.)
One commenter responded, for some unknown reason, with a graphic photoshopped picture of … Anita Sarkeesian with bruises all over her face, as if she had been severely beaten. Screenshot here.
If you plan on “fucking up the shit” of a large international organization by infringing on its trademark, it seems to me, it’s probably a bad idea not to announce this publicly – and gloat about it.
And if you’re trying to pretend that you care about ending violence, you should probably not be posting comments calling for violence against your enemies.
UPDATE: The real White Ribbon campaign has responded to AVFM’s campaign. Here are some excerpts of their response, which you can see in full on their web site.
Today, White Ribbon (www.whiteribbon.ca ) became aware that a “so-called” men’s rights group has launched a copycat campaign articulating their archaic views and denials about the realities of gender-based violence.
Their vile sentiments – which include disparaging comments about women’s shelters and victim blaming survivors of rape – are completely incongruent with our values at White Ribbon.
Their misguided attempts to discredit others only make clear the extent to which they see the success of our equality-driven, evidence-based, ally-focussed work on gender justice as a real threat to their ill-informed, isolated views on this issue. This latest example is clear evidence of their insincerity and lack of commitment to developing compassionate solutions for the issues they claim to care about. It also showcases their real focus: attacking, harassing and directing anger towards others. …
Allies and supporters: do not to be fooled by this copycat campaign. We are exploring all of our options, but we will not be engaging with this group in a public screaming match. They can remain a shrill minority. We will continue to engage with the vast majority of men who believe in gender justice, and want to be part of the solution.
What a fantastic time, I told myself, for the AVfM organization to figuratively join hands with White Ribbon Campaign
This is the money quote, IMO. It’s only a figurative joining of hands – no attempt was made to reach out and offer support or suggest a team-up or even ask the White Ribbon to expand its mission to include other genders. They didn’t even try to join hands in a meaningful way.
As it stands, this isn’t so much a “joining of hands” as a “raising of the middle finger”. I know we all see that they care more about sticking it to feminists than helping men, but how do they not see it at this point?
$50 to White Ribbon (the real one!) and $10 to Canada Helps.
Thanks for bringing this to our attention. Hopefully the donations they get from those of us who have the wherewithal to help and are outraged by this behaviour will help to defray the costs they have to incur to protect themselves from this fetid slimy mess of an attack.
I keep thinking of old saying about people who pat you on the back with one hand and pick your pocket with the other in relation to Elam and the White Ribbon Campaign.
@Kevin K
All they can do is ruin other people’s ideas. They’re incapable of doing anything positive that stands on its own merits. It’s all reactive. They traffic in “satire”, stunts, pranks, imitation, appropriation, and co-optation. They’re the kid who kicks over other people’s sandcastles because he can’t build his own (EVEN THOUGH MEN BUILT EVERYTHING EVERYWHERE EVARRR SHUT UP SHUT UP LA LAAA I CAN’T HEAR YOU FEMINISTS).
Their whole motto is FTSU. Not “create our own shit”, but “go fuck other people’s shit up”.
Part of me can’t help thinking a secondary goal of this fake site is to re-traumatize (female) abuse victims who might be seeking help. It’s the same reason they posted a bunch of nasty graphic images of battered women on Pinterest, a site that skews heavily female. It wasn’t a recruiting tactic, it was a brutalizing tactic, a deliberate trigger attempt.
#shutupwoody
The image of the man with facial scars on the whiteribbon.org home page is from a guy who was attacked by a drunk man who ‘glassed’ him in the face. Story on Buzzfeed.
So…AVFM has posted a fake anti-violence site to help male victims of women, but the only photo he could find is of a man assaulted by a man who is being victimized once more by having his photo used in a false context without permission? This is all so insulting to both men and women. Elam attacks women, but he also exploits men.
I think they’re counting on Elam being locked up, so they can confirm and draw attention to the crap they spout about the government being run by a cabal of feminist sympathizers who’re out to get men like them.
They already think JudgyBitch’s Twitter suspension is a direct attack on their free speech by the Feminazi cabal who own the Internet, or something.
Elam’s enough of an egomaniac to want to be seen as a martyr to the cause, and then AVFM can get publicity by campaigning for his release.
Even if they lose in court, they will still “win” the “moral” victory, because MRA logic.
Let’s brace ourselves for a possible future: redcross.info, unicef.info, http://www.aspca.info, wish.info, and whatever else they can come up with. Scum has no boundaries, it just spreads as far as it can.
Did everyone see this? http://www.avoiceformen.com/allbulletins/a-message-to-salon-com-thinkprogress-org-and-david-futrelle/ This shows their mentality better than anything I could say. Do you know of anyone who started or worked for an actual charity feeling or expressing themselves this way? AVFM is basically a crew of socially incompetent rage addicts who never grew up so far as I can tell.
I can see MRAs emptying their bank accounts to donate to his defense fund too. Just look at how many people donated to Darren Wilson.
While I find their method dishonest I do share their point: women aren’t the only victims of domestic violence and the white ribbon campaign should protest domestic violence against everyone, rather than just females.
If they really cared about DV victims, they’d start honest campaigns of their own, support other campaigns, spread information and raise awareness… by basically any other means than hijacking a focus group.
Seriously, the entire concept of focus group and their role in social justice seems to completely escape them.
I smell a conspiracy. Let’s get sued so that we will get publicity so that all the other poor, oppressed, trilby wearing, white, male, neckbeards who suffer silently will know who we are and will join our bowel movement….er….movement.
I realise this site is Australian, but if Elam has as many supporters as he seems to, they could easily find US counterparts who could put together something culturally appropriate and direct some funds their way.
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They occasionally have enough money for TV advertising – lighthearted in a particular way, but reassuring to men who hate the idea of “touchy feely rubbish”. I think this crowd is one that gets a fair amount of funding from Movember in Australia.
No shit, considering they’re against social justice.
Wow is right.
I hope the real White Ribbon sues Elam’s lying ass.
@scarletpipstrelle:
Some choice quotes:
I’m really feeling the figurative hand-holding, aren’t you?
Immediately after saying these words, Paul broke into a moving rendition of Kumbaya, my Lord.
FYI, it looks like the links to two of the screenshots of comments on the website actually both link to the same screenshot of one of the comments. Might want to fix that.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
The AVFM comment is absolutely shocking (although not more so than the original act of putting up a false ‘allied’ website), and really makes it clear just how full of impotent anger he is.
A genuine question – I know we don’t like the words “insane”, “crazy”, and so on on this board, but seriously, what can be used to describe someone so divorced from reality as to think this is somehow a good idea? Irrational? Just blinded by sheer hate?
That about covers it.
He’s been saying this shit for so long he’s talked himself into believing it entirely.
Although I believe in having unsentimental compassion towards other sentient beings, Paul Elam challenges that. How wounded must he be to behave in such a manner. Where’s the honour, the nobility in behaving like this? To circumvent a genuine charitable effort to raise money for his digital treehouse must require an ignorance and disconnection that beggars belief. Still he has to suffer the worst fate of all, waking up each day as Paul Elam, fostering separation and illusion wherever he goes.
So they had a chance to help stop domestic violence against men…
And they took gloating instead.
Calling themselves MRAs is starting to seem a little disingenuous.
@Y.S. Yi
Paul Elam is a supporter of GamerGate. If it’s tagged, I would assume that’s why. After all, if Satoshi Nakamoto suddenly started talking about anything, people who love Bitcoin would wanna know, even if “he” was talking about something that appears unrelated to internet currency.
ys, yeah, I tagged it #gamergate mostly b/c of the Sarkeesian pic; you’re right that it’s a bit tangential but it was so horrific I thought it was worth highlighting.