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A Voice for Men has set up a phony White Ribbon website to coopt the international anti-violence campaign of that name [UPDATE: Real WRC responds to AVFM]

Beware of cheap imitations
Beware of cheap imitations

[UPDATE: The real White Ribbon Campaign has responded; I’ve added excerpts at the bottom.]

Apparently, A Voice for Men is just itching to be sued.

Paul Elam and the gang over at everyone’s favorite Men’s Rights hate site have just launched a new website — WhiteRibbon.org — that seems pretty clearly designed to undermine and co-opt the real White Ribbon campaign, a long-running international initiative to fight violence against women.

The REAL White Ribbon campaign has a number of websites, reflecting its international reach — in Canada, where the initiative originated, as well as in the UK, Scotland, Australia, New Zealand. and other places. But apparently the organization didn’t buy up all the related domain names.

And so the little schemers at A Voice for Men have grabbed the WhiteRibbon.org URL for themselves and set up a site of their own that seems intended to, as the lawyers say, cause confusion in the marketplace and take advantage of the White Ribbon campaign’s good name for its own purpose. As least that’s how it looks to my non-lawyer eyes — and to the eyes of one lawyer I contacted.

The site has evidently just gone live, heralded by a post from Elam on AVFM declaring

Gents and ladies, I present to you without further ado whiteribbon.org and whiteribboncampaign.org. It is a website I am very proud of, and proud to say that AVfM will be investing whatever resources it takes to make whiteribboncampaign.org the most highly recognized and iconic voice in the worldwide White Ribbon Campaign.

With our resources, and our reach on Google, it is only a matter of a short period of time before we can make good on that promise.

AVFM has also set up a phony Facebook page as well. Here’s the real White Ribbon Facebook page.

A Voice for Men may pretend that their sites are an attempt to fight domestic violence “against everyone.” But evidence of AVFM’s bad faith is everywhere, and overwhelming.

On its faux White Ribbon site, for example, AVFM declares that it is the REAL White Ribbon campaign and that the real campaign … is a fake.

In a post with the title Caution: Please beware of false White Ribbon initiatives, Claire Bissett – identified as the “administrative manager of whiteribbon.org” – writes:

There is only one whiteribbon.org

First, allow me to welcome all of you to whiteribbon.org. White Ribbon is a worldwide initiative to bring awareness of the problem of intimate partner and other forms of family violence to the population at large. …

It is … my sad duty to caution you that there are numerous attempts by other entities to corrupt the message of the White Ribbon Initiative by inserting dishonest and sexist messages into this movement. …

[W]e urge you in the strongest possible terms to consider what you are actually seeing when you encounter groups going by the name “White Ribbon” whose message is gendered, as in “Stop Domestic Violence Against Women.” …

These people are much more interested in raising money than in raising awareness. …

There is only one White Ribbon Initiative that seeks evidence based, scientific and realistic ways to help reduce the problem of violence in the home. You are at the source of that initiative right now. Please help us out by donating and by passing this website on at social media sites and your own blogs.

Yep, they’re asking for money. The donation button is at the top of the page, with the perhaps deliberately ambiguous message:

WhiteRibborn.org is owned and operated by A Voice for Men. All donations for our White Ribbon effort will be used to maintain and enhance this website.

It’s not clear to me whether “this website” refers to WhiteRibbon.org or A Voice for Men. In any case, if you click on the PayPal button, it takes you to an A Voice for Men donation page, and it’s up to you to specify the purpose of your donation. There are no assurances on the page that donations intended to support WhiteRibbon.org will be kept in a separate account or even spent on that website.

Elam’s own post announcing the WhiteRibbon.org page is so extravagantly disingenuous, so suffused with self-satisfied gloating, that you can practically hear him snickering sadistically like some cartoon villain as you read it.

The people behind the White Ribbon have undoubtedly put in a huge amount of sweat equity and actual funds in branding the White Ribbon Campaign (WRC). …

Obviously, the people getting the job done on behalf of WRC really outdid themselves on planning and marketing.

Well, there was one goof. They neglected to pick up the obvious choices for domains for their program, especially given they are aiming for growth. …

As I mulled over the considerable resources we now have at A Voice for Men, and our ongoing interest in the area of domestic violence, I surmised that this was a very opportune moment to invest vigorously in the WRC project. This was confirmed when I found out that whiteribboncampaign.org, whiteribbon.org, and most of the .coms and .nets associated with that name were similarly unspoken for.

What a fantastic time, I told myself, for the AVfM organization to figuratively join hands with White Ribbon Campaign organizations worldwide and to help them spread the unyielding truth about the problem of domestic violence in this culture.

So that is exactly what we did.

Wow.

As I said before, I’m no lawyer, but someone who is a lawyer tells me that what AVFM is doing is such a clear violation of trademark law that the real White Ribbon campaign could not only sue but win its case. The evidence of AVFM’s bad faith is so clear and overwhelming, the lawyer notes, that the judge hearing such a case would likely “choke.”

Not only that, but AVFM seems to be acknowledging upfront that their new “initiative” is an attempt to divert money from the real White Ribbon campaign and into AVFM’s coffers. The reader comment chosen as the “featured comment” for Elam’s article is from a longtime AVFMer saying that he will be taking the money he would have donated to the White Ribbon campaign and sending it to Elam’s initiative:

 Peter Wright Mod • a day ago  I am personally very pleased that the White Ribbon Campaign now has A Voice For Men as its vanguard. This is fortuitous for everyone wishing to stop violence against all people (instead of just women) and who wish to donate their hard-earned dollars to such a widespread anti-violence campaign.  All money I was going to pledge to the White Ribbon Campaign to stop violence against only women will now be directed to the AVfM campaign to stop violence against women, men, and CHILDREN.  Praise to the individuals who set this up. :-)

Other commenters praised Elam’s “genius” and did little victory dances, their comments indicating that they understand full well that Elam’s claims to be “figuratively join[ing] hands with White Ribbon Campaign” are transparent bullshit. Here an an assortment of comments taken from the 100+ now up on the site.

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Some commenters took it a bit further. Shrek6, so gleeful in the comment above, earned some upvotes with a violent rant against the original “white feather” and the White Ribbon campaign that he sees as its modern equivalent:

If I had the power and I could, I would arrest every single white feather wielding coward, strip them of all their female clothing, put them in army greens and send them directly to the front line to have their heads blown apart by high powered bullets or shrapnel. Or they can watch as their female friends get their bodies blown into many parts by a bomb of some sort.
That is the only way to treat the lowest form of scum on this planet. You have to make them actually experience the hell they are shaming men into.

They are nothing but murderers and the most vial and foul thing to walk on 2 legs.

Knowing this white ribbon campaign is nothing but an extension of the white feather campaign, we must show them our indignation, our hatred and our anger. We must do all we can to beat them down, even if we have to get into their filthy nest to do so. And having this website is hopefully going to achieve that end.

(Emphasis mine. See a screenshot of his full quote here.)

A fellow by the name of Mike Gibbs added:

Traitorous white-knights and mangina’s are exponentially worse that feminist and as such, both should be eliminated.

(See a screenshot of his full quote here.)

One commenter responded, for some unknown reason, with a graphic photoshopped picture of … Anita Sarkeesian with bruises all over her face, as if she had been severely beaten. Screenshot here.

If you plan on “fucking up the shit” of a large international organization by infringing on its trademark, it seems to me, it’s probably a bad idea not to announce this publicly – and gloat about it.

And if you’re trying to pretend that you care about ending violence, you should probably not be posting comments calling for violence against your enemies.

UPDATE: The real White Ribbon campaign has responded to AVFM’s campaign. Here are some excerpts of their response, which you can see in full on their web site.

Today, White Ribbon (www.whiteribbon.ca ) became aware that a “so-called” men’s rights group has launched a copycat campaign articulating their archaic views and denials about the realities of gender-based violence.

Their vile sentiments – which include disparaging comments about women’s shelters and victim blaming survivors of rape – are completely incongruent with our values at White Ribbon.

Their misguided attempts to discredit others only make clear the extent to which they see the success of our equality-driven, evidence-based, ally-focussed work on gender justice as a real threat to their ill-informed, isolated views on this issue. This latest example is clear evidence of their insincerity and lack of commitment to developing compassionate solutions for the issues they claim to care about. It also showcases their real focus: attacking, harassing and directing anger towards others. …

Allies and supporters: do not to be fooled by this copycat campaign. We are exploring all of our options, but we will not be engaging with this group in a public screaming match. They can remain a shrill minority. We will continue to engage with the vast majority of men who believe in gender justice, and want to be part of the solution.

 

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AcidTrial
AcidTrial
10 years ago

Why do I have a feeling that if/when Elam and Co. get there comeuppance for this, they will claim it’s evidence of some sort of conspiracy against either them or men writ large?

kirbywarp
kirbywarp
10 years ago

I browsed around the Wayback machine website for the url. It was picked up by some religious group against immigration for a bit, then used in one of those adversites which are just a search bar and a bunch of links with the “white ribbon” key word.

Interestingly enough, though, as far back as May 13th, 2013, the url redirects to A Voice For Men. I’m not entirely sure how the machine works, but this could have been in the works for quite some time.

Unfortunately, the wayback machine doesn’t have a snapshot of the current site yet. Here’s hoping the crawler will get around to it soon.

ginnyn56
ginnyn56
10 years ago

(Sorry for the Double post)

@Falconer

In GoDaddy at least, around 18 USD a year. The problem goes with the fact this assholes not only have pay the domain for a year, but also the fact they have exclusive access to the domain for about, I think 2 years even if they don’t pay. After that the DNS Server release it.

Luzbelitx
10 years ago

They hate so much the fact that feminism does not behave as they think they should.

So now they’re taking up to themselves to do the dirty work they think feminism should be doing! Voilà!

These guys can take the world by surprise, huh?

freemage
freemage
10 years ago

Most of this is, of course, just vile and infantile, about what I’ve come to expect from AVfM. But that last bit where they conflate the White Feather and White Ribbon campaigns, and also imply that the White Feather campaign is still somehow going on. Also, this bit:

That is the only way to treat the lowest form of scum on this planet. You have to make them actually experience the hell they are shaming men into.

So, since he sees the two campaigns as similar, he wants to make women experience the Hell of… being told to not beat and rape people? Okay, I think we can accept that.

Luzbelitx
10 years ago

I felt bold and went to that phony site.

It is so damn full of straw that any feminist would choke on it.

However, it *might* delude someone who is hardly aware of gendered violence iddues.

Also, lots of images of bruised faces, mostly women. Classy.

kirbywarp
kirbywarp
10 years ago

Maybe there’s a robot.txt file or something on the servers that host whiteribbon.org, because the wayback machine just redirects back to avoiceformen. Pity. At least I apparently got the crawler to save the article where AVFM announces the new website. Hopefully that serves as good evidence in the future.

ginnyn56
ginnyn56
10 years ago

More things about the domain: Apparently it was registered in November of 2012 by a AVFM according to who.is, and, for the most part, I think just redirected to their website. So, this was a big planning on their part or they this year realized they could do evil stuff with it too.

Either way, is there some way to excommunicate someone from the human species?

leftwingfox
10 years ago

“Get the drills, boys! The bottom of this barell goes all the way to Hell!”

kirbywarp
kirbywarp
10 years ago

@ginnyn56:

So if they got exclusive access to the domain for 2 years after Nov 2012 free, then that time period will end in a couple weeks. Maybe this is their last hurrah to do something with the domain before their hold on it expires.

ginnyn56
ginnyn56
10 years ago

@kirbywarp

According to the who.is at least, they have the domain until November 26, 2017. They can renew the domain before the time of use expires. If they can’t pay on time for a renewal, then the system wait for them.

kirbywarp
kirbywarp
10 years ago

@ginnyn56:

I guess we know what the donations for website maintenance will go towards. I can’t imagine they’ll be keeping the website around for a month, though, what with all the legal trouble they’d provoke.

pallygirl
pallygirl
10 years ago

In NZ, the campaign hands out white ribbons (the same style as the breast cancer pink ribbons or AIDS awareness red ribbons) at transit stations and on the streets. There’s no donation taking from what I’ve seen on the streets, for example no-one has collection buckets. It is all men giving out the ribbons, including police in uniform. All ethnic groups, all lovely smiling men.

If anyone in NZ Police is reading this, that your staff do this year after year is one factor that makes me proud of our police force.

magnesium
magnesium
10 years ago

Wow, trying to steal money from a domestic violence charity? That’s low MRA’s, even for you.

M. Tremblay
M. Tremblay
10 years ago

Wow. Whenever I think MRAs couldn’t get any lower, they just take a shovel and prove me wrong. Totally signal-boosting this…

Kevin K
Kevin K
10 years ago

Of course, inquiring minds now want to know if Elam can be charged with criminal fraud. I suppose it would have to be a Federal beef…don’t know if anyone has the FBI on their speed-dial.
Heh…depending on how many people are in on it…could be a RICO case. BIG jail time.

ginnyn56
ginnyn56
10 years ago

I know this is stupid, but: The official register is Name.com. According to the who.is the domain cannot be changed of server, meaning they probably also have their server in Name.com. I went there and they have a philanthropist section. I clicked there out of curiosity and there is a list of organizations they help, including The Pixel Project (An organization about increasing awareness about violence against women), Girl in Tech and Women for Women International. (http://www.name.com/good)

And, again, I know it’s stupid, but I can’t stop giggling about it.

Shaenon
10 years ago

More things about the domain: Apparently it was registered in November of 2012 by a AVFM according to who.is, and, for the most part, I think just redirected to their website.

I am not at all surprised it took these geniuses two years to make a webpage that looks reasonably professional as long as you don’t click any of the links.

Sorry, and a Zazzle store. The Zazzle store alone probably represents six months of effort.

YoullNeverGuess
YoullNeverGuess
10 years ago

This con has been pulled before. I’ve seen at least one news story on people who register a bunch of names that sound like real charities and create toll-free phone numbers for them. I’m not sure what the legality is. It sounds to my inexperienced ear that Elam has crossed a line by blatantly attempting to discredit the actual charity. If he were a smarter con man, he’d know enough to play dumb to give himself some plausible deniability when the law cones knocking.

YoullNeverGuess
YoullNeverGuess
10 years ago

Comes*. I always see one typo after I post.

goodrumo
10 years ago

Reblogged this on iheariseeilearn.

kirbywarp
kirbywarp
10 years ago

@Shaenon:

I was going to say “gotta love that their ‘studies’ link generates a 404 error,” but I just checked and that’s been fixed. It now holds what claims to be “An Exhaustive Bibliography of Domestic Violence Research,” which focuses exclusively on “assaults by women on their spouses or male partners.”

I am absolutely convinced that their legal defense, should they need one, is that this was just an elaborate satire to raise awareness for how whiteribbon totally only focuses on women as victims and nobody else.

pallygirl
pallygirl
10 years ago

This will probably embed, but I don’t care:

http://i.imgur.com/a5eZVVb.jpg

davidknewton
davidknewton
10 years ago

Jesus… buggering… Christ. How can anyone think that this is okay? The idea that he thinks he can describe them as “joining hands” with someone who hasn’t asked to have their “hand” taken has telling metaphorical implications about their attitude to other people. Joining hands by climbing up on to someone’s shoulders and shouting “LOOK AT ME!!” What a bouquet of tosslords.

I can’t wait to see what happens.