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#GamerGater declares "the only harassers are anti-GGers." Then sexually harasses an anti-GamerGate woman

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Sexual harassment: it’s not just something that dudes do. And here’s a little story from the GamerGate wars on Twitter to demonstrate this.

Yesterday, an anti-GamerGate Twitterer known as directed a question to Adobe Software. And got an indignant reply from a GamerGater known as Cameralady.

https://twitter.com/The_Camera_Girl/status/524654719982391297

Now, this response is interesting for several reasons.

For one, Cameralady on Twitter, called that because she is the, er, camera lady for the YouTube channel ShortFatOtaku, is the same Cameralady I ran across repeatedly when going through those logs of the #burgersandfries IRC channel, one of the main organizing hubs of the campaign of harassment that became #GamerGate.

Cameralady, one of the angriest commenters in that angry bunch, showed up in the IRC channel on August 23rd ready to do battle with Zoe Quinn, who she claimed had once “belittled me for having autism.”

She turned out to be an indefatigable researcher, digging up a great deal of dirt about Quinn’s past, including what she said was a photo of Quinn at age 13. And she passed along lurid gossip from Zoe’s terrible ex about her sex life.

Here’s the charming way Cameralady introduced herself to the IRC channel, the log of which you can find online here. (I’ve removed some unrelated comments, indicating cuts with ellipses. )

Aug 23 01.51.50 <Cameralady> fuck zoe quinn


Aug 23 01.52.08 <Cameralady> she’s not interested in equality she’s interested in stuffing her flappy cunt with flaacid boy penises
Aug 23 01.52.14 <TechPriest> So your in this to take her down, and dehumanize her because she deserves it

….

Aug 23 01.52.38 <foTTS> To be honest, I wouldn’t credit her with depression quest since she only provided 75 lines for it, Cameralady
Aug 23 01.52.54 <Cameralady> that’s less than the lines of cum she’s swallowed


Aug 23 01.53.26 let’s al capone her

On another occasion, she thought about releasing all the dirt she found on Quinn to the world.

Aug 23 18.57.47 <Cameralady> there’s a part of me that is evil and says MAKE A BIG DOXX AND RELEASE IT AND SHIT ON ZOE MOOOORE …
Aug 23 18.57.57 <Cameralady> but the rational part of me is “what no what will that even do”
Aug 23 18.58.18 <W334800> exactly, give her more attention her current monstrous form craves
Aug 23 18.58.34 <rd0952> attention is not the same as punishment

You may also recall in one of my previous posts about the IRC log that I quoted someone fantasizing about starting a relationship with Quinn just so she could “dump her in the most brutal, heartwrenching way possible.”  That was Cameralady.

So that’s one of the interesting things about this alleged opponent of harassment.

The other one?

Well, shortly after Tweeting about how only anti-GamerGaters harass people, she sexually harassed an anti-GamerGater.

 

https://twitter.com/The_Camera_Girl/status/524660916810678272

 

When someone called her on it, Cameralady accused him of homophobia:

 

https://twitter.com/The_Camera_Girl/status/524668632476176385

No, I’m pretty sure what we’re talking about isn’t lesbianism (or misogyny) but harassment. When you say, to a woman you’re having an argument with on Twitter, that you want her to prove something “preferably in a post-coitus conversation with me, grrl,” that’s harassment, not a clever pickup line. Regardless of your gender.

Especially since this isn’t the first time that Cameralady has crudely “propositioned” Izzy Mariana on Twitter. Indeed, a week ago, they had this exchange:

 

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Indeed, to even call these “propositions” is a bit misleading. These are attempts to rattle Mariana by addressing her in a crudely sexual way, not serious attempts to ask her out.

Are any GamerGaters calling out Cameralady for this behavior? No, they’re trying to pretend that she’s being oppressed as a lesbian — for sexually harassing a woman who already told her to get lost.

GamerGaters always deflect accusations of harassment by saying that “we don’t know if the harassers are GamerGaters.” Well, here’s an example of a rather prominent GamerGater sexually harassing a woman in broad daylight on Twitter — and all her GamerGater comrades can do is deny and deflect and throw out accusations of homophobia.

Oh, and give Cameralady virtual high-fives for her harassing tweet — which at the moment boasts seven favs and retweets, all of them from active GamerGate supporters.

Such ethics. So anti-harassment.

EDITED TO ADD: According to this Storify, Cameralady has done this to at least one other person.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Kevin K
Kevin K
7 years ago

Wow. Sounds like she has some real “issues”…I”m thinking anger management might be one of them. And pretty low self-esteem. And sociopathic levels of lack of empathy.

All in all, just your average GGer.

indifferentsky
7 years ago

Now there is someone that has swallowed the patriarchy empanada whole.

vraydar
7 years ago

Here’s more evidence of her using sexual harassment https://storify.com/strictmachine/keep-your-pants-on

giddyupdude
7 years ago

You people are mocking an autistic person with a whole article and a comment saying that “she has issues”.

I hope you’re real fucking proud of yourselves.

kirbywarp
kirbywarp
7 years ago

… umm….

Ethics in game journalism?

vraydar
7 years ago

I was involved in the comment thread yesterday, and what sickened me the most was how much pleasure camera lady was getting from the fact she knew her sexual comments were making Izzy uncomfortable. It was borderline sadistic.
Every gamergater that was involved in the thread tried to make excuses for her behavior (Either with “This isn’t enough proof”, “She’s just flirting with you, are you a homophobe?”, or “It’s not sexual harassment, she’s a lesbian”).

Here they are trying to explain it away: https://mobile.twitter.com/CelticSteelNY/status/524663395497558016

patrickgallogly
7 years ago

Yeah, I’m not sure the shirt in that title picture is the best way to say I’m a Radiohead fan!

talbotfish
talbotfish
7 years ago

Like I mentioned in the last post..GG is dissolving to it’s core and just the genuine sadists,)feeding like fleas upon human misery) … and obsessively desperate remain (desperately trying to fill a void)

kirbywarp
kirbywarp
7 years ago

Ugh. CameraLady is on her twitter channel as well, vehemently asserting that she was simply flirting, and that flirting was not harassment, and that calling it harassment was being sex-negative. FFS.

greyskye
greyskye
7 years ago

I had experience with that today when someone tweeted #stopgamergate2014 asking for an example of harassment, because he didn’t quite understand what all the fuss was about, so I tweeted him some of what I’ve experienced directly as a result of being a woman in gaming. He proceeded to discount every one of my experiences with slightly worse examples of treatment he said he had gone through – which included a gaming stalker leaving dead animals in his mailbox apparently – and saying that because he didn’t believe any of what he’d gone through was harassment, nothing I had was harassment either.

I see that “what I believe is harassment and what you believe is harassment is different therefore you’re wrong” is today’s party line to obfuscate and dismiss anyone who is trying to show examples of harassment.

Kevin K
Kevin K
7 years ago

So, sadist as well. Good to know. Building a profile of the typical GGer.

Sociopathic tendencies (we all have some; they have them in spades).
Poor impulse control.
Anger management difficulties.
Sadism.

Check. What else? Other than raging sexism, of course.

weirwoodtreehugger
7 years ago

Being a lesbian does not give you carte blanche to harass women.

It’s funny. Anti-feminists think feminists want women to be held to lower standards than men. But when feminists hold a woman to the same standards as men by saying “don’t sexually harass women” they’re the ones who are insisting that it’s somehow OK for a lesbian to harass someone. So much projection.

They really have no idea what misogyny or homophobia actually is, do they?

YamaraTheGod
7 years ago

She thinks she’s the Schroedinger’s Cat of #shields.

But she’s still up for murdering kittens.

weirwoodtreehugger
7 years ago

You people are mocking an autistic person with a whole article and a comment saying that “she has issues”.

I hope you’re real fucking proud of yourselves.

Fuck off. Being on the autism spectrum is not an excuse for harassment. It’s insulting to autistic people to say that it is.

As the sibling of an autistic person, fuck you. Go step on legos.

kirbywarp
kirbywarp
7 years ago

@weirwoodtreehugger:

They really have no idea what misogyny or homophobia actually is, do they?

All they know is that they are words that make them feel bad, which are invoked occasionally when women or gay people are involved. And they’re desperately confused about why the same words don’t make the other side feel bad.

Bounty
7 years ago

They actually hold her up as an example of someone who has been bullied or harrassed. Scroll to the bottom.

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/from-gamergate-to-unicef
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Luzbelitx
7 years ago

This smells so much of a regular male misogynist impersonating a lesbian… do we know for sure this is actually a woman?

Luzbelitx
7 years ago

They really have no idea what misogyny or homophobia actually is, do they?

I guess they think they’re slurs against “normality”?

Bounty
7 years ago

Oh, and apparently that image showing Brianna Wu harassing cameralady is fake.

http://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/2jylzd/re_twitter_and_false_accounts/

ikanreed
ikanreed
7 years ago

Okay, we’ll give you the benefit of the doubt, lady, and assume everything was done with pure intentions.

In that hyper-generous framework, you make stupid-as-hell generalization fallacies and should stop.

~SJW illuminati~
~SJW illuminati~
7 years ago

She also propositioned Zoe Quinn a few days ago. (Which TOTALLY was an actual offer and not a thinly-veiled excuse to find more dirt on her/give her more shit to deal with, I’m sure.) Cameralady really isn’t a very nice person!

Kate
Kate
7 years ago

You people are mocking an autistic person with a whole article and a comment saying that “she has issues”.

I hope you’re real fucking proud of yourselves.

This is not a post mocking an autistic person for being autistic, or even for being oblivious in social situations and not picking up on cues or what have you. It’s a post about someone causing deliberate harm through harassment. No one here is claiming that behaviour is caused by autism.

Also, it doesn’t matter the root cause for the harassment. The harassing behaviour needs to stop. (I can’t find the link to the post about stepping on feet, but I think that it applies here, does anyone know what I’m talking about?)

seraph4377
7 years ago

Seconding Luzbelitx. The GGers have a lot of sock puppets, the belief that claiming membership in a marginalized group armors them against all criticism from lefties, and no idea how to actually behave like anything other than privileged white dudebros on the net. The construction “I’m a (member of not one but three marginalized groups) and it’s anti-gamergaters who are the real harassers” makes me suspicious as hell.

Of course, Judgybitch is no sockpuppet, despite being a living caricature, so it’s not impossible…

greyskye
greyskye
7 years ago

Cameralady keeps saying that being called an aspie is a derogatory insult. But it’s not. It’s how the majority of people with asperger’s and who work & live with them refer to them, it’s a fond term for it. All of my aspie friends use the term to describe themselves and actually prefer being called an aspie. Just googling the term “aspie” and your first page results will include individuals, therapists and support organizations using the term to identify themselves.

Her asperger’s is NOT the problem here, she’s just a jerk. She’s just using her various diagnosis and labels to try and hide her TRUE identity.

weirwoodtreehugger
7 years ago

I had to leave and go to the bus stop so wasn’t able to expand on my earlier reply to ggiddyupdude.

Saying that autism excuses or explains harassment is wrong on several levels. It’s used often as a silencing tactic when women speak out against harassment. It belittles autistic people by suggesting that they are incapable of learning right from wrong or modifying their behavior. It also throws autistic people who are kind and don’t harass people under the bus and adds to negative stereotypes about them.

To my knowledge, my brother has never sexual ly harassed anyone, but once, years ago there was a man at the gym that he teased and bothered. It seems that he found the noises this man made while working out hilarious. Once my dad caught wind of the situation, he talked to my brother, told he was bothering this guy and told him to knock it off. And he did stop harassing this guy. He may not have understood on his own that the behavior was inappropriate, but he was able to learn that it was and change his behavior.

My brother is also probably far lower functioning than Camera Lady. His IQ is far below average and he can barely even use a computer. If he can learn right from wrong, so can she.

andiexist
andiexist
7 years ago

@giddyupdude

As an autistic lesbian? This lady is pretending that being part of these groups gives her the right to do whatever the heck she wants. Just because society doesn’t want people like me doesn’t mean I go harassing people, and it doesn’t give her the right to do so either. I may lose my temper sometimes, I may absolutely suck at socializing sometimes, but I do not harass people. This woman merely perpetuates the perception of autism as a “jerk syndrome.” …I like the word perpetuates too much, don’t I?

So, no, I don’t see any problems with this post. I do, however, see problems with this woman.

vaiyt
7 years ago

You people are mocking an autistic person with a whole article and a comment saying that “she has issues”.

The issues being her asshole behavior, sexual harassment and attempts to use her illness to deflect criticism. Not her autism.

It’s also rich that a movement started by 4channers, people who use “autistic” as punctuation, is trying to point fingers at other people. In words that your ilk can understand – troll harder.

Viscaria
Viscaria
7 years ago

Giddyupdude, autistic people are perfectly capable of not harassing others and you should be ashamed of yourself for implying otherwise. Ass.

Nice excuses from Camera lady, though. “I was just flirting,” huh? Did you learn that one from the street harassers who are “just trying to give you a compliment, God!”

Policy of Madness
Policy of Madness
7 years ago

I think everyone is giving giddyupdude far too much credit. This is an ordinary troll, not someone who is confused and honestly thinks that autistic people and lesbians are legit immune from any criticism of their behavior.

kirbywarp
kirbywarp
7 years ago

The pattern boils down to this:

Anti-SJ: You think X group is immune from criticism, and you call any criticism X-phobia!

SJ: No I don’t, and bigotry isn’t criticism.

Anti-SJ: Oh yeah? Well, I’m part of X, and I don’t agree with you. If you criticize me, you’re being X-phobic!

SJ: …

Anti-SJ: Checkmate, SJW. Hoisted by your own petard.

M. the Social Justice Ranger
M. the Social Justice Ranger
7 years ago

I hate to say it, I’ve seen way too many neurotypical trolls lie about being autistic as an excuse for their trolling and a shield from punishment – and referring to herself as “Disabled” is something of a red flag in that direction, since a lot of us on the high-functioning end of the spectrum don’t really like to think of ourselves that way regardless of whether or not we technically are – to believe that she actually is.

M. the Social Justice Ranger
M. the Social Justice Ranger
7 years ago

*But I’ve seen. Missed a word somehow. o_O

ikanreed
ikanreed
7 years ago

@kirbywarp

They can’t and don’t understand non-strawman feminism. The end.

hellkell
hellkell
7 years ago

You people are mocking an autistic person with a whole article and a comment saying that “she has issues”.

I hope you’re real fucking proud of yourselves.

You’ve been told, but hear it again: Being autistic is not a free pass to be an asshole. Plenty of autistic people can learn about boundaries and appropriate behavior, which is more than I can say for gamergaters and assholes like you.

Amanda
Amanda
7 years ago

She does this A LOT of women, and quite frankly Camerlady is in the top #3 reasons why I would never join GG, and I have hundreds.

vaiyt
7 years ago

Well, when one’s worldview depends on them not understanding feminism, you can bet they will do their damned best to not understand it.

Viscaria
Viscaria
7 years ago

These disingenuous dirtbags would like us all to know that their various female sock puppets and sock puppets of colour are #notyourshield, but cowering behind a harasser’s autism and sexuality is totally cool. For them.

Luzbelitx
7 years ago

@seraph4377

Yeah, the RabidBadgers came to my mind as well after posting.

Still, it smells like manly shit to me.

“they will do their damned best to not understand it.”

Hell yes, they will!

leftwingfox
7 years ago

Today in “It’s always projection”: #notyourshield, ours.

Kevin K
Kevin K
7 years ago

Yes, in the same way that all 14 year old girls on the internet looking for an older man to fuck are actually 42 year old sheriff’s deputies…anyone claiming to be an autistic lesbian anti-feminist gamer is more likely to be a Cheeto-eating troll living in his mom’s basement.

My money is on “persona adopted by a troll”.

Kevin K
Kevin K
7 years ago

Maybe even someone who also goes by the name giddyupdude in an alternative persona.

It is “gamers” after all.

Castaigne
Castaigne
7 years ago
ryeash
7 years ago

Hmm. She RT’d this a couple days ago:

https://twitter.com/BloomfieldJanet/status/523458962704699393

So we can likely add MRM connection.

chimisaur
chimisaur
7 years ago

I smell sock too; like someone upthread said, “I was just flirting” sounds waaaaay similar to “lady can’t take a compliment” and this is logic I’ve seen almost exclusively from the cishetman set.

Binjabreel
7 years ago

So it seems that today the marching orders of GamerGate are as follows:
1. Be a willfully obtuse, ingenuous asshole in someone’s mentions.
2. Push and push until the person gets pissed off.
3. Say “well I need to disengage have a nice day” (a lot of them have been saying “gonna go play some vidya!”) as soon as the target is angry.
4. Immediately accuse them of harassment if they tweet one more thing.
5. For bonus points, have some rando slide into the conversation and perform number 4.

They’re some horrible gaslighting bastards. I think the rule is, “anything they’ve accused their opponents of is something they’re in the middle of doing”.

ryeash
7 years ago

@Binjabreel

That’s why I started responding to them with AutoFill and/or utter nonsense. I’m fairly certain word got around that I was a troll, because they stopped responding to my tweets. I have zero problems with that, and I got to amuse myself for awhile. Win-win 🙂

samantha
7 years ago

To anyone who thinks that aspie is an insult:

My best friend and sister-from-other-parents is an extremely high functioning autist and the president of a local organization that educates the public about autism and provides services and such for autistic folk and their families and friends. It is she who, with great patience and kindness, has taught me about autism. According to her, aspie is NOT an insult and even most low functioning autistic folk can, and do, learn basic courtesy.

I seriously doubt the autism of cameralady. From what I have read, it is my opinion (and ONLY my opinion) that she is using this as a way to get away with behavior that is, to say the least, horrid.

Policy of Madness
Policy of Madness
7 years ago

It honestly does not matter if she has autism or not, and I don’t know that speculation one way or the other is profitable. Her neurotypicality status is irrelevant to the fact that she is a terrible person. Neurotypical y/n and terrible y/n form a 2×2 grid in which all cells are filled with people.

Bina
Bina
7 years ago

You people are mocking an autistic person with a whole article and a comment saying that “she has issues”.

I hope you’re real fucking proud of yourselves.

Oh, fuck off, asswipe. Lesbianism + autism does not an excuse make. Harassment is harassment no matter who the harasser is. Or what their personal issues are. It’s an ACTION, not an identity.

And for what this is worth, I’m gonna third Luz and Seraph here, and say that this one smells like sweaty dude-socks behind a very thin shield. I know a lot of lesbians, and a number of people on the autism spectrum, and even some who are both. Precisely NONE of them would ever pull shit like this. If anything, they tend to be avoidant rather than harassing. This behavior is NOT consistent with being LGBT or autistic.

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