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These Men's Rights Activists and GamerGaters get off — literally — by fantasizing about sexually humiliating feminists.

Every MRAs not-so-secret fantasy. (From a vintage cigar ad.)
Every MRAs not-so-secret fantasy. (From a vintage cigar ad.)

[TRIGGER WARNING: Discussion of rape, violent misogyny]

Today, the easy winner in my informal “Worst Thing I Saw On The Internet” contest is a horrendous little hangout for dudes with a very particular sexual fetish: they like to fantasize about raping and sexually humiliating feminists.

The Breaking Feminist Superheroines subreddit (r/breakfeminazis), with 865 subscribers, describes itself as

A Fantasy BDSM Subreddit devoted to a Supervillian who enslaves, degrades, and humiliates Feminist Superheroines to teach them their place as women

Some of these “feminist superheroines” are mentioned by name. The top two posts in the subreddit right now link to badly photoshopped fake porn pics of Anita Sarkeesian.

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Another of the top posts is a story in which a TV news anchor named “Rachel” – presumably Rachel Maddow – is cavity-searched against her will by a Sherriff.

Most of the other “superheroines” remain anonymous, probably because the bulk of posts in the subreddit consist of BDSM fetish porn repurposed into antifeminist fetish porn through the use of lurid headlines:

The Feminist political prisoner is awakened from her sleep to be dragged by her hair to her daily fucking by MRA prison guards

Ex-Husbands line up to apply a paddling to the ass of the Feminist Divorce Attorney who had ruined their marriages

The Misogynist Activist gloats as he enjoys the abundant company of the sex he despises and has brought so much misery to

Clearly, the fantasies described and depicted in the subreddit aren’t only sexual; they’re derived, in large part, from the political and social fantasies of Men’s Rights Activists and other manosphere misogynists.

This is hardly surprising, considering the people behind the subreddit. One of the subreddit’s mods, and its most active contributor, seems to consider himself an MRA. He calls himself mravidz, which I can only assume is short for MRA vids, and his submissions often feature MRAs enjoying their new supremacy over women – including one in which an MRA, after a lifetime “struggl[ing] against militant Feminism [had] achieved total victory, [with] former Radical activists serv[ing] obediently as foot-rests.”

The other mod, oxymuncha, is the founder of TumblrInAction (an anti-”Social Justice Warrior” subreddit with 137,000 subscribers) and mods four other TumblrInAction spinoff subs. He’s also a mod of KotakuInAction (the largest pro-GamerGate hangout on Reddit) and the Gor subreddit (a porn subreddit inspired by an infamous series of male supremacist SF novels).

Indeed, the central fantasy underlying the subreddit – a postapocalyptic utopia in which men reassert their dominance and control over their former feminist rulers and women in general – has long been a favorite topic of discussion amongst Men’s Righsters and Red Pillers. There’s a certain kind of MRA who gets as excited as any doomsday prepper when talk turns to what many MRAs see as the impending apocalypse – when society collapses and women are forced to come begging back to men for protection and guidance.

“Men will notice a decided shift in women’s once hostile attitude towards them,” the MRA message board regular Keyster wrote in the comments on The Spearhead.

They will be actively engaged in seeking out male protectors and openly using sexual allure to attract them as mates. Men are so much better at defending themselves from bad guys, so you’ll want one with you if you’re a woman.

The Breaking Feminist Superheroines subreddit turns this rather widespread MRA fantasy into an explicitly sexualized vision of male (MRA) supremacy and female (feminist) submission, and adds some science-fictiony overtones to it all.

The subreddit’s sidebar spells out the basic narrative:

A Historical Chronicle of the Gender Civil Wars, in which Radical Feminists finally push Men too far, leading to a hot War of the Sexes in which the forces of the Feminist Menace are smashed in battle. What would a hypothetically constructed world in which Feminism has been decisively defeated, and women have been returned to their natural condition as Slaves look like?

Apparently for some of the contributors it looks a lot like a world in which Anita Sarkeesian’s face has been badly photoshopped onto porn pictures.

But others on the subreddit are a little more, er, imaginative. In a post titled “How would you tame a Feminist Leader you captured in the Gender Civil Wars?,” a contributor who calls himself femshit asks for advice in coming up with fantasy scenarios.

Suppose the Gender Polarization continues along current lines into a full blown Gender Civil War, a hot war of the sexes. Males are sick of emasculation and revolt against Feminist Totalitarianism and their mangina white knight allies.

Males quickly establish tactical supremacy. And the only advantage females have, is that MRA forces use rubber bullets, so they can capture Feminist POWs and transform them into cuntslaves.

MRA forces capture the Feminist Senate Hall of the Herpublic. And you are assigned one of the captured Feminist Senators as a War Prize. What steps do you take to break her in and teach her to accept her gender inferiority?

She is totally at your mercy, but still spouting tumblr SJW about gender equality and how her spirit will never be broken.

what are some ways to humiliate and degrade her feminist ideals of equality? how do you show her just how weak her soft feminine body really is?

how do you get her to learn the inherent inferiority of her cunt sex?

A commenter called cuntamer responds:

As a leader she’ll need to be held accountable for her crimes against men during the war. She should be put on trial in the local stadium and made a spectacle of as any man with a grievance comes forward and testifies against her. After all the intimate and humiliating details of her life are read aloud as evidence, and testimony is over, she will be sentenced appropriately for her infractions. The trial will conclude with a ceremonial stripping and burning of her and her colleagues clothing and worldly possessions as they are led off in chains.

I’ll spare you the elaborate rape fantasy that follows.

While most of the “stories” in the subreddit consist of little more than elaborate headlines, there’s a separate BreakFeminaziFavs Tumblr blog [NSFW] in which some of the fantasies are developed in more detail.

In one vignette, a new widow is turned over to “the bloodsucking loanshark who had driven her husband to suicide.” When she resists,

He handed to her the MRA Civil Code and to her horror it was all true. She would not even be given the mercy of attending her own husband’s funeral. Instead she was to be taken away immediately to become the fuck-slave of her husband’s worst enemy. Her black mourning lingerie just aroused the beast more.

In another, a former Feminist assassin becomes a pregnant slave to a mansplaining master with a fetish for Evo Psych:

For him the ideological victory over Feminist Science was more important than petty abuse. 

He lectured the Feminist Ideologue like a little schoolgirl, on how her strange cravings were easily explained by Evolutionary Psychology. How Cavemen would slaughter entire tribes and take the women as booty. Women’s entire psychology was shaped to serve the children of their Master’s. Their taste buds were totally warped to protect their babies. … She no longer existed for herself but for his child. She was but a robot fulfilling the needs of the fetus. 

Again and again in these little stories, “uppity” women are brought low by men they had oppressed or insulted. A “fallen” female CEO is subjected to spankings at the hands of her employees; a Feminist philosophy professor is humiliated by “Frat Bros [with] a more intrinsic understanding of the Ethics of Nietzsche”; a “Christian Fundamentalist Congresswoman” is raped and impregnated by the “Atheist Liberation Front.” An Occupy Wall Street protester is forced to serve drinks “for her Wall Street masters” wearing little more than a ball gag.

Paul Elam of A Voice for Men famously told one feminist that “the idea of fucking your shit up gives me an erection.”

Apparently he’s not the only MRA who feels that way.

 

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Kevin K
Kevin K
6 years ago

The concept that a woman can be a feminist and be in a fulfilling relationship never occurs to them, does it?

ikanreed
ikanreed
6 years ago

@Kevin K

No, nor does the notion of a man being a feminist and being in a fulfilling relationship. They have stereotypes, that they use as strawmen to argue against, and calling them on their stereotypes just gets you stereotyped and strawmanned.

They’re pretty sad people.

LurkyLurkerson
LurkyLurkerson
6 years ago

This is horrifying. :/

Interesting, oxymuncha is also EvilFuckingSociopath, who once tried to grift his entire subreddit into a pyramid scheme:

http://www.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/28z82a/tia_mod_attempts_to_promote_a_multilevel/

So, not only in charge of a gross, rapey, hate sub, but a stellar example of ethics, too!

SittieKitty
6 years ago

The movement totally stands for equality. Not at all misogynistic.

Nathan Hevenstone
6 years ago

All aboard the Nope Train to Fuckthatville…

C.S.Strowbridge
C.S.Strowbridge
6 years ago

And they pretend GamerGate isn’t about hating women.

hellkell
hellkell
6 years ago

They’re so sure they’d win a gender war, all evidence to the contrary. These assholes can’t do much but type one-handed.

“Herpublic” sounds like something you need a cream to clear up.

SittieKitty
6 years ago

So to speak out against the inevitable “how dare you shame someone’s sexual preferences/fantasies/blah blah blah!!”… I’ve got nothing against domination fantasies, or even rape fantasies, but that’s so obviously not what this is about that it’s laughable. Paraphilias exist, and as long as you’re finding a healthy way to express those (ex: rape fantasies should be played out between consenting adults or remain fantasies), whatevs, no big deal, power to you. But this – not healthy. Not a healthy way to express it. It’s not about the fantasy itself, as much as I’ve (often) heard people say it is and that “you’re shaming them for their sexual preferences T.T”. The content, while I am actually totally judging them for it, isn’t the issue – the issue is their desire to put it out there. There’s a distinct difference between having a fantasy, and having a need to share that fantasy with the world due to some insecurity and/or control/powerplay. That’s what this is. This isn’t just a rape fantasy, this is a “I have a need to tell you about it and show it to the world because maybe they’ll feel shitty about it” fantasy. Otherwise – the sub would be private, or otherwise closed, and expressed in er, slightly healthier terms. These people genuinely believe that the fantasies should be real life, at least in part, and it’s not just porn done for sexual gratification, it’s done for self-satisfaction over their insecurities and hatred; there’s a huge issue with that.

jbgarner58
6 years ago

Sick. Really, that’s all that can be said about this.

SittieKitty
6 years ago

Haha, hellkell, I literally did not understand it was HERpublic until your comment, when I read David’s thing I was like “who the fuck comes up with names like this and why would feminists name their hall after herpes??”.

Jules
Jules
6 years ago

I once thought The Handmaid’s Tale was extreme. I was wrong.

SittieKitty
6 years ago

No joke: Handmaid’s Tale terrifies me. I have no words to express how much that book frightens me.

Margaret Atwood is amazing at that actually. Half her shit invokes genuine horror in me, not least of which because it’s all so plausible.

vbillings
6 years ago

That whole time I was reading about the Herpublic I was like, “Actually, could we make a comic book about this?” but less rape-y, obviously.

They’ve taken my beloved post-apoc genre and sullied it. That can never be forgiven.

Lids
6 years ago

“We want to force women to be subservient to us and rape them and force them to bear our children and be our slaves but we don’t hate women and our fantasies of debasing feminists totes is just proof of how far they have pushed us!!!!111! We aren’t a hate movement for the last time it’s perfectly normal to actively fantasize about this stuff!!!”

Lids
6 years ago

Wtf happened to my name there. Please don’t approve my last comment my name looks creepy af.

naira8
6 years ago

Well! That was disturbing!

I agree with SittieKitty in that I’m not particularly against dom/sub fantasies or rape fantasies. What freaks the living hell out of me is that these fantasies go along with all the other NOT-fantasy world views.

It is one thing to fantasize about rape, but when you pair that with a worldview that specifically says that rape victims want it or that rape can’t REALLY happen (because reasons) or that rape is some how one person’s right to do to another, well…now that rape fantasy is in a WHOLE different, creepifying context.

That’s fucking scary (as is Handmaid’s Tale). Fantasies are great and wonderful, but when violent fantasies are one facet of a violent, fucked up view of the world, then there’s something to be deeply scared of.

AnonaMiss
6 years ago

My Poe’s Law sense is tingling. I have a feeling that this was set up as a joke by MRAs, in the “This is what feminists really think MRAs want, lol!” vein. Compare the dystopian setting of Harrison Bergeron, which was Vonnegut’s caricature of “This is what conservatives really think liberals want, lol!” (Please pardon the comparison – I don’t mean to insult Vonnegut with the comparison, as he was a genius and these guys are idiots. It’s only the intent I’m comparing, not the execution)

Maybe that’s me being overly optimistic, but lines like this:

For him the ideological victory over Feminist Science was more important than petty abuse. He lectured the Feminist Ideologue like a little schoolgirl, on how her strange cravings were easily explained by Evolutionary Psychology.

That doesn’t sound like something anyone would put into a real smut story. People don’t get off on “ideological victories.” And “Feminist Science” being contrasted with “Evolutionary Psychology”? If that were written in earnest, it would be an admission that evolutionary psychology isn’t science, and would also indicate that the writer believed that real science was on the feminists’ side, which is a bizarre thing for an MRA to claim. Generally they try to claim that science is on their side.

kirbywarp
kirbywarp
6 years ago

This isn’t simply BDSM or rape fantasy, it’s absurdly political in nature. These are dudes fixated on particular real-life individuals, which is skeevy enough. It wouldn’t be quite as bad if I thought it was consent that prevented them from trying to act out their fantasies rather than fear of the law, but no. That’s why they’re so invested in a big war or some apocalypse situation, so that one barrier won’t exist.

kirbywarp
kirbywarp
6 years ago

@AnonaMiss:

I have no trouble believing it’s real. I’ve seen similar stories that I read through out of morbid curiosity, and I’ve read plenty of smut where the whole point is some ideological victory that devolves into sexual punishment.

Usually it focuses on punishing women rather than punishing feminists, but the leap isn’t all that hard to make.

ej
ej
6 years ago

You know it’s bad when I feel the need to say “fuck you” to my computer, which I did when I got to the comment about the rubber bullets. This is not OK. Get over yourself. Women are people, not holes for you to fuck.
(Apologies for the swearing)

Even though I’m not into BDSM, I have to say that I am embarrassed for the entire BDSM community that this carries the same label. Bondage, submission and pain between consenting adults is fine, if that’s what you want to do. BDSM is CONSENSUAL, and is in no way trying to “break” one of the partners.

The trash from this subreddit consists of male power fantasies. Period. It is a gender-swapped version of what they (wrongly) believe feminists want to achieve.

blanktie
blanktie
6 years ago

This is disgusting. Why can’t all MRAs be MGTOW?

hellkell
hellkell
6 years ago

AnonaMiss: this is completely believable. These guys aren’t smart enough to do satire, whenever they try, they fail miserably.

Karalora
Karalora
6 years ago

The concept that a woman can be a feminist and be in a fulfilling relationship never occurs to them, does it?

No, nor does the notion of a man being a feminist and being in a fulfilling relationship.

I suspect the concept of a fulfilling relationship itself is foreign to them. They can only imagine men and women as adversaries. A “happy” heterosexual relationship, to them, is one where the women has accepted defeat. If the man is not interested in defeating her? He’s a pussywhipped mangina – she has defeated him. They literally cannot imagine equality of the sexes on any level from the interpersonal to the society-wide.

Kane Thari
6 years ago

As I was reading this, it really reminded me of what I’ve heard of the Handmaid’s Tale (I haven’t read it yet, but might for school). These fantasies are sick and disturbing. What is wrong with these people?

zenith
zenith
6 years ago

The repurposing of fetish imagery by misogynists is so exhausting to me. I know there’s no way to police it; you can’t control how other people experience or reinterpret your media. But as many people have pointed out there’s a nuanced distinction to be made between BDSM paraphilias and whatever the fuck this is. I see this in mainstream porn a lot too and it makes me crazy–fetish tropes being lifted from fetish contexts and turned into a normalizing view of heterosexual politics. No, boys. BDSM is always non-normative and happily so. Don’t mistake that for a vision of dominance and humiliation that’s absolute and intrinsic to gender relations.

Not that this makes me an expert, but I’m an assault survivor, a feminist, and a (submissive) kink activist, and I have never struggled with those identities until encountering crap like this. Which makes me madder than anything, because these guys are taking away something that’s enriched my life and helped me to heal and turning it into something petty and disgusting.

Rabukurafuto
Rabukurafuto
6 years ago

Compare the dystopian setting of Harrison Bergeron, which was Vonnegut’s caricature of “This is what conservatives really think liberals want, lol!”

If only more libertarians understood that.

Ellesar
6 years ago

And the manosphere tries to say ‘there is no such thing as rape culture’!
This is rape culture, fantasy section.

weirwoodtreehugger
6 years ago

Mourning lingerie? What’s that?

Aerinea
Aerinea
6 years ago

Eww! Eww! Eww! That was the least erotic BDSM stuff I’ve read ever. Real turn-off. I’m going to have to bleach my brain now.

andiexist
andiexist
6 years ago

You know, if these guys were decent human beings, they might have a chance of meeting a woman who actually likes this kinda stuff. Possibly even the weird political part.

andiexist
andiexist
6 years ago

You know, if these guys were decent human beings, they might have a chance of meeting a woman who actually likes this kinda stuff.

But, people, consent. Is necessary. If you want to act out strange political fantasies (Occupy fantasy, I’m looking at you) then you *NEED* to respect the person you’re doing it with.

andiexist
andiexist
6 years ago

Great, somehow I managed to post the unfinished bit too. >_<

andiexist
andiexist
6 years ago

@ej (sorry for so many post in a row but UGH cellphone)

The “breaking” thing, from what I’ve seen, is a pretty common fantasy. But this is an UTTERLY horrible version.

becausescience
becausescience
6 years ago

My Poe’s Law sense is tingling. I have a feeling that this was set up as a joke by MRAs

Elliot Rodger wrote about wanting to enslave and torture women in the manifesto he wrote before he went out and tried to murder a bunch of women (and actually did murder several women and men).

I’m sure enslaving and sexually humiliating women as “punishment” for “not knowing their place” seems absurd to a lot of people, but as David pointed out in the post, it’s a recurring theme that’s common in a lot of manosphere writing. If it were a joke, it would be an unsettlingly common and particularly unfunny one.

Xanith
Xanith
6 years ago

@andiexist
That’s really the problem, isn’t it? The don’t respect women so they can’t possibly have a healthy sexual relationship with a woman. It’s depressing.

kirbywarp
kirbywarp
6 years ago

To them, this isn’t a fantasy. It’s what they want (and expect) reality to actually be.

Nathan Hevenstone
6 years ago

I hope this will count as brain bleach… with a side of politics thrown in:

andiexist
andiexist
6 years ago

These people make 50 Shades of Grey look like a feminist utopia. 🙁

Nathan Hevenstone
6 years ago

And if that doesn’t work, here’s an oldie but a goodie:

grumpyoldnurse
6 years ago

Handmaid’s Tale is scarier to me, if only because it’s more plausible. When are the feminazis actually planning to take over the world? When will that happen? When will anyone ever actually call their nation-state and its governance system a Herpublic? When are we actually going to round up all the men and literally enslave them? These things have to happen before the Great MRA Revolt can start. Handmaid’s Tale, on the other hand, can happen anytime enough fascists get together.

Also, in a true post-apocalyptic scenario, aren’t there just as likely to be all sorts of random groups of people struggling to survive? Why would women be throwing themselves at MRA’s to get by? I know I’m too old to have that be a realistic plan for myself, so wouldn’t I, and other mean old ladies like me, be more likely band together to save our families by killing any group, regardless of gender composition, that wandered onto our turf?

Xanith
Xanith
6 years ago

This kind of subreddit is even more insidious than that subreddit that was openly promoting “corrective rape” David posted about not that long ago, too. Since that one was blatantly encouraging criminal activity, it’s easier to protest. With something like this, they could just run away saying “it’s only a fantasy!”

becausescience
becausescience
6 years ago

Males are sick of emasculation and revolt against Feminist Totalitarianism and their mangina white knight allies.

So presumably any men or boys who disagree with mras, redpillers and MGTFOs would also be targets of this violent revolt? So their utopia is a world where women can look forward to being enslaved, sexually humiliated and raped, and any men these guys decide they don’t like can look forward to being murdered. Wow, that’s some great “equality” and “men’s rights activism”, you got going on there, guys.

Brooker
Brooker
6 years ago

Why would women be throwing themselves at MRA’s to get by? I know I’m too old to have that be a realistic plan for myself, so wouldn’t I, and other mean old ladies like me, be more likely band together to save our families by killing any group, regardless of gender composition, that wandered onto our turf?

Because the MRAs have all the imagination and the creativity of musty Styrofoam. Their satire is stale, and even their porn is stale (and creepy).

Good apocalyptic fiction is actually a genre I enjoy a lot, as there is room for many interesting stories about the struggles of a community against the dangers of the new world, for the different types of societies that can emerge from a disaster, for characters who are pushed to their physical and emotional limits and for some social commentary (when it’s not too on the nose).

The people who wrote these post-apocalyptic fantasies are only able to project their twisted ideologies in a sexual context about power and revenge.

If they weren’t so icky, I’d call these fantasies uninspired, boring and even unintentionally ridiculous. The sentence “Frat Bros [with] a more intrinsic understanding of the Ethics of Nietzsche” actually made me chuckle for how corny it is.

The scary thing is that those people actually believe in the “values” exposed in their fantasies.

grumpyoldnurse
6 years ago

I think the great MRA revolt is not quite as plausible as this:

Robert
Robert
6 years ago

Kane – I believe it’s fear. They fear being powerless. Power fantasies are like OxyContin – they temporarily mask the fear. When it comes back, they need a higher dose. It reminds me of Tom Riddle – the only cure for his fear was making others afraid of HIM. And, as Kaa the Serpent reminds us, Anger is the egg of Fear.

Luzbelitx
6 years ago

Oh, dark twists of my mind!

I have been beer-talking with some BDSM friends about how Feminst Femdom would look like -training subs to be also feminists whilez/i> everyone is having fun.

Theses dudes are centuries “ahead”. Damn.

ej
ej
6 years ago

@andiexist

The “breaking” thing, from what I’ve seen, is a pretty common fantasy. But this is an UTTERLY horrible version.

“Breaking” within the context of the BDSM scene I can understand, but they are talking about breaking and punishing women outside of that context, which is horrible. Consent and respect are essential parts of playing out those kinds of fantasies and these guys don’t seem to understand either.

Luzbelitx
6 years ago

Waddafuk did I type!

Luzbelitx
6 years ago

Re: “Braking”

That’s also a commonly used term by human traffickers for “forcing women (usually teenagers) into prostitution”.

Luzbelitx
6 years ago

I meant BREAKING!!!

I’ll take some time away from the keyboard now.

Maybe.

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