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Ladies, your weight is somehow a Men's Rights issue, and five other lessons drawn from six terrible A Voice for Men memes

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Subtlety is not considered a virtue at AVFM

Well, I took another look at the A Voice for Men Facebook page. Lo and behold, their little meme makers have been working overtime! So here’s a little gallery of some of their latest work.

I have to admit that these aren’t quite as baffling as the John Galt meme originals we looked at a couple of weeks ago, or these also-very-confusing AVFM memes I posted last spring. But they are pretty darn terrible, in all respects.

Click on the pics to see the originals on Facebook, complete with thoughtful commentary from AVFM’s fans (except in the case of this next one, which I found reposted on an anti-MRA Facebook).

 

"No fat chicks" is apparently a very important Men's Rights issue
“No fat chicks” is apparently a very important Men’s Rights issue
If a guy "can't control
Wait, what? I was going to write out a clever caption for this but I’m not sure I can cover all the layers of wrongness and WTFuckery in this meme in a mere caption.
Yeah, because Marvel's male version of Thor was exactly what the ancient Norse people would have wanted.
Yeah, because Marvel’s male version of Thor was exactly what the ancient Norse people would have wanted.
No misogyny at AVFM, no siree!
No misogyny at AVFM, no siree!
Hey, a meme just for me, by AVFM meme king "John Galt." Apparently MRAs have only ever watched two movies, The Matrix and Fight Club.
Hey, a meme just for me, by AVFM meme king “John Galt.” Apparently MRAs have only ever watched two movies, The Matrix and Fight Club.

As always, if any of you are inspired to make EVEN MORE TERRIBLE AVFM memes, please post them in the comments below!

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humourlessRadicalFeminazi
humourlessRadicalFeminazi
5 years ago

I honestly don’t get their obsession with big red. This one time, this lady did something “bad” to us, and we’re never going to let anyone else forget it. It doesn’t bode well for Anita Sarkeesian or any of the other current targets of their hate being able to get on with their lives anytime soon.

fruitloopsie
fruitloopsie
5 years ago

SittieKitty

“Marriage has always been bad.”

They think women who don’t get married before they are 24 are no good and yes you are right they just want to control everything.

“Women eating mcdonalds and not pleasing my peen is so much worse than rape.” FTFY.”

Thank you

lacerta viridis
5 years ago

@SittieKitty I kind of read it as ‘well if you’re not going to shame fat people then you ALSO shouldn’t shame men who sexually assault because they’re totes exactly the same thing aha CHECKMATE FEMINISTS’

Although as several people have pointed out, the whole thing kind of falls apart when you realise that being fat, which affects only your own body and harms nobody else in any way at all, is in absolutely no way equivalent to forcing yourself on someone else and traumatising them. Or when you remember that the MRM actually seems to be pretty obsessed with shaming fat women (fat men don’t seem to bother them for some strange, mysterious reason).

kirbywarp
kirbywarp
5 years ago

@humourlessRadicalFeminazi:

You figured it out when you called it an obsession. Reddit has a similar thing where there’s this image of a kiss cam where a dude kisses his beer and the woman next to him leans away. Not only are the comments sections always full of hate, but the exact same image is re-posted practically on a weekly basis, with the comments full of a fury that never loses its intensity.

I guess there are so few examples of things they can get angry about that they have to latch on to and exploit the hell out of whatever they find. Their lives are so devoid of conflict that something that might be a micro-aggression to an unprivileged group feels like actual aggression to them.

kirbywarp
kirbywarp
5 years ago

@lacerta viridis:

(fat men don’t seem to bother them for some strange, mysterious reason).

Unless those men are feminists, or otherwise progressive.

humourlessRadicalFeminazi
humourlessRadicalFeminazi
5 years ago

@ellesar,
I think the popularity of these films with mras might be because they latch onto the narrative of the geeky isolated loner who ends up on a cliff or a skyscraper with a band of devoted followers and absolute insight into the illusions of the world beneath his feet due to nothing he has built but merely his unique clarity of thought. I think the idea of the red pill is not some fortunate useful image from a film they like but actually part of is fundamental appeal. They’re basically so confused by the world that thinking they’re secretly geniuses is all they have.

fruitloopsie
fruitloopsie
5 years ago

Sittiekitty
Are you new here? Did you get a welcome package?

And on the poster it’s not shaming fat people it’s shaming fat women. They don’t like women that doesn’t please their peen and all the times that they say men are not rapists to feminists they turn around exactly saying men are rapists but only because of womyn.

They want women to take the blame and control them. I hope that made sense I mean my explanation. I guess that’s what it’s saying.

humourlessRadicalFeminazi
“I honestly don’t get their obsession with big red. This one time, this lady did something “bad” to us”

I think you solved it. Btw did you get a welcome package?

humourlessRadicalFeminazi
humourlessRadicalFeminazi
5 years ago

@fruitloopsie:
yes, I did get a welcome package! Thank you! burning the scented fucking candles as I type.

fruitloopsie
fruitloopsie
5 years ago

humourlessRadicalFeminazi
Yes! Burn! Mwa ha ha! *ehem* what is your favorite scent?

humourlessRadicalFeminazi
humourlessRadicalFeminazi
5 years ago

…ok, clarity of thought is probably a bit of a stretch in Neo’s case. But they both have this theme of “power” through epiphanic enlightenment. They don’t have to do all that mucky personal growth and coping with failure and cooperating with other humans crap.

Sarah
Sarah
5 years ago

The analogy is not quite complete because ‘overeating how-dare-you-exist-while-not-thin’ women do not have entire websites devoted at hating food, calling them all kinds of insults and slurs, discussing how evil and stupid food is, and accusing it of trying to get all their money and run with an other alpha-fat-lady and keep them without dinner. If anything, any-size overeating people probably like food. (Not to mention the tiny detail that women are sentient beings with rights and agency and food is… food.)
Also, denying them sex is as bad as starving people. The UN must have been overtaken by feminists because they want to end world hunger but nobody seems to care about the sad boners of poor misogynists.
It would be funny if it wasn’t so disgusting.

kittehserf - MOD
5 years ago

fruitloopsie, SittieKitty’s a returning Mammotheer! 🙂

Sarah
Sarah
5 years ago

hrf, that movie-appeal reading is pretty spot on

humourlessRadicalFeminazi
humourlessRadicalFeminazi
5 years ago

@fruitloopsie,
Well, i’m going very subtle so as not to upset the cats. Faint wafts of triple distilled man tears and a topnote of whooer penguin.

sunnysombrera
5 years ago

Unless those men are feminists, or otherwise progressive.

Oh yeah, I forgot about David’s apparent “bitch tits”.

humourlessRadicalFeminazi
humourlessRadicalFeminazi
5 years ago

But Sarah, that salad was totally asking for it, dressed like that! 🙂

SittieKitty
5 years ago

@fruitloopsie, I did, last year. I’ve been away. 🙂 Thanks though.

Seconding the MRAs are totally okay with fat-shaming men if they don’t hold the same ideals as them (as with David).

lacerta viridis
5 years ago

@kirbywarp and SittieKitty – yes, good point. Though it seems to be done in a different way – kind of a ‘well ur FAT OMG therefore for some reason your views are invalid’ thing and less a ‘how dare you even exist while not being pleasing to my boner’ issue.

Chie Satonaka
Chie Satonaka
5 years ago

It’s been a long-held joke among my friends that there are two general types of people who watch “Fight Club” — the ones who understand the social commentary, and those who just think it’s really cool because of all the fighting. MRAs clearly fall into the second camp.

fruitloopsie
fruitloopsie
5 years ago

Kittehserf
“fruitloopsie, SittieKitty’s a returning Mammotheer! :)”

Welcome anyway!

humourlessRadicalFeminazi
@fruitloopsie,
“Well, i’m going very subtle so as not to upset the cats.”

Ah very smart and kind to our overlords

“Faint wafts of triple distilled man tears and a topnote of whooer penguin.”

That sounds marvelous.

vaiyt
5 years ago

Gloria Steinem, Hillary Clinton, Anita Sarkeesian, and Michelle Obama.

What was that about women being successful precluding the necessity of feminism again?

Apparently, they’ve never heard of rule 63.

Of course they did. Like with everything else, Manospherians only like Rule 63 when it’s meant to fabricate more objects to tickle their boners. Being reminded that women exist for more than that is misandry.

What I can’t stand, or understand, is why the manosphere clings to The Matrix and Fight Club and yet are so conservative.

They feature manly men being cool rebels and doing manly man things. Whoosh! Pow! Trenchcoats! Sweaty fisticuffs! Katanas!

naltia
naltia
5 years ago

Wait, that witch meme is real!? I thought it was satire. *boggle*

kittehserf - MOD
5 years ago

Yep, you can never underestimate the stupid with MRA memes.

thebewilderness
thebewilderness
5 years ago

The women have destroyed all the heroic real life men with their feminism so all the “real” men have left is Fight Club and the Matrix. They have nothing else. Oh, and vidya games.

YoullNeverGuess
5 years ago

I don’t think it’s sweaty crystal ball. It’s a cratered moon or planet. I agree a non-sweating crystal ball would have made more sense.

YoullNeverGuess
5 years ago

a*

Sarah
Sarah
5 years ago

But Sarah, that salad was totally asking for it, dressed like that! 🙂

ROFL

twincats
twincats
5 years ago

The fact that it also distresses these precious chaps who opine that 99.9% of the female population of the world aren’t good enough for their boners is the icing on the cake.

I have never been more proud to be a fat, middle-aged, boner-killing FEEEEEMALE!

*waves sparklers around*

Bogdan Cvetkovic
5 years ago

They feature manly men being cool rebels and doing manly man things. Whoosh! Pow! Trenchcoats! Sweaty fisticuffs! Katanas!

The irony is that MRAs are anything but.

Mister Misogynist
Mister Misogynist
5 years ago

The men’s rights movement represents true feminism. MGTOW represents the total and complete rejection (and future collapse) of female privilege. MGTOW are an evolution of MRAs.

MGTOW are the future of men. Across the globe, in all developed nations, men are opting out. Why? To understand why – you have to understand the power of projection. Ever have someone do something really bad and then blame the result of their bad behavior on you? If you have, then you understand projection.

Here’s an example. This example can be applied to any number of things that women blame on men:

The Blame: Men are obsessed with porn. This is causing a breakdown in marriage. Men are sex obsessed pigs. Women are forced into prostitution. Women wear revealing clothes because the patriarchy makes them.

The Truth: Women take naked pictures of themselves and post them online because they’re obsessed with themselves and want others to be obsessed with them as well. Women wear butt floss, high cut skirts and low cut blouses to lure in naive, ignorant men to pay for their drinks and meals. Women sell themselves sexually to gain monetarily. Women use their bodies to gain favoritism in employment and education and to avoid traditional male labor. Women always claim victimization because they know the naive, ignorant cowardly white knights will fall to their knees for a sniff.

Boys should be raised to “not be traditional men”. Boys should be raised into men that understand the centuries of social programming, brainwashing and manipulation that has gone into making them disposable utilities. Boys should be raised to reject the white knight role and to reject gynocentrism.

Look at the BS movies that always put men in the position of sacrificing their lives for women. There are thousands of these movies. That’s some deeply, psychologically damaging stuff both men and women are doing to boys. It’s psychological abuse against boys and men. When a man doesn’t act in a way that’s self-sacrificing when a woman’s life is at risk, how is that portrayed in the media? These are obvious examples of self imposed misandry by men and women upon men and boys.

The most important thing to teach boys is how gynocentric shaming and projection work. It’s also very important to teach boys how men help women proliferate gynocentric shaming and projection.

Let them have it. Let women have all they want. Let them fight their own fires, their own wars and be humiliated and discarded with the same lack of empathy and compassion that men get. Let them build their own infrastructure and housing. Let women die by the tens upon tens of millions in wars for men’s and men’s children’s lives. “Men’s and men’s children’s lives”. Let women die homeless post divorce. Let women be rejected from homeless shelters in favor of men. Let women be stripped from all wealth post divorce. Let men get privileged status in college and employment.

Cut off all donations to sperm banks. Women are starting to get the massage that they can get the best genes through sperm banks and have children later in life, without men. Men need to stop donating to these banks and these banks need to be blown into oblivion (by whom, I know not). That I have billions of sperms and that somehow makes women’s fewer numbers of eggs more valuable than my sperms is a dangerous train of thought. You just watch how quickly that calculation can change. You just watch how quickly revolution can take place.

That women consider a sperm bank the equal of men is pure bigotry, sexism and represents the precursor to Hitler’s vision of establishing a “pure race”. It represents women’s hatred of men. You know what’s funny? Women are 10,000,000,000 times more misandric than men ever considered themselves misogynistic. Ever hear of a man wanting to establish an egg bank? Never, right? A man would never consider storing up women’s eggs in a plan to eradicate women. Further proof than men are naive and ignorant white knights. Women actually think about how they can be impregnated without having a man involved. They think about this process in terms of sperm banks. Think men. Think. Sperm banks represent the feminazi ideal of future male disposabilty. Men won’t be needed if trillions of their sperm are stored for future IVFs, right? Sperm banks represent the feminazi’s goal for the end of men.

The end of men and the rise of the FemiNazi can be achieved through sperm banks. Take note, you naive, ignorant men.

slivarth
5 years ago

I am not an expert on Dark Age Norse societies, but from what I know, those MRAs would be quite shocked (if not appaled) by how women were perceived by Vikings. I’d even risk a statement that they (Vikings not MRAs) would treat a female fighter-goddess as something… ordinary?

vaiyt
5 years ago

Vikings were much more open-minded than MRAs, and their women didn’t take shit from nobody.

jparsons42
jparsons42
5 years ago

Slivarth, sort of – Norse women (as long as they weren’t slaves; Vikings were heavily involved in the slave trade, usually abducting and selling Eastern Europeans during raiding trips down major rivers) did have some rights that women in most of Europe didn’t. They could inherit property, sue for divorce and retain their dowries in case of divorce. They didn’t really go out raping and pillaging with the boys, though, nor can I think of a female “war” goddess.

Fred_the_Dog
5 years ago

Totally off topic, but OMG exciting — a potential fix for spinal cord injuries resulting in paralysis!

http://www.bbc.com/news/health-29645760

Not cute, per se, but a form of brain bleach none-the-less if anyone needed some.

rikalous
rikalous
5 years ago

@jparson: Freya was associated with war, in addition to her more famous love-and-beauty thing. Valkyries would also qualify as war goddesses if you stretched the definition a bit. On the mortal end, there were those stories about shieldmaidens, and there are Viking graves where women were buried with weapons.

Fred_the_Dog
5 years ago

Sorry, I’m going to go jump around and squee for a bit.

slivarth
5 years ago

@ jparsons42 – what about Freyja and her army of fallen heroes gathering in Folkvangr?

ktrantingredhead
5 years ago

It’s funny because I see fat men on MRA sites complain about “creep shaming” all the time.

“Just because I’m a fat guy, I get called a creep.”

…maybe it’s NOT because you’re fat. Maybe it’s because you’re a horrible person.

jparsons42
jparsons42
5 years ago

There are some powerful women in Norse mythology, but I don’t think Norse society was exactly a feminist utopia, either. There’s also the fact that “Vikings” were not monolithic in the slightest – it’s a term we use now looking back, not one that had a specific homogeneous culture, really. The “Vikings” I’m most familiar with were the ones who colonized what’s now Russia (and gave it it’s name, from the tribe name “Rus”), and they had some not-very-nice practices, according, at least, to accounts from travelers like ibn Fadlan, like burning the wives/women of men in their boats with them after they (the men) died. In any case, women in mythology being powerful doesn’t always translate into actual power in society – in Athens, named for Athena, for instance, women didn’t have the vote, etc. etc. Ancient societies were complicated…

kittehserf - MOD
5 years ago

Fred the Dog, joining you in the squeeing! That’s amazing, wonderful stuff. Thank you for sharing that link!

kittehserf - MOD
5 years ago

Oh! And I’ve earned extra misandering points today, I think. I bought a pair of jeans I’m very happy with, in a bigger size! And at a discount!

grumpyoldnurse
grumpyoldnurse
5 years ago

@ Fred the Dog – OMG!!!!OMG!!!OMG!!!!!

[insert happy nurse dance]

Jenora Feuer
Jenora Feuer
5 years ago

There’s also the fact that “Vikings” were not monolithic in the slightest – it’s a term we use now looking back, not one that had a specific homogeneous culture, really. The “Vikings” I’m most familiar with were the ones who colonized what’s now Russia (and gave it it’s name, from the tribe name “Rus”), and they had some not-very-nice practices…

Varangians, then?

And yeah, my understanding is that ‘Viking’ was not a culture or people, ‘Viking’ was more a profession as raider.

That said, when you live in a culture that has raiding as a major aspect of it… even the ‘stay at home’ women had to know how to fight if they were the only ones at home while the raiding parties were out and somebody else decided to show up.

grumpyoldnurse
grumpyoldnurse
5 years ago

Um, anyone going to tackle the angry mister upthread? Because, um, wow. I just…

Does anyone still have a copy of “How to Even for Dummies”? Because I could sure use one.

jparsons42
jparsons42
5 years ago

Yeah, they were alternately called Varangians or Rus’. (Rus’ is what they seem to have called themselves, though.) It’s not really my area of expertise – I study Russian and Polish poetry, actually – but I had to study this stuff when I was an undergrad and later on in my early years of grad school.

It’s generally pretty hard to know what the general day-to-day living conditions of people living a thousand years ago, anyway. If people wrote anything down, it was usually about deaths, battles, etc., though there are some exceptions. And the mythologies we know are what got codified and set down, generall, in the 19th century, when everybody was all about Romanticism and the creation of nation-states (with accompanying mythologies.)

I found this article online, which might refer to the original source article about “Viking warrior women” that people are referring to. Basically, the original source article simply says that women were accompanying Vikings on raiding trips, but it doesn’t say that they were warriors. They could have been concubines or servants or anything, really.

http://www.missedinhistory.com/blog/raining-on-your-parade-about-those-women-viking-warriors/

In any case, roving raiders who were into slave trading and rape and pillaging generally strike me as pretty creepy humans…

fruitloopsie
fruitloopsie
5 years ago

Grumpyoldnurse
Not me I don’t think he’s worth it but I did get bingo!

hellkell
hellkell
5 years ago

Mr. Misogynist fails to realize that we don’t care if they GTOW, we just wish they’d fucking go already and stop with the sour grape screeds.

grumpyoldnurse
grumpyoldnurse
5 years ago

One thing, though, fruitloopsie. I do wish he had enlightened me about 10 years ago, and then Mr.Grump and I could have just gone to a sperm bank instead of doing all that f*cking. Baby-making the easy way, I tell ya!

kittehserf - MOD
5 years ago

grumpyoldnurse, nah, he’s just another frothy idiot.

fruitloopsie
fruitloopsie
5 years ago

Grumpyoldnurse
Sorry about that 🙁
But I’m glad I got to hear it so I can have a baby on my own or I can just adopt that works too. Don’t need to bring another poor soul into this horrible world. I’ll bring home children that don’t have homes of their own.