Men’s Rights activists are the only ones asking these tough questions about the recent threats against Anita Sarkeesian and other outspoken women in gaming.
1) Why isn’t everyone thanking Men’s Rights Activists for trying to keep women out of gaming?
2) Why isn’t anyone focusing on who would be the real victims of violence against Sarkeesian — teh menz?
3) Why are you hitting yourself?
@arisiacrystal @Spacekatgal @femfreq @nrrrdcore You should consider not provoking people into hating you. Then they won't send hate mail.
— Fidelbogen – gab.ai/Fidelbogen (@fidelbogen) October 13, 2014
4) Why aren’t we fighting the real enemy — feminist English majors?
H/T — Cloudiah, Ami Angelwings
Oh.. fuck. It’s sort of scary/sad when people one knows personally get at MRM’s attention for just being.
er, an MRM’s attention.
Who are these “damaged guys”? And why is feminism to blame? It isn’t what forces them into their little, tight boxes of toxic masculinity.
How is gaming (even though women and girls have been doing it from the start) one of the only safe spaces for men to do whatever they want?
It seems to me that misogynist men find public transportation, the street, bars, parks, schools, parties, and their homes to be safe places to act sexist.
At some point, someone “proved” that Brianna Wu sent herself the threats she received, because both of them used periods at the end of sentences. I can’t find that comment, but believe me it happened.
Also, FFS John Grisham is wrong on so many levels. The r/mr discussion of this (linked in that r/amr thread) has turned around a bit, due to the intervention of /u/FallingSnowAngel, who is a feminist-identified male survivor of sexual abuse both as a child and an adult. Before he started calling them out, most of the comments there that are now negative were positive.
Scarlett: But feminism is to blame for hot women not blowing them on demand. Because feminism has given women the foolish idea that they’re actual factual human beings and individuals who can say no if they want to and not feel bad for the boners they disappoint.
It really wouldn’t be so bad if they only had some consideration for those poor oppressed boners.
Why did I speak of women in third person in that last post? I am a woman. Hear me rawr.
So when there were comparatively minor disruptions to a college talk, the MRM set out to expose and harass the perpetrators. When there are very severe threats that cancel an entire talk, and they might actually be in a position to deliver the perpetrator to the relevant authorities, they sit back and gloat that ‘we are the only people holding these damaged guys back’, whatever that means. It’s like they’re determined to take the most counter-productive course of action at every turn.
Has Woody been here to comment on the recent threats against Sarkeesian’s life?
Shut up, Woody.
Your real identity as a sockpuppet of David Futrelle (who is actually a bunch of ferrets in a human suit) slipped through a little.
“Men are the superior, more intelligent sex! – MRAs 2014
“This death threat couldn’t have possibly been written by a MRA, it’s too articulate and smart-sounding!” -MRAs 2014
WON’T SOMEONE PLEASE THINK OF THE WHITE MALES?! JUST FOR ONCE!!
This may be just me completely misunderstanding how the internet works, but I thought that if there were men who wanted a closed space, members only, where they could talk about how damaged they’ve been by women and feminists, with no interference from said women and feminists, they could just set up that kind of forum? AFAIK you can even have “secret groups” on Facebook where only members can read and post. Seems more efficient than to play video games and desperately hope that no women show up.
Sunnysombrera – oh that’s right, before feminism, I thought I had to give blood jobs right then or have sex on demand any time some dude said “hey, how’s it going”
“It really wouldn’t be so bad if they only had some consideration for those poor oppressed boners.”
If only they wore kilts, everything would be OK.
“Safe spaces”? Uh oh, sounds like MAN DETOX:
http://nobodyscores.loosenutstudio.com/index.php?id=528
Don’t “go deep” like the ‘gaters have.
I find the third comment most disturbing. He seems to feel that sending hatemail is a natural and right response to whatever he might find “provoking”.
So we’re supposed to protect ourselves by never voicing opinions. Example: “Hate mail & death threats is unacceptable & wrong.”–because that’s *so goddamn inflammatory and provoking*.
WWTH, the story in that link is appalling! Seems quite likely the lady was killed by an adult family member, and they’ve convinced the child to take the rap because they knew children couldn’t be charged with murder in that state or possibly just knew the justice system goes easy on kids. Sick.
Brain Bleach for later use
Elvis the Coati (H/T Pharyngula)
http://youtu.be/T6gwRxXfusQ
and Teddy Bear
http://youtu.be/UGz8jcbJjRw
False equivalency alert: Comparing supposed threats to “Matt Forney” to that of the Utah State Situation. Courtesy of ROK of course. http://www.returnofkings.com/45860/rok-columnist-matt-forney-receives-death-threats-for-criticizing-tattooed-women
@ratzilla:
Not to mention that the “provoking” part consists of:
1. Identifying as a feminist.
2. Saying harassment and death threats are wrong.
Fnoicby:
Yeah, well, that seems to have backfired because the state just went ahead and is trying him as an adult, and they put him in the non-juvenile facility.
I understand MRA logic all too well. My ex popped by unannounced for a visit at 1:00 am this morning. He needed to let me know right away that he would be leaving for a bit, going on the road because none of us love him, and we all just take advantage of him and it’s making him depressed. He doesn’t understand why his kids hate him – couldn’t be a lifetime of verbal abuse and self-centeredness, could it? Nah. He can’t possibly understand why I won’t let him move in with us, couldn’t be 20 years of physical and emotional abuse – nah, no way. After all I deserved much worse for hurting him by telling him things such as that he should help support his three kids which makes him feel like a bad person, which of course he’s not. He feels I should bear most of the burden (food, shelter, clothing, nurturing, etc.) cause I “turned his kids against him” by not being an asshole to them and actually being a fair, responsible, & loving parent (MRA translation – not backing him up). Or saying that I really can’t trust him after all the years of cheating and lies, cause like I should know he’s not a liar even though he is. See how it works? It’s all my fault for needing 17 staples in my head (after he threw me into a bookshelf) because it made him feel like an “abuser” which of course he’s not, even though he has been abusive, but only when absolutely necessary and it didn’t count because he would never do something like that, even though he did. So he has to leave town because we are all so mean (even though we’re actually way too nice to him) because we remember bad things he’s done (is doing, is likely to do in the future) and we actually expect him to take responsibility for his own mistakes and sometimes even *gasp* get angry with him. Translation – He is the one who is abused.
I love the chestnut about how outspokenness from women alienates men to the progressiveness of women’s rights. Just go along with your efforts to be treated like human beings without being too radical, dearies, because you wouldn’t want to piss off the men who so magnanimously let you exist in their world!
logrey: O.O