The screencap above shows a discussion on the still-active #burgersandfries IRC channel about the media coverage of the recent death threats directed at indie game devveloper Brianna Wu.
Apparently any publicity is good publicity, even if your “movement” is getting media attention for being the likely source of death threats against a female developer.
Before some stray GamerGater comes by to inist that this guy “isn’t really a #GamerGater because that’s on IRC,” this seems to be the guy’s Twitter account. As you can see, @Thidran regularly Tweets and retweets comments using the #GamerGate tag or the abbreviation GG; he’s also obsessed with Zoe Quinn. BUT IT’S NOT ABOUT HER WE’VE ALL MOVED PAST THAT.
H/T — r/GamerGhazi for the screencap.
Shaenon, wow that’s disgusting
I would to see the expressions on their faces when the SWAT teams come through their doors and windows at 5am
Maybe I feel optimistic today, but I don’t even think it would be that bad if they make it to Fox news. I don’t have any expectations whatsoever in Fox’s “journalistic integrity” and we know already they’re racist and sexist and conservative-libertarian as fuck, so it’s not like it would be below them.
But giving a platform to these obviously absurd arguments would be almost funny and even could alienate some of their viewers…
(also it would be really entertaining to see the GGers try to articulate a single criticism to ‘journalism’ that doesn’t apply to Fox, and Fox to to frame a news story without an evil imminent threat other than mostly white educated ladies writing games and speaking on youtube and twitter)
Oh that’s priceless, Shaenon. Yet more proof that “collusion” only matters when it’s someone GamerGaters already want to hate, and that they’ll almost always find the woman at fault regardless of the situation.
@Shaenon, I’d tell you to give that to any GGers you know, but I have the sad feeling that it would just float around a bit and disappear, not become a central, oft-repeated example of corruption like ZQ has. If they’d even circulate it for you, and not tell you to do it yourself because it’s not their responsibility.
@tinyorc:
QFT. There seems to be a feeling that if they just SAY they’re nice loud enough, that all the bad stuff that’s happened as part of GG will just go away somehow. Problem with that is that as someone’s already said in a blog somewhere, by definition GamerGate is whatever someone does in the name of GamerGate, and that includes the harmful stuff.
The Underpants Gnomes had a more solid plan for achieving their purported aims than GamerGate.
Step 1: wreck shit
Step 2: ???
Step 3: JOURNALISTIC INTEGRITY
You know, I had heard the old joke that: “In conversation with beautiful people, 99 % of what most men say boil down to: “Hey, how ’bout some dick?” but I didn’t actually think I’d ever see an honest to god actual example of that, in print form.
Thank you Shaenon. That was enlightening.
Also, did we all see that #GamerGate* brigaded a survey on diversity in gaming? Social researcher Jennifer Allaway was trying to collect actual data on whether diversity in game content is important to players, containing such clearly biased questions such as “Describe your racial identity” and “How many years have you work in the game industry?”
Instead of making sure that GamerGate were represented in the study by, you know, encouraging each other to fill it out honestly, they flooded it with disingenuous, sexist, threatening answers in order to “contaminate the data”. Allaway herself said:
But hey, why participate honestly in a legitimate academic study when you can sabotage it instead, right guys? INTEGRITY! TRANSPARENCY! NO AGENDAS! Ququasar, you can add this to your list of GamerGate achievements.
*Or, sorry, people who claim to be part of #GamerGate, posting on 8chan, which is currently acting as the primary GG base #NOTALLGAMERS etc.
John Waters was once asked what the most certain fast-track route to fame was, and he replied “Kill someone famous”.
Although Waters was, of course, joking. Worryingly, some people really do seem to think that this is a good idea.
Aaaaaaand also there’s this. http://secretgamergirl.tumblr.com/post/99278805850/the-longterm-plans-of-gamergate
Summary version: once GamerGate “wins” they intend to go after SJWs in all manner of geeky hobbies. And also if Hillary gets elected everything is doomed. Because of course.
[CW for everything you’d expect]
@tinyorc, I’ve found the same thing in my discussions over Twitter with GamerGate people – some of it might be due to the intentionally stifled form of communication that it enforces, but nobody’s been able to give me an answer as to what GamerGate actually wants. Someone linked me to a video by Matt (the one with the skull) where he went on about Zoe Quinn’s personal life for seven minutes, and another talked about feminists pushing their agenda on games but didn’t answer when I asked for an example of what is allowed now that wouldn’t be allowed in the future.
The closest thing I got to a reason was that someone gave Bayonetta 2 a 7.5 because they thought women could be represented better in it – so “people having different opinions” is the only issue I’ve identified so far.
Well, GG already gobbles up shit from Breitbart.com and got a whole bunch of conspiracy theorists on board, so I wouldn’t be surprised if they got in PrisonPlanet before Fox News.
Yes. Here is Vox Day’s tweet on it (note that at least one person tried to call him out on his stupidity):
https://twitter.com/voxday/status/512507885931470849
And here is his post on the same issue (read the comments, his followers are as stupid as he is): http://www.donotlink.com/c1k2
Good god Vox hasn’t worked a day in his life as a journalist has he?
THIS IS STANDARD JOURNALISTIC PRACTICE FOR ALMOST ANY TOPIC. What a moron!
To be fair, that was written by someone named Milo Yiannopoulis. I don’t know who he is, but apparently he’s a new writer at Breitbart. I saw where someone else said he didn’t give a shit about video games or video game players, and he was actually disdainful of both before the gamergate hashtag became a thing, so I suspect what he’s doing is attempting to bolster his burgeoning career. (Baldwin, on the other hand, has done voice work in video games, and I think that gamergate has given him the most attention he’s had since Firefly fandom has waned. I’d be interested to see how his career goes once his current TV projects wrap.)
@tinyorc
Had the same luck. “Corrupt journalists!” “Who?” “The hard left feminists who want to censor games!” “HARD left? How?” “You don’t get to decide that!” “You don’t get to make up straw enemies because criticism” “You’re moving the goalpost!” “Uh…what?” *ensue GGer ragequit*
One guy linked me to an article that I’ll have to dig up and post here, because it’s just priceless. It includes a “Gamer Bill of Rights”, the first AND fifth of which call for no bad reviews of any video game ever.
Here we are. Bask in the glory of TEH GAMERZ RIGHTZ ZOMG:
https://storify.com/CriticalKelly/dear-gaming-journalists
“We, of course, vested this power on ourselves.”
“You, of course, don’t count as players.”
“Unless you’re a woman and/or think video games could be more inclusive, in which case we reserve ourselves the right to act like screeching macaques towards you.”
“Unless said customer is a woman or POC or a feminist or… they don’t count.”
“Unless said expression, artists or market blah blah blah.”
“Only people who already have an emotional investment in a video game should review it. No conflict of interest whatsoever!”
(gotta go home, continue later)
@ryeash, that’s… astonishingly ill-conceived 🙂 What a find!
@Sarah
Milo’s previous claim to fame was running a now dead website and getting sued by his writers for not paying them.
ETHICS!
I must give credit where credit is due. A Mr. @acesrhigh, in his own words:
https://twitter.com/acesrhigh/status/521493345533984768
It’s not 100% SPOT ON THO GUIZE.
He would also like us to know of #GamerGate: “We want to games free of limitation”, and his ragequitting buddy had a sentence I deciphered as best as I could “who’s one the hard left is not in the eyes of the beholder”. I think I confused my Gibberish dialects, because he was very offended by my interpretation.
@ ryeash – I tried putting that through my Dudebro/AlphaGamer translator, but it blew up! Now how will I understand what they’re trying to say?
“Changes must come Gradually and Slowly, so as to not Upset our Fragile Egos. By which I mean, never, or at least until we’re dragged kicking and screaming into the light, then we’ll still complain and push back every step of the way like the good reactionaries we are.”
“And by creative ridicule we mean death threats and harassment. All in good fun, of course.”
@grumpyoldnurse
They’ve created a whole new language…
http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2013/129/5/e/mother_of_god_in_hd_by_lemmino-d64ndao.png
(Can’t figure out embedding images…)