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In a series of brilliant, furious Tweets, Zoe Quinn tears apart the myth that #GamerGate has "moved beyond" harassment of women

Get over it, dudes.
Get over it, dudes.

Zoe Quinn has had it.

Yesterday, fed up with the equivocating bullshit that’s constantly being said in the media and within gaming circles about #GamerGate, and pissed off at all those who think of themselves as good people but still refuse to see the hatred and misogyny and harassment and doxxing that has been central to GG since the start, Quinn posted a series of (justifiably) angry tweets calling out the cowards in the profession who know that what’s going on is deeply evil but won’t say anything, and documenting the unending harassment she and her boyfriend, and her family, and his family are still getting.

Was that even a sentence? I don’t know. The point is she’s STILL getting harassed. She’s STILL getting “prank” calls. She’s STILL getting death threats. People are STILL digging around in her personal life and the personal life of everyone connected to her.

And she’s not the only one. The newest target of #GamerGate wrath? Indie game developer Brianna Wu, who, as I noted in my last post, got death threats … for posting memes on Twitter.

Meanwhile, two creepy obsessed assholes are still begging for money to make a documentary they hope will ruin Anita Sarkeesian.

Oh, but #GamerGate is about ethics.

I’m just going to paste in a bunch of Quinn’s Tweets here, because they pretty much speak for themselves.

I followed up on the IRC log here and here, but I wouldn’t have known about it if she hadn’t been there first collecting screenshots.

Take the time to enlarge the pics on these tweets:

And then there’s … this:

Also, she gets phone calls:

Oh, you don’t believe she gets phone calls? Ta da:

As the MRAs say: Always Be Recording. Except that Zoe Quinn actually has a good reason to do this.

It’s kind of amazing that Quinn manages to retain a sense of humor in the midst of all this.

Gamer inside joke!

Also, kitty:

 

 

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null
6 years ago

Lies.

Policy of Madness
Policy of Madness
6 years ago

How long before the first troll shows up to play bingo?

Quinn is correct, of course, about the silence that enables this shit, but there’s also the fact that when men talk about GG they don’t catch a tenth of this much flak, and that seems to have led to a weird effect. “and to those who are anti-gg and silent – the more people who speak out the less vulnerable those who do speak out are.” There have been men who did speak out, but as men they are so safe from criticism that I’m not sure that them speaking out has actually made the women less vulnerable. They don’t dilute the attack, because GG ignores them in order to relentlessly focus on the women.

Scildfreja
Scildfreja
6 years ago

I haven’t ever commented here, though I’ve been reading for a long time now. Hello!

Think I’m’a answer her call and help out instead of sitting on the sidelines. Any suggestions on what I should do? Get a twitter handle and start replying to these dudebros? With what? I don’t really know how I can help stem this vile tide.

ej
ej
6 years ago

Yes of course they are, keep trying to put yourself back in the limelight.

No. Just no. She wants this to stop. The only way that it will stop is if she (and others) speak up about what is going on. If you’re tired of seeing Zoe Quinn talking about online harassment, STOP HARASSING HER! If you’re not harassing her, tell others to stop harassing her. This is not complicated.

Zoe Quinn – please keep you and your boyfriends’ corruption and bs out of our games

Again, no. Who keeps insisting on bringing up the “scandal?” Who keeps sending threatening messages?

Hint: It’s not Zoe. Her personal life is should be, just that PERSONAL. She is not putting it into the gaming community. Everyone harassing her is.

There is a very easy solution that will make all of this go away. STOP HARASSING PEOPLE! These are not jokes. These are not idle threats. This is harassment and I’m terrified for women like Zoe and Anita (and others). Is someone actually going to have to follow up on their threats before this kind of bullying and harassment is taken seriously?

Policy of Madness
Policy of Madness
6 years ago

Is someone actually going to have to follow up on their threats before this kind of bullying and harassment is taken seriously?

I’m reasonably confident that if someone did follow up on the threats, it would still not be taken seriously.

jojo
jojo
6 years ago

The only reason Phil Fish got so much flack from gg os because they hated him already

vaiyt
6 years ago

These guys are literally shouting “It’s not about Zoe!” to one side while going “ARGLE BARGLE ZOE QUINN IS A WHORE” to the other.

Orion
6 years ago

I didn’t find Pepito the Cat especially cute, but it is a technical marvel that I encourage folks to check out.

vaiyt
6 years ago

The only reason Phil Fish got so much flack from gg os because they hated him already

It’s not like EVERY OTHER critic of #gamergate has gotten shit from the screaming mob, amirite. My eyes are rolling so hard I’m afraid they’ll snap out of my skull.

davidknewton
6 years ago

I was about to ask what I could do to help at all – to somehow put myself between people who need support and the mob. This answers it pretty clearly!

I’ve talked to a few people who say they support Gamergate on Twitter, and they don’t seem like bad people, apart from one who told me my request for information had been forwarded to the Adult Literacy helpline. Mostly, they honestly seem to believe that these people aren’t part of the ‘true’ Gamergate. If people who think like that – who want this end to corruption (the details of which I never really got a straight answer on) are there and can be motivated to speak up against it, perhaps that’s the way forward? Am i being too optimistic?

I spoke up under the Gamergate hashtag on Twitter again – we’ll see where it goes today. Who’s doing the same?

weirwoodtreehugger
6 years ago

Looks like Zoe Quinn has the same phone as me.

I’m too tired to say anything about the gamer gate assholes other than the usual. Yuck. Gross. Terrible. Does some guy really have a bulletin board full of post its about her? That’s not creepy at all.

LBT
LBT
6 years ago

Yeesh, out of town for a week, come back, and this shit train is still chugging along, dumping turds everywhere. Ugh.

(PS: we’re back! Bad things still happening in head! Will probably not be so regular! Just wanted to let you know we had a great time meeting kirbywarp and emilygoddess and are back from our con, which went very well.)

gilshalos
6 years ago

Welcome back LBT!

Sorry to hear about the headstuff, but glad you had a good Con.

Bina
Bina
6 years ago

Gamergate. Journalistic integrity. Yeah, right. All the assholes claiming this are not journalists, have never been to j-school, never studied media law, and wouldn’t know integrity if it bit them on their asses. As is evidenced by the ongoing use of the word “whore”.

Oh yeah, and claiming people were killed because of Zoe Quinn? Seriously? The only person who might end up dead is she herself. These melodrama llamas really need to get a life, collectively.

cloudiah
6 years ago

What a bunch of dingleberries!

Hey, LBT, really glad you had a good time at the Con and meeting @kirbywarp and @emilygoddess, and sorry to hear about the bad head things. Sending adorable kittens your way.

Lea
Lea
6 years ago

I’ve talked to a few people who say they support Gamergate on Twitter, and they don’t seem like bad people

David, if the support GG, they are bad people. That’s like saying birthers don’t seem like bad people. It’s hard to see this kind of thing for me too. My in laws are racist homophobes. I tried so hard to compartmentalize that with how friendly they are to me, but I just can’t. Some issues are black and white and this is one of them. If it was you instead of Zoe, Anita, Adria etc. would you still think they are good people?

Steph
Steph
6 years ago

Oh look, a white male telling a diverse movement how to think. You “journalist” types need to stop colonizing gaming, we’re fed up with your privileged mayo trust fund bullshit.

Catfish
Catfish
6 years ago

I have a friend who is tired of media bashing GamerGate because “its all about their corruption in the first place”.
Derp?

seraph4377
6 years ago

Reblogged this on Dreams of the Shining Horizon and commented:
Zoe Quinn once again provides the evidence – as if there was any doubt – that #Gamergate is about harassing women and trying to drive them out of video games.
Oh, and for the little shit who asked Zoe Quinn and her boyfriend to stay out of “our games”? They are not your games. They were never your games, and no matter how much shit you throw, you will never be the dominant demographic again. Your world is over.

LBT
LBT
6 years ago

RE: gilshalos

Sorry to hear about the headstuff, but glad you had a good Con.

It was a very nice con; we broke our sales records, which is great! And got to meet up with tons of people and friends and remember that people like us not just online.

RE: cloudiah

That’s odd, your comment became a link. Emilygoddess is apparently now a digital entity, no longer circumscribed by mere flesh!

Skye
Skye
6 years ago

Glad you had a good time, LBT. Hope your head becomes more hospitable to you soon.

phasma
phasma
6 years ago

The only reason Phil Fish got so much flack from gg os because they hated him already

Now, now…why would that be?

white knight
white knight
6 years ago

Adblock appears to be blocking some of the images by default, I haven’t noticed that happening before on this blog.

Bernardo Soares
Bernardo Soares
6 years ago

Hi everybody. I’ve lurked around the blog for some time after having a confrontation with some German Mens’ Righters IRL. I feel that this is a good opportunity to draw on your collected expertise. I’ve been in confrontations about Anita Sarkeesian and Zoe Quinn on a German blog, and it took me a while and some reading on WHTM to realize many of them posted youtube videos coming from US antifeminist or Mens’ Rights circles – GirlWritesWhat, Christina Hoff Sommers The Amazing Atheist, Thunderfoot (ok, he’s not officially part of the movement, right? And Australian.). Most of the arguments they brought forth I could also recognize as taken either from the German or the US Mens’ Righters (I also suspect the Germans have taken many discussion points from AVFM or similar). So, in the comment section of this blog, it looked to me like Mens’ Righters were driving the discussion by claiming they really wanted to talk about things like “corruption” or that “Sarkeesian accuses us gamers of sexism like all the mainstream media accuse us of being violent” as their main points of concern. My tactic was to provoke them until I brought them to the point where they talked about the discrimination of men by ze eeevul feminists more generally, so that it was clear where these people actually came from. Nevertheless, I got into angry arguments and didn’t really like the tone of discussion I myself was using. Also, to each refutation of “arguments” someone post a new video with “proof” that Anita is “busted” and I get headache from reactionary shit flung at me by angry people on youtube.

So, two questions:
1) Am I right in the impression (admittedly, from one blog) that a large part of Gamergate is driven by Mens’ Righters either just claiming to care about games (like Hoff Sommers, who is funnily enough exactly as clueless about games as the whiners claim Sarkeesian to be) or being both?
2) What would you recommend as a good tactic to a) uncover these guys’ real driving ideology and b) refute their “arguments” without exhausting oneself and feeling slightly dirty?

Scildfreja
Scildfreja
6 years ago

I’ve talked to a few people who say they support Gamergate on Twitter, and they don’t seem like bad people, […] perhaps that’s the way forward? Am i being too optimistic?

To echo Lea a bit… yeah, sort of optimistic. I’m an optimist, too, I fall into that trap all the time.

Just think about what you’d do if something you cared about started filling up with violent misogynists – I’d be doing my best to throw them the hell out, or at the very least starting a new clubhouse that was less filled with weevils.

Not a great analogy, though. GG was about abusing women first, and got a thin veneer of “journalism corruption” after the fact.

F’n weevils.

Policy of Madness
Policy of Madness
6 years ago

The measure of whether a person is “decent,” “good,” or even “not bad” is how they treat those with (perceived) lesser power. I’m not a Christian, but the New Testament has some wisdom here: “If you love those who love you, what credit is that to you? For even sinners love those who love them.” Yes, even terrible people are capable of being nice and displaying love. That doesn’t make them suddenly not terrible people, because their niceness and love is reserved for certain circles. Genuinely nice people are nice to everyone, not merely their friends.

Scildfreja
Scildfreja
6 years ago

I’m not a Christian either, but that’s a really excellent statement, PolicyofMadness

idledillettante
6 years ago

This reminds me of the responses I got on twitter from #GG dudes while I was covering Eron Gjoni’s legal troubles on my blog. (http://idledillettante.wordpress.com/2014/10/03/eron-gjonis-restraining-order-inability-to-stop-discussing-his-ex-online/)

Like, for example; I mistakenly thought “Zoe Quinn” was her real name, so I thought Eron’s lawyer was lying when he said “Quinn’s full name never appears in thezoepost.”

Gjoni wrote me back on Twitter to say ZQ wasn’t her real name; so the lawyer was just doing standard twisty-lawyer stuff (and Gjoni’s a manipulator too; which is why I was writing about him.)

And then, some nameless #GGer anon tweeted me to say I was “re-revealing” the fakeness of ZQ’s preferred name, so if I really cared about ZQ I would stop writing about Gjoni and #GG. But I hadn’t “revealed” anything (much less *re-revealed*)… I didn’t actually *know* her name was not Zoe Quinn when I published. That was all after-the-fact Eron, talking about his ex like he had been specifically told not to be doing by a court of law. But according to that #GG guy, it’s my fault for daring to criticize Gjoni in a blog post.

Athywren
Athywren
6 years ago

That phonecall… fucking hell, they really are a bunch of 12 year olds, aren’t they? That was a voice that hasn’t even heard of the concept of puberty.

@davidknewton

If people who think like that – who want this end to corruption (the details of which I never really got a straight answer on) are there and can be motivated to speak up against it, perhaps that’s the way forward? Am i being too optimistic?

You’re being too optimistic. They’re quite clear that they neither have any obligation to criticise those who are obsessed with hating women, nor any motivation to abandon #GamerGate to the haters and make a new tag specifically addressing corruption.
The funny thing is that, since they’re unwilling to stop the harrassment or divorce themselves from it, they have basically no chance of getting anything positive done*, because any vaguely reasonable voices are being drowned out by the abuse. Basically, they’re just acting as a cheap film of PR shielding the tide of hatred from criticism, and that’s giving them the complete benefit of the doubt and assuming that they really are being honest in having concerns about corruption, which is a thing that I believe about as far as I believe that Batman is a real person.

Alex M
Alex M
6 years ago

In related news: The Escapist, a site that allowed a gigantic slut shaming thread about Zoe Quinn in the middle of her harassment and continues to allow barely-moderated GamerGate threads coordinating attacks, published a piece called “What Male Game Developers Think of #GamerGate” (bolded word only added hours later and still doesn’t show up on the front page). The article is a fucking travesty and the people responsible need be taken to task for it.

It was mostly sourced from 4chan and other pro-GG circles while being presented as if it represents the video game development community as a whole. They could have gotten actual veterans like Tim Schafer, but instead chose to talk to such luminaries “Xbro” specifically because they slanted it in GamerGate’s favor. It uses hideously leading questions that would get a journalism major’s college application shredded. Several of the subjects are known misogynists, MRAs, doxxers, and hackers, most of whom use the interview to spread deliberate misinformation and some even designate targets on the Escapist itself. Many of the interviews are longer than the entirety of their piece “Female Game Developers Share Their Views on #GamerGate” (which is an illuminating; 6 out of 7 women reached for comment are fucking terrified for their lives, yet The Escapist decided to give twenty times more ink to their abusers).

Here’s a Storify for more information.

idledillettante
6 years ago

It also reminds of the time one #GGer asked me politely if we could discuss #GamerGate and like fifty people marched onto my notifications, asking me bad-faith questions about some dude who got fired for #GamerGating at work.

I played #GamerGate bingo with the responses (since I couldn’t have a discussion with an angry mob) and was called “Bingo Bitch.” That won me a round.

Then, the polite #GGer and I adjourned to a chat client to have the discussion I promised him, and I told him about the shitstorm simply accepting his invitation had started on my feed. His only responses were that “he wasn’t responsible for that” and that I should have been nicer; that by starting a bingo game said nasty #GGers felt belittled.

But WTF else are you supposed to do when thirty angry guys are asking you questions rapid-fire? Start issuing deli numbers for when they’ll get their measured, “nice” responses?

katz
6 years ago

LBT, glad to see you! I hope the bad things will be manageable. You are tough.

Howard
Howard
6 years ago

I fear that all this is going to culminate in someone getting attacked in real life. 🙁

vaiyt
6 years ago

1) Am I right in the impression (admittedly, from one blog) that a large part of Gamergate is driven by Mens’ Righters either just claiming to care about games (like Hoff Sommers, who is funnily enough exactly as clueless about games as the whiners claim Sarkeesian to be) or being both?

Almost. The dyed-in-the-wool MRAs latched onto the movement because it agrees with their goals (attacking women), but the founders were garden-variety misogynists, the kind you can find anywhere.

Bina
Bina
6 years ago

It was mostly sourced from 4chan and other pro-GG circles while being presented as if it represents the video game development community as a whole. They could have gotten actual veterans like Tim Schafer, but instead chose to talk to such luminaries “Xbro” specifically because they slanted it in GamerGate’s favor. It uses hideously leading questions that would get a journalism major’s college application shredded. Several of the subjects are known misogynists, MRAs, doxxers, and hackers, most of whom use the interview to spread deliberate misinformation and some even designate targets on the Escapist itself. Many of the interviews are longer than the entirety of their piece “Female Game Developers Share Their Views on #GamerGate” (which is an illuminating; 6 out of 7 women reached for comment are fucking terrified for their lives, yet The Escapist decided to give twenty times more ink to their abusers).

Ugh, why am I not surprised?

If these GamerGoop pissants really wanted to talk journalistic integrity, the Escapist would be a good place to start, because from what you’ve described here, it hasn’t got any.

Misha
Misha
6 years ago

@LBT, great news on the con. I think I remember a post a while ago when you were wondering if you should go or not, glad y’all had a good time 🙂

Yes, even terrible people are capable of being nice and displaying love. That doesn’t make them suddenly not terrible people

Yes and yes. I remember reading a post on Bancroft’s blog a while back cautioning against the ‘benefit of the doubt’ thinking often fallen into when trying to assess someone’s behavioural history – “well, they did a mountain of terrible, BUT they did do this one good thing, so they can’t be so bad”. Rather than “well, they did a mountain of terrible, and ONLY this one good thing, so they must be quite bad”.

Bina
Bina
6 years ago

Also, hey, LBT! Glad you had fun in Boston. Sorry your brain’s being an unncooperative git. Nice to see you back!

BritterSweet
6 years ago

People who threaten to rape and kill are the last people who should talk about “integrity.”

The entitlement is crystal clear in what these guys say. And besides, of all things for GamerGate to be fighting/harassing/threatening for. Video games? Those electronic toys? And at least one fellow takes time out of his routine schedule to put in a weekly harassing call to this stranger? They really do have no life.

I don’t have a Twitter account and am almost never logged in to Facebook, but I realize Quinn’s call to not be silent is directed toward people like me.

LBT
LBT
6 years ago

RE: idledillettante

But WTF else are you supposed to do when thirty angry guys are asking you questions rapid-fire? Start issuing deli numbers for when they’ll get their measured, “nice” responses?

It’s a Catch22. If you DO be perfectly “civil” and “polite,” they’ll find some way to claim you’re not, or whiplash around and say it can’t be that big a deal because see, YOU’RE a nice one! Not like THOSE dramatic [slur slur slur]!

RE: katz

I hope the bad things will be manageable. You are tough.

Yeah, basically, the incest may have happened more than once, and involved more than one relative. It’s not becoming a running gag, practically.

Kid: Hey Rogan, there’s more hidden stuff! Guess what it’s about?

Me: Is it rape?

Kid: HOORAY! YOU’RE RIGHT! HOWEVER DID YOU GUESS!

Me: I MUST BE PSYCHIC!

Kid: WE’RE BOTH WINNERS!

*sparkles and streamers and confetti*

Elektra Kenway
6 years ago

My rage grows more and more with every male “gamer” commenting things like “I didn’t read anything but…” and then something about ethics in journalism. I see it on the comments of articles every day.

We all know “GamerGate” has nothing to do with either ethics nor journalism. There’s no excuse (not even the “I didn’t read anything but”).

Anyone claming to support “GamerGate” is confessing their misogyny.

Mewens
Mewens
6 years ago

Alex M: I stopped reading The Escapist entirely. The new ethics policy all but puts a target on victims: it states that reporters will not assume any allegation is true, and will use words such as “alleged” and “supposed” to mark such allegations. That, of course, puts a huge onus on victims, since they’re making the bulk of allegations – and now their language is being assaulted with doubt _by the supposedly impartial reporter._

The Escapist’s first gamer shitstorm* article posted after the new ethics policy was about Zoe Quinn releasing IRC logs from 4chan’s raid channel; she was quoted, but her “allegations” were neatly adjectivized and adverbolized with “allegedly” and the like. Meanwhile, the four anonymous 4chan trolls the “reporter” talked to had their claims couched in quotes – yup, minimizing the “allegedly” chatter. The nail in the coffin was the note from the editor that talked about every story having “two sides” with the truth lying somewhere in between. Guize, I can hear your dog whistle.

*I refuse to use the idiotic hashtag, even in passing. It’s exactly the kind of self-aggrandizing nonsense that I refuse to honor through repetition (guize, we’re totally as big as that scandal that brought down Jimmy Clinton – the one where he broke into a hotel and shot Ronald Reagan, what’s it called, Watergate).

Bina
Bina
6 years ago

Hey, Bernardo, welcome aboard. I’m Canadian, of German descent (immigrant folks). I’d love to hear more about these Menz Rightzers from over there (and yes, they probably ARE copycats of their anglo-amurrican bros, too — I can’t see them coming up with this shit independently. Being a misogynist doesn’t really predispose one to a whole lot of original thinking, as it’s the oldest and commonest bigotry in the world.)

BTW, I’m also fluent in German (English is my SECOND language, even though I was born here), so if there’s any questions about that, feel free to ask me.

Since vaiyt has already answered your first question, I’ll take on this one:

2) What would you recommend as a good tactic to a) uncover these guys’ real driving ideology and b) refute their “arguments” without exhausting oneself and feeling slightly dirty?

Keep reading this site, for starters; it’s a good resource (and a brain-refresher, too, when it gets to be too much; someone’s always posting cute kitties and other mind-bleach). You’ll get a good feel for their basic premises, fallacies, subcultures, etc. And a good laugh when you need it, to boot.

As for their arguments, refuting them is not a very useful tactic, as you’ve no doubt already discovered. Since most of that stuff is garbage anyway, mockery’s a good way to go. If you see anything here that seems relevant there, use it.

And don’t let the shitheads get you down.

grumpyoldnurse
6 years ago

Hey, Kid, Rogan, and everyone else in LBT’s system; good luck, guys! Also all the internet hugs you want. You are awesome.

LBT
LBT
6 years ago

Aw, thanks grumpyoldnurse! We really are doing okay otherwise. (Well, except for our roommates’ ceiling kind of melting and possibly breaking our lease soon. BUT OTHER THAN THAT.)

ej
ej
6 years ago

she was quoted, but her “allegations” were neatly adjectivized and adverbolized with “allegedly” and the like.

Based on yesterday’s post, can we accuse them of hypnotism?

Also, here is a very appropriate dance interlude for anyone who needs to clear their brain.

M. the Social Justice Ranger
M. the Social Justice Ranger
6 years ago

What I want to know is why the FBI hasn’t asked Twitter etc for the IP addresses of the #Gits (or, if it has, why Twitter etc haven’t complied). Rape and death threats aren’t covered by freedom of speech and are illegal, even (especially) on the Internet.

sunnysombrera
6 years ago

When this year’s PAX Prime had several panels on women game developers, how to deal with trolls and misogyny, how gaming can be more inclusive AND a satirical (read: making fun of!) panel on “corrupt games journalism” you know that Gamergate is hardly the “majority”. PAX fucking Prime was not being subtle in its stance against GG and its voices. Dudes, it’s over. The industry, the stats and it’s biggest reps have spoken. Games are not just for men. Wave your white flag already.

Policy of Madness
Policy of Madness
6 years ago

1) Am I right in the impression (admittedly, from one blog) that a large part of Gamergate is driven by Mens’ Righters either just claiming to care about games (like Hoff Sommers, who is funnily enough exactly as clueless about games as the whiners claim Sarkeesian to be) or being both?

I would actually say no, GG is not “driven by” MRAs. Rather, both groups are drawing upon a common source, namely the entitlement that is cultivated in straight white men, and the sheer rage that straight white men sometimes experience when that entitlement is questioned. So you see some overlap in membership, but the members who do not overlap share a common attitude and make the overlap look greater than it is. Men who do not experience this rage are not especially drawn to either group.

2) What would you recommend as a good tactic to a) uncover these guys’ real driving ideology and b) refute their “arguments” without exhausting oneself and feeling slightly dirty?

I would say that their underlying ideology is, generally, the entitlement I just mentioned. Insofar as ferreting it out of individuals? I wouldn’t bother. It’s not worth the energy investment. Refuting their arguments is easy if you can identify the assumptions that underlay them, but learning to do that identification takes practice.

strivingally
6 years ago

I see the whole GG thing as analogous to sexual assault (give me a minute, I’ll explain!).

There may only be a small percentage of men perpetrating it, and only a small percentage of men speaking out about how men need to do more to stop it, but the assholes doing it are using the other 80% as cover.

I’m pretty sure it’s only a small percentage of GGers who are actually doing the really awful stuff. The problem lies in the big group of gamers attaching themselves to the name who are being used as a big freaking shield by the harmful fuckwads. They’re the ones saying “they’re not with us!” without realising how the whole “movement” exists just so the really nasty fuckers can do what they’re doing while hiding behind the rest.

I’m wording this badly. :/

jiggawutt
jiggawutt
6 years ago

So, I have like… 15 followers on twitter? Me tweeting against GG’s bullshit warranted a hailstorm of belligerent demands of “proof” for my claims, and other childish behavior. I think I literally talked to *ONE* reasonable soul in that 5 hour period, and even he was spouting unreasonable conspiracy theories to deflect the monstrous things people have been doing. There is no way these guys can convince me that this is anything more than misogyny.

Why? Game journalism has had a bias problem since I first became a gamer 27 years ago, and literally no one gave a shit until now. You know what my response to that unethical behavior was 20 years ago? I ended my subscriptions and moved on. The fact that these punks can’t move past this and do something better with their time after almost 2 months on just goes to show that it has nothing to do with ethics. If you are so concerned that these “journalists” (really just ad-men for the big gaming companies) are being shady, you would simply boycott the entire lot of them and be done with it like I did two decades ago.

But they won’t do that, and the harassment, and the death threats continue.

P.S. : When I really tried engaged these people to find out what they were so upset about, it came back to “Social Justice Warriors” trying to “censor” their games. Yes, they literally think criticism equals censorship.

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