In a series of brilliant, furious Tweets, Zoe Quinn tears apart the myth that #GamerGate has "moved beyond" harassment of women

How long before the first troll shows up to play bingo?

Quinn is correct, of course, about the silence that enables this shit, but there’s also the fact that when men talk about GG they don’t catch a tenth of this much flak, and that seems to have led to a weird effect. “and to those who are anti-gg and silent – the more people who speak out the less vulnerable those who do speak out are.” There have been men who did speak out, but as men they are so safe from criticism that I’m not sure that them speaking out has actually made the women less vulnerable. They don’t dilute the attack, because GG ignores them in order to relentlessly focus on the women.

Yes of course they are, keep trying to put yourself back in the limelight.

No. Just no. She wants this to stop. The only way that it will stop is if she (and others) speak up about what is going on. If you’re tired of seeing Zoe Quinn talking about online harassment, STOP HARASSING HER! If you’re not harassing her, tell others to stop harassing her. This is not complicated.

Zoe Quinn – please keep you and your boyfriends’ corruption and bs out of our games

Again, no. Who keeps insisting on bringing up the “scandal?” Who keeps sending threatening messages?

Hint: It’s not Zoe. Her personal life is should be, just that PERSONAL. She is not putting it into the gaming community. Everyone harassing her is.

There is a very easy solution that will make all of this go away. STOP HARASSING PEOPLE! These are not jokes. These are not idle threats. This is harassment and I’m terrified for women like Zoe and Anita (and others). Is someone actually going to have to follow up on their threats before this kind of bullying and harassment is taken seriously?

The only reason Phil Fish got so much flack from gg os because they hated him already

I didn’t find Pepito the Cat especially cute, but it is a technical marvel that I encourage folks to check out.

I was about to ask what I could do to help at all – to somehow put myself between people who need support and the mob. This answers it pretty clearly!

I’ve talked to a few people who say they support Gamergate on Twitter, and they don’t seem like bad people, apart from one who told me my request for information had been forwarded to the Adult Literacy helpline. Mostly, they honestly seem to believe that these people aren’t part of the ‘true’ Gamergate. If people who think like that – who want this end to corruption (the details of which I never really got a straight answer on) are there and can be motivated to speak up against it, perhaps that’s the way forward? Am i being too optimistic?

I spoke up under the Gamergate hashtag on Twitter again – we’ll see where it goes today. Who’s doing the same?

Yeesh, out of town for a week, come back, and this shit train is still chugging along, dumping turds everywhere. Ugh.

(PS: we’re back! Bad things still happening in head! Will probably not be so regular! Just wanted to let you know we had a great time meeting kirbywarp and emilygoddess and are back from our con, which went very well.)

Gamergate. Journalistic integrity. Yeah, right. All the assholes claiming this are not journalists, have never been to j-school, never studied media law, and wouldn’t know integrity if it bit them on their asses. As is evidenced by the ongoing use of the word “whore”.

Oh yeah, and claiming people were killed because of Zoe Quinn? Seriously? The only person who might end up dead is she herself. These melodrama llamas really need to get a life, collectively.

I’ve talked to a few people who say they support Gamergate on Twitter, and they don’t seem like bad people

David, if the support GG, they are bad people. That’s like saying birthers don’t seem like bad people. It’s hard to see this kind of thing for me too. My in laws are racist homophobes. I tried so hard to compartmentalize that with how friendly they are to me, but I just can’t. Some issues are black and white and this is one of them. If it was you instead of Zoe, Anita, Adria etc. would you still think they are good people?

I have a friend who is tired of media bashing GamerGate because “its all about their corruption in the first place”.
Derp?

RE: gilshalos

Sorry to hear about the headstuff, but glad you had a good Con.

It was a very nice con; we broke our sales records, which is great! And got to meet up with tons of people and friends and remember that people like us not just online.

RE: cloudiah

That’s odd, your comment became a link. Emilygoddess is apparently now a digital entity, no longer circumscribed by mere flesh!

The only reason Phil Fish got so much flack from gg os because they hated him already

Now, now…why would that be?

Hi everybody. I’ve lurked around the blog for some time after having a confrontation with some German Mens’ Righters IRL. I feel that this is a good opportunity to draw on your collected expertise. I’ve been in confrontations about Anita Sarkeesian and Zoe Quinn on a German blog, and it took me a while and some reading on WHTM to realize many of them posted youtube videos coming from US antifeminist or Mens’ Rights circles – GirlWritesWhat, Christina Hoff Sommers The Amazing Atheist, Thunderfoot (ok, he’s not officially part of the movement, right? And Australian.). Most of the arguments they brought forth I could also recognize as taken either from the German or the US Mens’ Righters (I also suspect the Germans have taken many discussion points from AVFM or similar). So, in the comment section of this blog, it looked to me like Mens’ Righters were driving the discussion by claiming they really wanted to talk about things like “corruption” or that “Sarkeesian accuses us gamers of sexism like all the mainstream media accuse us of being violent” as their main points of concern. My tactic was to provoke them until I brought them to the point where they talked about the discrimination of men by ze eeevul feminists more generally, so that it was clear where these people actually came from. Nevertheless, I got into angry arguments and didn’t really like the tone of discussion I myself was using. Also, to each refutation of “arguments” someone post a new video with “proof” that Anita is “busted” and I get headache from reactionary shit flung at me by angry people on youtube.

So, two questions:
1) Am I right in the impression (admittedly, from one blog) that a large part of Gamergate is driven by Mens’ Righters either just claiming to care about games (like Hoff Sommers, who is funnily enough exactly as clueless about games as the whiners claim Sarkeesian to be) or being both?
2) What would you recommend as a good tactic to a) uncover these guys’ real driving ideology and b) refute their “arguments” without exhausting oneself and feeling slightly dirty?