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Reddit hits a new low with a subreddit promoting the "corrective" rape of "sluts" and "harlots."

Collage of images from the PhilosophyOfRape subreddit
Collage of images from the PhilosophyOfRape subreddit

For a social media site with pretensions to respectability, Reddit shows an astounding tolerance for hate. As anyone who has ever explored the site’s dark underbelly knows well, the site hosts a vast array of subreddits devoted to celebrations of such things as “white pride” and violence against women.

The latest addition to this archipelago of awfulness is a 3-day-old subreddit with the pretentious and appalling name PhilosophyOfRape, set up by a user of the same name in order to promote and celebrate “corrective” rape of “sluts” and “harlots.”

In a manifesto announcing the subreddit to the world, the user known as PhilosophyOfRape set forth his basic thesis, which he insists is as “serious as a heart attack.”

Rape served a very important function in mitigating female behavior and keeping it in check. Back in the time of prehistory, a woman couldn’t behave as shamelessly slutty as she can today, because of the risk of catching the eye of the wrong male. But now, with “consent” laws barring nature back, and feminism and sexual-liberation perverting whole generations of hearts and minds, we find ourselves in a situation gone way, way, too far.

These harpies need to be humbled. And for their own good. Like the child with absolutely no boundaries and no discipline, they may feel they yearn for no rules, but become absolutely lost without an adult to tell them no! …

It’s not only morally justifiable to rape such a woman, it’s and brave.

At the risk of stating the obvious, this isn’t true for all female human beings. We’re not talking about nuns or grandmothers or humble, married, women of twenty years.

We’re talking about filthy, unmitigated, sluts. Oblivious and loud. Shameless. Belligerent. Entitled. Selfie taking, Tindr-whoring, Teenage-walking-herpes-sores. We are talking about bad, bad, individuals. Unruly, neglicted, children, run-amok. That badly need to be punished. Badly.

For the good of society these women need to be raped.

Here we will teach how to do it safely.

Emphasis mine, typos his.

By “safely” he means safely for the rapists, of course. In a followup post, he explained that

We are here to provide encouragement and advice how to [rape] and do it safely. Regression analysis to find out which variables make it less likely to get into legal trouble. Very few women report the rapes, what can you do to make it even less likely? Example: remind the victim that “no one will believe them”. When they orgasm (which is actually very common during rape, Google it) speak up and let them know that you are aware of it and that it will come out during trial if they reported it.

As he sees it, his program should have a good deal of appeal to the “Elliot Rodger types” of the world.

[T]here are swarms and swarms of filth parading around downtown and around campus every friday and saturday night, very badly needing to be Corrected. And there are many men out there fit to do it with just a little encouragement. The Elliot Rodger types could so easily be making a difference and gaining a purpose with just a little direction and support. I am not a “neckbeardy” type or a perma-virge or anything like that. I’ve had consentual sex with 9 girls, and have had serious relationships etc. But I do have a great deal of sympathy for these guys.

Indeed, PhilosophyOfRape hopes to transform “these guys” into a holy army of rapists:

I hate my generation, they at scum and filth and are not worthy to breathe my air. The brutish and ignorant apes that pass for men are bad, but it is their double X chromosomed counterparts that truly defile the word “human” by associating it with their detestable essences. It is the harlots that are in the greatest need of corrective discipline and it is for these harlots that the appropriate punishment is most clear: rape. Simple, swift, brutal, rape. Impassioned and indiacriminate. A whole team of holy soldiers, cutting these abominations down to a place where their feeble heads can even see Their selves for the meek and lowly creatures they are, and will greatfully bow, averting their eyes in humility and spending their dazed working quietly, tending the home and reflecting on HOW they had once thought it fit to behave.

Emphasis mine.

In a now-deleted comment on the Men’s Rights subreddit that can still be found in his comment history, PhlilosophyOfRape suggested that Emma Watson was a good example of a

harlot [who] needs to be Corrected. As badly as any of them and perhaps even more so because she made choices that allowed her to retain an image with a semblance of dignity. But it is only a veneer.

And in another comment, he responded to a violent threat from a critic with a threat of his own, writing that “I’d love to rape you to death. And your daughter.”

Even more disturbingly, in a comment on TheRedPill subreddit, PhilosophyOfRape claimed that he has raped seven women so far, and that he successfully convinced a friend to rape yet another:

These harlots need to be Corrected. I so far have Corrected 7. Two last year but over five already in 2014 and a brother I’ve brought into the fold has already Corrected his first one, a vile, putrid, one.

PhilosophyOfRape, or some troll inspired by his writings, has posted some of these things on 8chan as well, where they’ve gotten essentially zero traction.

Is he lying? Is he trolling? Possibly, though it’s worth pointing out that Elliot Rodger’s even more outlandish manifesto would have likely been dismissed as the work of a troll had its release to the world not come on the heels of Rodger’s grotesque killing spree. I can only hope that PhilosophyOfRape’s claim to have raped 7 women is a lie. But beyond that he seems quite sincere.

Even if he is trolling, what he’s written is hate speech, and one wonders why Reddit’s admins, who have certainly been notified about PhilosophyOfRape – the user and the subreddit – haven’t banned him outright.

But looking the other way seems to be the modus operandi of Reddit’s admins.

Reddit has won itself a well-deserved reputation as a place where anything goes – particularly if that “anything” involves the degradation of women. During the debacle known as The Fappening, Reddit’s admins allowed their site become one of the primary internet conduits for the distribution of a virtual cache of illegally obtained celebrity nudes – including some featuring celebs who were underage when their pictures were taken. The admins only took TheFappening subreddit down when it appeared they might face legal consequences. By then the subreddit had already racked up hundreds of millions of pageviews, earning Reddit enough to pay for its server costs for several months (and possibly much more).

The admins’ casual tolerance for TheFappening wasn’t much of a surprise to anyone who has paid attention to the site for any length of time. Reddit for years hosted an assortment of subreddits devoted to sexualized, often stolen pictures of underage girls – even honoring the man responsible for the popular JailBait subreddit with an Reddit Alien statuette as an award; the admins only banned the subreddits after activists and an assortment of media outlets reported that child porn was being openly traded on r/jailbait.

The trouble is, this sort of awfulness appeals enormously to Reddit’s user base; even if they don’t partake in it themselves, Redditors tend to react with outrage whenever the admins – belatedly – take down subreddits that have become a danger to the site’s reputation. Jailbait was an extraordinarily popular subreddit, and many Redditors still mourn the day it was taken down.

And while PhilosophyOfRape has only picked up a tiny handful of subscribers in the first few days of its existence – and a small army of detractors who’ve collectively spammed the subreddit with kitten pics – other subreddits with a similar, er, appeal –from RapingWomen and BeatingWomen2 to HotRapeStories and ChokeABitch – collectively have thousands of subscribers. CuteFemaleCorpses, a subreddit devoted to sexualizing pictures of actual dead women, managed to rack up a little more than 800,000 pageviews last month. The WatchPeopleDie subreddit boasts 44,000 subscribers.

Racism also sells. The cartoonishly racist GreatApes subreddit, devoted to over the top attacks on “n*ggers” that make Stormfront seem a bastion of tolerance by comparison, generated nearly one million pageviews in September; the subreddit boasts several dozen other smaller subreddits in what it calls its “chimpire,” the overwhelming majority of which contain the word “n*gger” (without the asterisk) or references to apes in their names.

We hear again and again, without much proof, that the people posting on these subreddits are just “trolls,” though much of what they write is little more than a blunter version of what is regularly posted elsewhere on Reddit, from the racist snark in r/videos to the misogyny of r/mensrights and r/theredpill.  Regardless, I’m sure that some of them are trolls.

But there is a very real danger to Reddit’s continuing tolerance of users – and whole communities – driven by hatred. At some point someone – either someone posting hateful screeds like PhilosophyOfRape, or someone inspired by these screeds – is going to take this hate to the real world, as Elliot Rodger did only a few months ago. (If he’s telling the truth about the rapes, PhilosophyOfRape already has.) PhilosophyOfRape may be nothing but hot, fetid air — I perhaps naively hope —  but I think it’s a virtual certainty that some day, possibly quite soon, Reddit itself is going to give birth to another Elliot Rodger.

And then the Reddit administrators will have blood on their hands.

EDIT: If you want to report PhilosophyOfRape to the authorities, the FBI’s tip page is here.

EDIT 2: Clarified some things in the final paragraph.

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kittehserf - MOD
kittehserf - MOD
7 years ago

I’d be asking why the hell Reddit hasn’t passed on his details to the FBI or whatever the relevant police agency is.

ryeash
7 years ago

Fuck Reddit.

contrapangloss
7 years ago

Cute corpses? What the everloving… HOW THE HECK ARE THEY ABLE TO TAKE PICTURES OF DEAD WOMEN?

No. No. No. No. No.

Not dealing with this now.

http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/oh-shi.gif

Shekka
Shekka
7 years ago

And dont forget that for all the shit with the Fappening, Philosophy Of Rape, other misogynist communities, Misters running buck wild and the hate groups making participation for women and minorities on reddit a living hell that they shadowbanned the moderator of /r/Blackladies for “Upsetting the culture” of the very subs you mentioned. Because she started a community wide petition to get the admins to do something about the horrible users and what they were doing to her/other subs.

ryeash
7 years ago

And I would like to cordially invite anyone involved with that subreddit to fuck the underside of a running lawnmower.

strivingally
7 years ago

I got about as far as seeing “consent” in quotstion marks before I stopped reading every word and started skimming. Anybody who thinks consent is a mockable notion isn’t putting forward any ideas that are worth noting – except, of course, as a glimpse into the mindset of predators.

alaisvex
alaisvex
7 years ago

This is too horrifying to put into words. All that I can say is that I don’t think that taking down the subreddit is enough, though obviously they should take it down on the grounds that it’s explicitly promoting violence and giving advice on how to rape women and get away with it. Speech that incites and aids violence and illegal activity isn’t protected as free speech. However, given that this piece of pond scum who got expelled from pond scum society for being too scummy has admitted to committing seven rapes, inciting an eighth rape in person, and planning to commit as many rapes in the future as he feels are necessary, I think that an effort should be made to report him to the police.

strivingally
7 years ago

Waiting for “SJW false flag!” accusation in 3, 2, 1 …

BreakfastMan
7 years ago

Whelp, this is just about the worst thing I have ever read in the history of ever. BRB, dunking my head in a big ol’ bucket of brain-bleach.

sparky
sparky
7 years ago

Oh. Well, I guess I really didn’t need to sleep tonight. Or the rest of my life. Or maintain that one little shred of naive hope for humanity.

Seriously, though, even if this guy is trolling, he’s fucking dangerous. This is just outright encouragement to rapists. This is outright “How to Commit Rape 101.”

And that whole, “the filth must be punished” thing? That’s like serial killer mentality there.

I …can’t engage with this right now. I’m off to find some cute animals to post.

katz
7 years ago

I’m actually unsurprised. Reddit is literally incapable of surprising me anymore.

thebewilderness
thebewilderness
7 years ago

Serial killers love to brag about their exploits. This d00d needs to be looked at very very closely by law enforcement. Any missing women in his area?

grumpyoldnurse
grumpyoldnurse
7 years ago

humble, married, women of twenty years.

Wheesh! So very grateful that I’m off your list, dude. Thank-you ever so much for not planning to rape me, personally.

Now, please, stay the everloving f*** away from my nieces, my cousins, my daughter, my younger co-workers, my perceptor student, the high-school girls who walk by my place every morning, and every woman on planet Earth. Also, why isn’t law enforcement investigating this asshat? He’s bragged about seven violent crimes and inciting an eighth. How much more does anyone need to investigate him?

cloudiah
7 years ago

They shadowbanned a popular mod simply for organizing a campaign to get the Reddit admins to do something about subs for women of color that were getting spammed by racists.

But this guy still has an account in good standing.

alaisvex
alaisvex
7 years ago

As an aside, let me get this straight. According to Redpill philosophy, women shouldn’t deny men sex because sex is pleasurable for men. Women also should dress to flatter their bodies and use makeup and whatever other mean’s necessary to make them look prettier and more sexually desirable because men want women to look as pretty and fuckable as possible. Following this logic, women who like having sex, want to have sex with lots of men (thereby distributing what is supposed to be a precious resource that women unfairly hoard) to lots of men, and enjoy looking attractive and sexy (which should be considered good because feminists are teh ebul for not shaving or not wearing makeup or dressing too mannishly, except when they do shave, wear makeup, and dress sexily because they they’re being whores looking to oppress men with teh sexy) should be considered heroes.

But alas, no. In Red Pilladise, being promiscuous and dressing like a slut is also bad. So bad, in fact, that this guy who finds redpillocks inspiring thinks that women who do things that they’ve been told please men are so evil that they should be punished by being raped. Granted, the pillocks have given him net nine down votes thus far, meaning that his comment is buried, but he stills finds them influential and still purports to be a pretty significant threat to women whom he knows and whom he encounters all on his own.

seraph4377
7 years ago

Went and checked it out. The good news, at least in terms of faith in humanity, is that all of PoR’s posts have been downvoted into oblivion and the subreddit is now flooded with pictures of cute kittens.

pollydactyl
7 years ago

This is just sickening. I do truly fear that there will be another Elliot Rodgers. I was there, and no one else should have to go through anything like that. Very rarely do any posts upset me so much, but I think I need to get off the internet now for a while.

Hotwired90
Hotwired90
7 years ago

My thoughts exactly! Love the gif! @contrapangloss

grumpyoldnurse
grumpyoldnurse
7 years ago

@ alaisvex – Yep. Teh wimminz iz ebil!!1!!!!1!!

@ seraph4377 – Yeah for kitties!! Kitties everywhere!

Tom J. Nelson
7 years ago

The good news is that the first twenty or so comments I read all where about telling him what a loser he is.

tesformes
7 years ago

I just want to remind everyone that Reddit is perfectly fine with hosting subs it has previously banned, as long as they change their name and cover their asses a bit. /r/creepshots, which was devoted to taking pictures of the asses and cleavage of unconsenting women, reemerged soon after the ViolentAcrez debacle as /r/CandidFashionPolice. It has proceeded along the same lines as before with no interference from the admins because it maintains a thin, circlejerky pretense of critiquing women’s fashion choices, not gawking at their bodies. /r/nigg&rs was only banned for vote brigading, not for their violent hate speech. And there still exist subreddits devoted to sharing links to the Fappening leaks, again receiving no interference from the mods because the images are not being directly linked from Reddit.

It would seem that the only moral stance Reddit is willing to make on its subreddits is against vote brigading.

alaisvex
alaisvex
7 years ago

Praise Jeebus, this guy isn’t gaining traction! Hopefully, the subreddit goes down, and this fucker gets reported to the police soon.

fruitloopsie
fruitloopsie
7 years ago

http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130224091403/glee/images/6/65/-nope.gif
I really hope that this guy and people like him will go to jail forever.

http://youtu.be/gHjAdnslnbg

Tom i Nelson
I think ‘loser’ is a BIG understatement but yay for good news

jojo
jojo
7 years ago

As an aside, let me get this straight. According to Redpill philosophy, women shouldn’t deny men sex because sex is pleasurable for men. Women also should dress to flatter their bodies and use makeup and whatever other mean’s necessary to make them look prettier and more sexually desirable because men want women to look as pretty and fuckable as possible. Following this logic, women who like having sex, want to have sex with lots of men (thereby distributing what is supposed to be a precious resource that women unfairly hoard) to lots of men, and enjoy looking attractive and sexy (which should be considered good because feminists are teh ebul for not shaving or not wearing makeup or dressing too mannishly, except when they do shave, wear makeup, and dress sexily because they they’re being whores looking to oppress men with teh sexy) should be considered heroes.

But alas, no. In Red Pilladise, being promiscuous and dressing like a slut is also bad. So bad, in fact, that this guy who finds redpillocks inspiring thinks that women who do things that they’ve been told please men are so evil that they should be punished by being raped. Granted, the pillocks have given him net nine down votes thus far, meaning that his comment is buried, but he stills finds them influential and still purports to be a pretty significant threat to women whom he knows and whom he encounters all on his own.

The reason why they think that a woman actually having control of her own sexuality is so henious is that they are abusive and entitled. They hate the idea of a woman not existing for them.

friday jones
friday jones
7 years ago

These the-way-it-was-back-in-caveman-days guys are almost universally the types that would be beaten severely by the more dominant males for even coming near a fertile feeeeemale. If they were one half as “alpha” as they imagine themselves, they’d be happily coupled RIGHT NOW and would not harbor this vast resentment they are nurturing within themselves. These are men who lack the honesty or courage to just say what they want, so they seethe with resentment that the women around them see these men as the mendacious manipulators that they are.

alaisvex
alaisvex
7 years ago

And…one of PoR’s supporters is sung the nyn real-boethius. I think that these guys should be banned from using ancient philosophers’ names because it constitutes defamation.

In more positive news, at least one person reading the subreddit has already reporting him to the authorities. https://www.reddit.com/user/BaadKitteh

LBT
LBT
7 years ago

You know, it’s interesting to me. I underwent corrective rape to make me less ace, and apparently it’s also for people who’re “too” sexual. It’s almost like these douchewaffles don’t really care as long as they can claim an excuse to rape SOMEBODY.

(I may sound flippant, but at this point, I almost feel like rape has lost its horror for me. Once your family’s involved, strangers are hard-pressed to come up with something more soulcrushing. These guys are trying to pretend they’re macho powerful vigilantes, and they’re basically just doing the same old shit with the same old reasons. Kittens, indeed.)

alaisvex
alaisvex
7 years ago

Fuck, I meant “has already reported him to the authorities.”

sparky
sparky
7 years ago

More belugas. They look for holes in the ice so they can surface to breath.

Nequam
Nequam
7 years ago

Cute corpses? What the everloving… HOW THE HECK ARE THEY ABLE TO TAKE PICTURES OF DEAD WOMEN?

Trying to wield Occam’s Razor here… I imagine a lot of the photos are ‘shopped, or even of some kind of fetish stuff (google “zombie girl calendar” and you’ll see what I mean.)

LBT
LBT
7 years ago

Also, this seems like a very good place to put this life-affirming comic about a hijabi superhero who saves other women from assholes.

Elektra Kenway
7 years ago

I’ve never even registered in Reddit because, as far as I’ve seen, it’s like a huge forum isn’t it?
I keep seeing articles about all the awful things posted there, and I remember reading somewhere that Reddit is owned by The Huffington Post, but I’m not sure about it. Is it?

This situation is much like Facebook’s. Think of it: breastfeeding pictures get censored there, while, for example, groups and pages that incite pedophiles to commit more crimes do not.

There was a page in Spanish called “there’s no age for love” (for pedophiles), I’m not sure if it’ still up, but I remember reporting it over and over and nothing happened. Same thing for another page called “I’m a man and I hit women”, and another one called “bus girls” that posted unauthorized pictures of women of all ages on public transportation (also including information like the time and place), and so many others.

I thought social networks were responsible for their contents? Silly me.

Anyway, that speaks a lot about Reddit’s admins. If they want to “help” hate speech spread, at least they could make it clear and “official”, right? Just posting a huge warning on the main page and that’s it.

Kane Thari
7 years ago

I am so glad this isn’t getting any traction. This redditor is sick, and his manifesto is beyond disturbing. Someone needs to report him along with all those other creeps. Please, please, please let it all just be talk and bluster. If not, to quote Farnsworth: “I don’t want to live on this planet anymore.”

Bad_dog
Bad_dog
7 years ago

What the ever-loving fuck did I just read? What is wrong with some people?!

greyskye
greyskye
7 years ago

Wow. fbi.gov just got a visit and submission form from me. That is straight up the most horrifying thing I have ever read on the internet, and I’ve been on here since the mid 90’s.

alaisvex
alaisvex
7 years ago

The reason why they think that a woman actually having control of her own sexuality is so henious is that they are abusive and entitled. They hate the idea of a woman not existing for them.

True. They want impossible standards so that they can always be angry at any woman anywhere and punish her if they want.

LBT
LBT
7 years ago

What’s kind of horrifying to me is just how ordinary shit like this seems to me. My response is mostly, “Yeah, sounds about right, been there.” :

weirwoodtreehugger
7 years ago

LBT,
Not only is corrective rape for being to sequel or not sexual enough, it’s also a way to “cure” lesbians. Barf.

I need several showers after this post.

I’m all for free speech, even when it’s vile, but this is not one of those times. This counts as free speech. This is incitement. I doubt he can be arrested for the rape he confessed to if his victims don’t learn about what he’s doing and come forward, but I’d think he could go down for incitement. I’m not a lawyer though. Maybe I’m wrong.

grumpyoldnurse
grumpyoldnurse
7 years ago

Hey, LBT, that comic was amazing! Thanks so very much for sharing!

Jody
Jody
7 years ago

The nicest thing I could think about this is that it’s a very cleverly set up troll account by a dude that has given it waaaaay too much thought for it to just be a joke.

grumpyoldnurse
grumpyoldnurse
7 years ago

Yeah, never got how anyone could seriously believe that raping a lesbian would “cure” her. At least the asshat in the OP is straight up about his misogyny, and isn’t making BS excuses for his evil.

alaisvex
alaisvex
7 years ago

LBT, I’m sorry that you’ve been through so much that this doesn’t horrify you anymore. 🙁

kittehserf - MOD
kittehserf - MOD
7 years ago

LBT – love that comic!

greyskye – YES! Let’s hope they act on it.

ChelleG
ChelleG
7 years ago

Can someone please explain to me what in the holy hell reddit is even remotely useful for other than attracting the dregs of humanity.

alaisvex
alaisvex
7 years ago

ChelleG, I think that that’s exactly what reddit is good for. It’s the hangout for everyone who got banned from other sites. But then I think that there are some more benign subreddits. Plus there’s r/shitredditsays, r/bluepill, and r/againstmen’srights.

Also, LBT, awesome comic.

Greyskye, thank you so much for reporting this!

kirbywarp
kirbywarp
7 years ago

Really makes you wonder what it would take to make the admins step up their game and do some moderating. What state of mind must you be in to have spent time and money making this beautiful and wonderful platform of free speech and free discourse, watch it get taken over by pedophiles and rapists, and still believe your dream is achievable if you just let the shit fester?

Tigerbos
Tigerbos
7 years ago

Why doesn’t law enforcement round up these douchebags like they do in child pornography and lock them up? Obviously if someone’s philosophy is to use what they deem as ‘rape correction’ they’ve probably already committed this crime to begin with.

LBT
LBT
7 years ago

RE: WWTH

Not only is corrective rape for being to sequel or not sexual enough, it’s also a way to “cure” lesbians. Barf.

Rape! Good for everything! Also cures warts and cancer!

RE: grumpyoldnurse

that comic was amazing! Thanks so very much for sharing!

Now seemed a very appropriate time.

RE: alaisvex

I’m sorry that you’ve been through so much that this doesn’t horrify you anymore. 🙁

I would too if it weren’t so damn handy. *wince*

seraph4377
7 years ago

@ kirbywarp: I suspect that state of mind could be described as “white libertarian dudebro”: the right of people like themselves to do whatever they please outweighs the well-being of everyone else, who should learn to take a joke anyway.

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