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Today in the fight against imaginary oppression: Men's Rightser furious over "Hire a Hubby."

The outrage!
The outrage!

So over on the Men’s Rights subreddit, one mangry MRA is outraged to discover the existence of a handyman company in his area called “Hire a Hubby,” which apparently oppresses him as a man because, well, I’m not sure why it oppresses him exactly. Anyway, he asks the classic MRA question WHAT IF THE GENDERS WERE REVERSED!!???

Huh. What would happen if there were a catering or cleaning company called Hire a Wife?

Well, brace yourself because whatever would happen already did happen, because there are a bunch of companies called that. One in the Detroit area. One in Calgary. One in Kirkland, Washington. One in Tasmania.

And then there’s Wife for Hire in North Carolina.

I for one am outraged. At least by the web design of that last page. Hey, 1997 called and wanted its scrolling marquee back!

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Shaun DarthBatman Day
6 years ago

“What’s it called when someone desperately tries to imagine what’s already happened?”

Misandry

LBT
LBT
6 years ago

RE: cloudiah

In other news, MRAs have discovered yet another jpeg that will BRING FEMINISM DOWN:

Jesus Christ, that’s godawful to read. So much capslock, so much text, no paragraph breaks.

RE: daintydougal

Also, is male circumcision really ‘promoted’ in the states?

Even here, rates seem to be falling, which I’m glad about. But again, feminism isn’t responsible for the prevalence of male circumcision in the US; you can thank some crackpot health specialists for that, who believed circumcision would prevent masturbation and some such shit. (And then later apparently it was some bizarre idea that all penises should look the same in a family or a locker room, because I don’t even understand, WTF.) Now, it might be fluctuating because it’s associated with lower risk of certain infectious diseases like HIV.

Last I heard, the female version had no such health benefits, and would lead to much lower sexual function. But who cares, these guys are insisting on comparing apples and oranges.

thebewilderness
thebewilderness
6 years ago

Women spend all the money is one of my classic all time favorite argument from ignorance examples. Which is also what the “what if” guy is arguing. The only question is whether it is real true genuine ignorance of the willful variety.

Noadi
6 years ago

Also, is male circumcision really ‘promoted’ in the states? (I’m the assuming the ‘creator’ of the ‘piece’ is USian) being the norm isn’t necessarily the same as promotion…

No, most organizations of pediatricians in the US have a neutral stance saying it’s up to the parents and there is not government promotion of it. The UN does promote male circumcision in countries with high HIV rates because there are studies showing it reduces transmission but they still promote condom use much more strongly because it’s more effective.

Do I agree with infant male circumcision in the US? Absolutely not, I think it’s unethical to perform unnecessary cosmetic medical procedures on minors. Do I think the UN is wrong to promote circumcision in areas with high HIV rates? Absolutely not, the tradeoff is worth it to prevent HIV infections. It’s almost like there are nuances to issues.

Bina
Bina
6 years ago

OMG, their graphix are Teh Shite. Do they seriously believe a wall-o-nonsense is any more worth reading if they stick it on top of a flaming graphic? Or at the bottom of a stick-people ‘toon? Menz Rightzers can’t design shit.

Bina
Bina
6 years ago

Also, that “women spend 90% more than they earn”? Aside from questionable unsourced stats, these guys don’t care that the reason for this is that married women are expected not only to earn less, but to do the grocery, clothes, etc., shopping for the entire household. Because that’s “women’s work” and thus beneath the dignity of the Breadwinning Macho Man.

strivingally
6 years ago

Yeah, Bina, the moment I read that bullshit the first thought that popped into my head was “Of course women spend all the money, they’re expected to buy all the things while their husbands are at work!”.

In my household I do the weekly grocery shopping. Funnily enough, I spend far more than my partner does per week in “domestic spending”. But that’s why we have a joint bank account and have agreed to do things that way – a circumstance that the ass-tistical analysis in that meme fails to address.

blahlistic (@blahlistic)

When I was a kid my friend and I would paint rooms in our bikinis.

Paint comes off of skin a lot easier than it does clothes. Practical.

…I dunno if I can write slash of Woody and Paul Elam.
I may attempt, but make no promises.

vaiyt
6 years ago

Have you ever thought that maybe those terrible jpgs are done on purpose? Somebody in there decided that readable, pleasant looking graphics were misandry, and they’ve been fucking up their designs ever since?

LBT
LBT
6 years ago

RE: David

Stay classy, Men’s Rights Movement. *eyeroll*

Michelle C Young
6 years ago

@Marinerachel – on behalf of Mormons, I apologize for the pestering.

@Cloudiah – Ummmm, is that supposed to be two kids standing in front of a fireman, while a backdraft engulfs them? What awful artwork.

@DJG – Yeah, having someone to go with you to company picnics, weddings, bowling, the opera, what-have-you. If one spouse just hates it, it’s bound to cause friction. But if you don’t want to go alone… I think having a hired escort for the event makes a whole lot of sense. The person who wants/needs to go, but doesn’t want to go alone, is satisfied, and the one who doesn’t want to/can’t go is only inconvenienced by the price of the service. Sometimes, there are excellent reasons not to attend, but also sometimes it make very good sense to bring someone, especially someone of the opposite sex. And not all people in a marriage have platonic best friends of the opposite sex that they could ask.

There are real escort services in big cities, where women want to go to the symphony on the arm of some man-in-suit, but try finding that it in the suburbs.

I love the names of all these moving companies! Also “gobbling in outrage” is a wonderful phrase.

lacerta viridis
lacerta viridis
6 years ago

@Bina Yeah, I was thinking the exact same thing – even assuming that statistic is true I suspect all this feeeemale spending is a LOT more likely to be ‘food and clothing for their families’ than ‘teehee, I’m going to spend my poor downtrodden man’s hard earned money on shoes and diamonds!’

Also I really don’t think that you can leap from ‘men only spend 40% of their paycheck’ to ‘therefore the other 60% must go to EVIL WOMEN’. Do no men ever have savings accounts? Make donations to charity? Invest their money in something? Put it towards their kids’ college funds? The idea that the only two possible options for money are you either spend it instantly or a woman will grab it, is… pretty weird.

Michelle C Young
6 years ago

Re: Women spend all the money.

Well, yeah, in a traditional marriage, that these guys think is ideal, the woman doesn’t earn ANY money, but she’s the one who does all the grocery shopping.

Add those numbers up, and it’s going to wind up that she “spends his money” at a rather high rate. The fact that he then consumes those groceries is lost.

Michelle C Young
6 years ago

@Noadi

It’s almost like there are nuances to issues.

No kidding!

But these guys don’t get nuance.

Michelle C Young
6 years ago

@vaiyt

Have you ever thought that maybe those terrible jpgs are done on purpose? Somebody in there decided that readable, pleasant looking graphics were misandry, and they’ve been fucking up their designs ever since?

Oh, I hurt myself laughing.

Michelle C Young
6 years ago

@lacerta viridis – yeah, it’s like they don’t realize that funds are fungible.

Michelle C Young
6 years ago

Totally and completely off topic, because I just have to share this.

My sister (the one we call “Slappy,”) was herself the other night. Mom was looking at her mail, and said that a particular piece of mail would require some concentration to deal with it. So Slappy said, “Let’s sing the concentration song!”

“We’re gonna help you concentrate.
LALALALALALALALALAAAAAAA!
Concentration takes peace and quiet.
LALALALALALALALALAAAAAAA!”

I love living with my sister. When she lost her home, and needed a place to live, I was dancing with joy at my sister’s homelessness, because it meant she would live with ME!

Yeah, I’m selfish.

Grace
Grace
6 years ago

Re the first horrible graphic, “80% of all suicides are men” – more or less true, but not the whole picture. I quote suicide researcher John Weaver: “[There is] a persistent and substantial difference between the completed suicide rates of men and women. Explanations for this difference often include the caveat that women who attempt suicide greatly outnumber men. The gap must not be considered a quantitative measure of relative gender suffering…men and women consistently had recourse to different methods of self-destruction.” (from John C. Weaver, “Sorrows of a Century”)

Shaun DarthBatman Day
6 years ago

“Re: Women spend all the money.

Well, yeah, in a traditional marriage, that these guys think is ideal, the woman doesn’t earn ANY money, but she’s the one who does all the grocery shopping.

Add those numbers up, and it’s going to wind up that she “spends his money” at a rather high rate. The fact that he then consumes those groceries is lost.”

And *even though* this is the family model they desire, the women are not entitled to any money and the work they do isn’t “real” work and they are leeches poor men are so oppressed. Women working is MISANDRY. Women who are homemakers are MISANDRY. The only situation that *isn’t* MISANDRY is when the woman earns her own money, pays exactly half the bills, and does all of the housework and childcare and shopping (which doesn’t count as bills, that’s just wimmin spendin’ all the moneez) and keeps the remote control packed with fresh batteries.

Michelle C Young
6 years ago

@Shaun DarthBatman Day

Yep.

Bina
Bina
6 years ago

In my household I do the weekly grocery shopping. Funnily enough, I spend far more than my partner does per week in “domestic spending”. But that’s why we have a joint bank account and have agreed to do things that way – a circumstance that the ass-tistical analysis in that meme fails to address.

Joint bank accounts? Why, that’s — that’s — that’s — MISANDRY!!!

lacerta viridis
lacerta viridis
6 years ago

@Shaun DarthBatman Day

“The only situation that *isn’t* MISANDRY is when the woman earns her own money, pays exactly half the bills, and does all of the housework and childcare and shopping”

No, I’m pretty sure that’s still MISANDRY. If she’s earning less than her husband but paying half the bills then she must be spending a higher percentage of her pay than him, which as we have already seen is MISANDRY and totally the same thing as stealing his money. And if she earns more than him I’m pretty sure that’s emasculating him and putting her career above her family and other terrible misandrous things.

As far as I can tell, a woman existing = MISANDRY.

Shaun DarthBatman Day
6 years ago

I exist! My daily act of misandry is complete, and I didn’t have to not have sex to do it! Although I didn’t have sex, so I doubled my daily act of misandry! I am fucking awesome at misandry!

Shaun DarthBatman Day
6 years ago

I also passed on the recipe for a Misandrini to a mangina.

***YOU CANNOT UNKNOW THIS****

2 parts vodka, 1 part WMT, strained over ice and garnished with a dried scrotum. Or olive. IMO they are equally desirable.

***IT IS NOW SAFE TO READ OTHER POSTS. MOSTLY***

Michelle C Young
6 years ago

I nominate Shaun DarthBatman Day for Misandrist of the Year!

Shaun DarthBatman Day
6 years ago

Seriously, though, olives are disgusting.

Shaun DarthBatman Day
6 years ago

Honestly I live in the most misogynist city in Canada. It gives me more opportunities for misandry, so I think the election process should reflect that. It’s an honour just to be nominated, though.

Michelle C Young
6 years ago

Well, I’m off. Gonna go be an evil fake-gamer-geek girl and play vidya games.

kittehserf - MOD
kittehserf - MOD
6 years ago

They’d only be happy if the ‘hubby’ rented was hired to sit on the couch and play vidya games. Preferably while eating sammiches.

Robert, that’s exactly what I thought. Plus beer, belching, farting and scratching his balls, then getting sex on demand, of course.

What’re the odds that’s why this dudebro’s so outraged – he applied for a job and then found out actual work’s involved? 😀

When I needed help moving the Mormons came to my rescue. They preached to me six hours each way and still pester me regularly about the good news. I should have just hired a husband.

Shit, that’s a high price to pay for removals! 🙁

Cassie’s Major Domo, that’s a great name! 😀 Company’s been around a good long while, too, which is good to see.

Well, feminism *is* the giant wrong tree everyone keeps barking up, as we know.

Especially kitties! ::preens::

Also, is male circumcision really ‘promoted’ in the states? (I’m the assuming the ‘creator’ of the ‘piece’ is USian) being the norm isn’t necessarily the same as promotion…

The barf-worthy poster was about the UN, not the US.

OMG Michelle, the Concentration Song! That’s the best! XD

strivingally
6 years ago

I wonder if it’ll ever occur to these guys that part of the reason “Hire A Wife” doesn’t sit well is precisely because of the way women’s unpaid work is undervalued by society, in other words, because so many people share the backwards-ass views that these misters have of what women should do for no reward, just because they’re women.

DJG
DJG
6 years ago

@ Michelle C Young – I recall being in high school and filling in once at a country club dinner when my father cancelled late in the day. It seemed to go all right, only my mother was furious with me afterwards for not asking any of the other women at the table to dance. (Not that that would have happened even if anyone had told me – I’d only gotten through a compulsory ballroom dancing class because fortunately there was a future lesbian as well as myself to represent Team LG – this was before B and T, let alone other letters – so that we were both set for the duration and actually won a prize at the Christmas party for the best cha-cha.) Had I needed a push, that would have been enough to put me off gender roles for life.

Buttercup Q. Skullpants

I’d like to see Hire an MGTOW. Call them, and they’ll tell you they won’t show up at your doorstep. But then they will anyway, and leave a flaming bag of crap. Then they’ll peek through the curtains to see if you’re home and if you noticed.

blahlistic (@blahlistic)

How would one get crap to flame?
Uhh…not like this…Why didn’t he just roll it and put it in a dumpster???

http://www.komonews.com/news/local/Seattle-police-discover-flaming-bag-of-poop-behind-East-Precinct–261607791.html

thebewilderness
thebewilderness
6 years ago

Lighter fluid is the most popular means.

grumpycatisagirl
6 years ago

I’d like to see Hire an MGTOW. Call them, and they’ll tell you they won’t show up at your doorstep. But then they will anyway, and leave a flaming bag of crap. Then they’ll peek through the curtains to see if you’re home and if you noticed.

Ha! I love this comment.

Dvärghundspossen
6 years ago

I’d like to see Hire an MGTOW. Call them, and they’ll tell you they won’t show up at your doorstep. But then they will anyway, and leave a flaming bag of crap. Then they’ll peek through the curtains to see if you’re home and if you noticed.

I LOL:ed so hard at this!

proxieme
proxieme
6 years ago

Today I learned that I’m a flaming misandrist because I’m currently a stay-at-home mom to three FLAGRANTLY (FLAGRANTLY) spending all of my husband’s money on food (that I then cook), cleaning supplies (which I overwhelmingly use because I personally think that an uneven domestic split’s fair if one spouse works full time and has a hellish commute and the other has the legitimate option to stay in his or her PJs all day), clothing (including for him because he hates to shop), utilities, and our investments (which are all horribly misandrist, of course, because they’re overwhelmingly in both of our names – not just his).

Good to know.
Thanks for the edumacation, horrific MRA meme -_-

proxieme
proxieme
6 years ago

Oh, I’ve also spent a good sum of money on Tae Kwon Do, swimming, gymnastics, dance, and soccer lessons…

…because I hate men.

Especially, apparently, my husband who likely spends less than 5% of his income per month.

*adjusts misandrist crown*

proxieme
proxieme
6 years ago

*thinks*

So those stay-at-home dads that I know…are they, like, Master Alphas because they get to interact scads of feeeemales every day while spending a feeemale’s money or are they the lowest of the low manginas because they’re stuck doing so much unthinking, easy women’s work?

C’mon, MRAs!
Tighten up your narrative!

We need to resolve this pressing question.

Phoenician in a time of Romans
Phoenician in a time of Romans
6 years ago

Blahtastic: How would one get crap to flame?

Mwuhuhuhuhuhuhuh – with enough oxygen, ANYTHING can flame!!!

beegees
beegees
6 years ago

RE:women spend all the money

Is it just me or dudebros seem to assume that life should be as easy as if they were still living at their parents, spending all their money on cars and electronics? Mother works and couple spends all their money on daycare? BWAHHH my man monies!!! Mother stays home to save on the costs of childcare? BWAHHHH my monies!!!!!! Mother leaves, and man has to spend 1/3 of what it actually costs to raise a child as child support? BWAHHHHH my monies!!!!!!!

Honestly I blame the middle-aged parents for spoiling their children. There’s a gender divide regarding how much sons are expected do around the house. And adult children of either gender should not be living a life of luxury by spending most their money on toys while their parents take care of all the necessities.

beegees
beegees
6 years ago

http://adultchildrenlivingathome.com/blog/2013/06/infographic-percentage-of-adult-children-living-at-home-1983-2011/

Just to be clear, I’m not saying that living with your parents/getting help from your parents makes you “spoiled”, I’m saying that an adult refusing to take responsibility for themselves and their money as much as possible is spoiled.

Sorry for the crappy phone editing. It will only post urls to the top.

Anyway, it’s funny because all the dudbros complain that women are coddled and men are just thown to the wolves, but over the last couple decades there has been consistantly more men living at home than women.

Leisha Young
Leisha Young
6 years ago

I want to see hire-a-homo, or hire-a-he/she. I will not stop protesting until everyone is covered. If one is exploited, then all must be exploited evenly!

Or…I just had a great thought…how about a company called “hire someone who will do what you can’t be f***d doing regardless of gender”…I can really see it catching on :-).

Apologies to anyone who is gay, lesbian and/or transexual or transgender. I do not mean to offend, just to make a point.

Personally I don’t give a fat rat’s a****le who cleans my house or mows my lawns, as long as they come recommended and do a decent f*****g job.

kittehserf - MOD
kittehserf - MOD
6 years ago

There won’t be Real Rights until cats have a Hire A Human service.

… uh, wait, that’d mean they’d have to pay the servants.

Never mind.