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Emma Watson is dating a rugby player. CHECKMATE FEMINISM!?

Red Pillers agree: Emma Watson isn't all that, anyway.
Red Pillers agree: Emma Watson isn’t all that, anyway.

Never doubt the ingenuity of the internet’s misogynists in coming up with new reasons to hate a woman they’re already inclined to hate.

Actress and geek icon Emma Watson has been near the top of the new Misogyny hate list all this week, in the wake of the speech she gave at the UN gently praising feminism and suggesting that traditional gender roles aren’t always such a good thing for dudes either. She’s made this point before, declaring in a Tweet last month that

But wait, the Red Pillers of the internet declare: Watson is herself dating a hunky jock rather than a “bald scrawny impoverished poet.”

WHERE IS YOUR FEMINISM NOW?

According to the UK’s Daily Mirror, Watson is currently dating a fellow Oxford student who also happens to be 1) gigantic 2) a rugby player and 3) handsome. As The Mirror put it

Matt was dubbed Oxford’s most eligible bachelor and was previously named the best looking player in his on-field position by the university rugby team’s Twitter account.

I know, you’re probably not exactly shocked – shocked! – to discover that a famous actress is dating a handsome dude. But in the Red Pill precincts of the internet, the regulars think they’ve got their CHECKMATE FEMINISM.

Right wing “journalist” and blogger Robert Stacey McCain triumphantly cackled

All the hot babes like Emma Watson are crazy for guys who don’t fit “prescribed gender stereotypes,” right? So you will probably be surprised to learn that Emma Watson is dating a bald scrawny impoverished poet the biggest jock at an elite university. …

In other words, an Alpha male, the epitome of “prescribed gender stereotypes” from which Emma Watson says we need to be liberated.

Smart young fellows figure out that listening to what women say is less important than watching what women do. Women are constantly saying they want sensitive Ashley Wilkes types, even while they’re actually going crazy for the Rhett Butler types. …

When all is said and done, the basic human sex instinct is still as simple as, “Me Tarzan, you Jane.” 

On the Red Pill subreddit, the regulars celebrated what they saw as a great victory over feminism. Redpillbanana seconded McCain’s “analysis.”

As a man in our new feminist world, you are liberated from your gender stereotype and have permission to be vulnerable and human. And women have permission to dump you for the next nearby alpha male who decided that he doesn’t need to be liberated from his gender stereotype.

Other Red Pillers made sure that everyone knew that they didn’t think Emma Watson was all that hot anyway.

Ill_mumble_that 168 points 3 days ago   Is it just me, or is he way out of her league? Her celebrity status is the only reason she's not a plate, or maybe she still is.

WOULD NOT BANG.

ohsweetword 34 points 3 days ago   It's mostly beta boys and comic geeks that fap to her. She's a 6 at best. Never understood the appeal.  I'm sure this guy is just using her for her status though and has plenty of chicks to bang.

Meanwhile, proudly racist, woman-hating dating guru Heartiste offered these, er, thoughts on the matter, in his trademark, er, style:

Feminism long ago abandoned any pretense to logic or internal consistency. It’s nothing but feels all day, every day, with an extra helping of feels. Watson’s rationalization hamster, like most rodents residing in the brains of her callow ilk, is 700% thigh and 800% glutes. A swole spinner on the wheel of ego-masturbation.

Ok then.

So how do you respond to this sort of thing? Point out that Watson was previously dating a guy who most Red Pillers would probably consider a big ol beta? Post examples of conventionally hot actresses who’ve dated “nerds” and intellectuals and otherwise not stereotypically macho men – from Marilyn Monroe (playwright Arthur Miller) to Christina Hendricks (nerdy actor Geoffrey Arend, who’s not even as famous as her).

But what’s the point? All you have to do is step outside to see examples of happy couples who don’t fit the “me Tarzan, you Jane” stereotype the Red Pillers are so desperate to assure us is the One True Way.

The human heart and libido are complicated things. Yes, some feminist women date macho dudes. And some traditional women are drawn to nerds. Some women date men who make more money than them; others date guys who are broke. And a lot of women don’t have clear “types” at all. (Watson doesn’t seem to.)

It’s also worth pointing out that, well, you can’t always judge a book by its cover. A gigantic rugby player who is ferocious on the field may be a teddy bear in private. And scrawny nerdy dudes can be horrible people (e.g. Woody Allen).

Feminism doesn’t deny that some women – including some feminists — are drawn to macho men. What feminism says is that traditional gender roles are not the only way to do things.

Emma Watson can date whatever kind of person she wants to date. It’s her own damn business. That’s feminism.

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weirwoodtreehugger
10 years ago

Shadow Nirvana?

Are you exhausted from all that backpedalling? I’m exhausted reading it and my cat Darrow can’t take it eithercomment image

weirwoodtreehugger
10 years ago

Damn that picture is huge. It nearly represents Darrow’s actual size!

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
10 years ago

Darrow is adopting the traditional kitty “ugh, leave me alone” pose. Truly he speaks for all of us today.

Policy of Madness
Policy of Madness
10 years ago

My cat isn’t sure why Shadow_Nirvana interrupted her nap with zir bullshit.

http://imgur.com/K88aVhT

Shadow_Nirvana
10 years ago

Okay. As I mentioned earlier, I didn’t read the article recently. I read it a while back. (I said this before). My first comment was ill-informed on the topic and the “women who clamor for assholes” line was off-topic, I genuinely thought it had something to do with him going to jail because I remember he’s going to jail, hence the inmate reference from Heartiste. The third post was sincere clarification. I read my posts in order again and yes, it does seem assholish, although they were unrelated points they seem related because I posted them in that order and without prior clarification. I’m sorry for any hurt feelings. In the future I’ll try to be more coherent and be more informed before I write.

But I’m still not going to date a woman who writes loveletters to convicts though. No amount of political correctness or cultural marxism will make me do such a thing.

Last paragraph was a joke. Haha.

LBT
LBT
10 years ago

RE: cassandrakitty

Also, you know that bit on the hip on men that’s really pronounced if they’re in great shape?

You mean the Adonis Belt?

Policy of Madness
Policy of Madness
10 years ago

I’m sorry for any hurt feelings.

So close.

LBT
LBT
10 years ago

RE: Shadow Nirvana

My first comment was ill-informed on the topic and the “women who clamor for assholes” line was off-topic,

Off-topic? You mean douchey.

I read my posts in order again and yes, it does seem assholish,

What you mean, ‘seem’?

Last paragraph was a joke. Haha.

So are you. Haha.

LBT
LBT
10 years ago

I think this post requires Angel Haze smashing it out of the park with a song about taking abuse and rape and converting it into explosive growth and strength. (Swearing, explicit discussion of abuse.)

cloudiah
10 years ago

Sigh.

I found this video and find it much more compelling than anything shadow nirvana is saying:

weirwoodtreehugger
10 years ago

Policy of madness,

What a cute calico beast? I have one of those too! She gazes contemptuously at bullshit as well.comment image:large

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
10 years ago

Can we swap this Shadow for the one who isn’t an asshole? I like the other Shadow, this one is a disappointment.

cloudiah
10 years ago

That Angel Haze video is pretty awesome.

Robot Hugs is also awesome.

Policy of Madness
Policy of Madness
10 years ago

@wwth

Thank you! Yours is beautiful. Mine is a tiny runt, which isn’t apparent in the pic. Her imperious How Dare You Mortal looks generally prompt babytalk from me about how she is so cute, omg you’re so cute, look how cute you are!

I am that xkcd comic.

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
10 years ago

As someone who’s been known to say “puppy!” or “are you a kitty? yes you are!” in public, I can relate.

blahlistic (@blahlistic)

Shadow, dude, you’re acting twerpy.
Try to behave with compassion.

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
10 years ago

It’s because I want the puppy to maul me, obviously. I’m such a thrill seeker.

LBT
LBT
10 years ago

RE: cloudiah

Robot Hugs is so awesome. Now that TJ and Amal is done, I should start following it…

thebewilderness
10 years ago

I don’t have hurt feelings over your behavior. You are the owner of your inappropriate opinions. Not us. We are somewhat offended that you though you could bring this misogynist crap here and it would float. Nope.
I know a number of people who write letters to incarcerated men. There are organizations that arrange the necessary permissions. You may even have heard of them without realizing it. Amnesty International? Ring any bells?

blahlistic (@blahlistic)

Hey…tangentially related to what we were whopping Shadow over the head with…

http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/take-all-prisoners/201001/vulnerability-and-other-prey-psychopaths

In a study by Wheeler, Book and Costello of Brock University, individuals who self reported more traits associated with psychopathy were more apt to correctly identify individuals with a history of victimization. In the study, male student participants examined video tapes of twelve individuals walking from behind and rated the ease at which each could be mugged.

Overall results confirmed a strong positive correlation between psychopathy scores and accuracy of victim identification. This means that individuals that score higher for psychopathy are better at selecting victims. Statistically significant results for psychopathy traits including interpersonal manipulation, callous affect and antisocial behavior were found.

So, why do the Henries of this world end up with all these women?
Admittedly, inferring it from the above is a slight stretch, but I’m nevertheless pretty certain it’s because Henries can identify targets well.

WHY would you want to be a Henry, though?

+++out of coffee error+++
Brain BSOD

LBT
LBT
10 years ago

RE: thebewilderness

I know a number of people who write letters to incarcerated men.

Hell, Sneak just wrote one today! Zie has a penpal incarcerated in Texas. It was his birthday yesterday, so zie drew him a cake and asked me to write a tiny bite-size birthday story for him. In his letter, he wrote about his religious beliefs, his upbringing on a farm, and what books he likes to read.

THE HORROR.

LBT
LBT
10 years ago

RE: blahlistic

WHY would you want to be a Henry, though?

Because she wouldn’t have a Willy or a Sam! *waits for the inevitable Mammoth who recognizes stupid reference*

zoon echon logon
zoon echon logon
10 years ago

Also, you know that bit on the hip on men that’s really pronounced if they’re in great shape?

You mean the Adonis Belt?

According to Wikipedia, this is also called “Poseidon’s Fanny-pack.”

vraydar
10 years ago

I’ve never understood the “alpha male” obsession these MRA bros have. What woman would actually want their asshole version of an alpha. My current boyfriend is a tall handsome blonde Marine. He’s also the sweetest feminist in the world. I don’t care how gorgeous the gent is, if he isn’t for equality, he’s invisible to me. I’ve dated a hipster musician, a football player while in college, an architect, and now “my Marine”. The ONLY thing they had in common was they viewed me and other women as equals. If these guys quit reading MRA blogs & worked on become genuinely good human beings, they wouldn’t be so lonely/angry. To the MRA dudes reading this, if you’ve ever said/thought “but I’m a nice guy”…you actually are not a nice guy.

PS On a side note, after the whole gamergate fiasco, my opinion on nerds (#notallnerds!) has gone down quite a bit.

Kim
Kim
10 years ago

In the study, male student participants examined video tapes of twelve individuals walking from behind and rated the ease at which each could be mugged.

Overall results confirmed a strong positive correlation between psychopathy scores and accuracy of victim identification.

How did the researchers determine who would be easiest to mug? Are people with a history of victimisation easier actually easier to mug? I have no history of victimisation, and I’ve never been mugged, but I am fairly certain that mugging me would be pretty damn easy. Or were they saying that that “people who are attractive to muggers” correlates with “has a history of victimisation” and not actual “ease of mugging”. Or maybe they count “low likelyhood of going to the police or being believed” as part of “ease of mugging”.

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