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Attention #GamerGaters: Gaming is not YOUR hobby

My little game collection
My little game collection. Yes, I’m a terrible photographer.

Ever since the bizarre social backlash now known as #GamerGate first erupted in August, we’ve heard a lot of alarmist, entitled nonsense from self-described gamers who are pig-biting mad that so-called Social Justice Warriors and, you know, girls, are invading what is inevitably described as “our hobby.”

Thing is, guys, it’s not your hobby. At least it’s not only yours.

I don’t call myself a “gamer” – largely because so many of those who do embrace the label are such immature assholes – but, guess what, I play games too.

Indeed, as you can see from the picture above, I own more than 100 console games, some of which I’ve devoted hundreds of hours to. Over the years I’ve owned five different consoles – seven, if you count replacement consoles bought because I wore out the originals.

I first encountered video games in high school, playing Space Invaders in the basement of the University of Illinois student union. I wasn’t very good, and gravitated more to air hockey and pinball and other purely analog games instead. Still, by the end of the 80s I’d been bitten by the electronic game bug – starting with the bootleg version of Tetris I installed on my Mac in grad school to distract me from the tedium of actually working on my dissertation.

In other words, I’ve been playing games, off and on, for longer than many #GamerGaters have been alive.

But I’m sure many of these people wouldn’t consider me a “real” gamer at all. I’m not what you’d call hardcore. I’m basically a console gamer – I don’t even have Steam installed on my laptop. And I’m always little behind the time. I haven’t shelled out for an Xbox One or a Playstation 4. I didn’t beat Destiny ten hours after it was first released; hell, I probably won’t even pick it up for at least another six months or so when the price drops a bit. And I’m not a full-time gamer either. While I regularly get obsessed with certain games and play them to death, I also take breaks from gaming for months on end.

I also play a lot of the “casual” games that hardcore “gamer” types dismiss as not “real” games – addictive little timewasters like Bejeweled and Peggle and Candy Crush – as well as decidely un-hardcore games like Super Monkey Ball (which I played mostly for its billiards minigame) and Sega Bass Fishing. (That odd device in the picture of my game collection? A Dreamcast fishing controller.)

And while I play a lot of shooters – as you’ll see if you look closely at the picture of my collection – I often play on the easy setting, and I never play multiplayer at all. My favorite games tend to be those that give me the option to goof off for hours on end. I don’t even want to imagine how much time I’ve spent in the various Grand Theft Auto game universes, driving off cliffs on “taxi missions” gone wrong and generally causing trouble. (It would be nice if these games were less blatantly sexist, but Rockstar sure as hell knows how to design compellingly immersive open worlds.)

So, yeah, I’m pretty far from hardcore. But, you know what, angry gamebros? This is my hobby as much as it is yours. I may not fit your gamer stereotype, but I play games too, and the money I spend on gaming is as green as yours.

And there are a lot of us out here – game players who look a lot different from the angry gamers now ranting about evil Social Justice Warriors trying to destroy their supposedly male preserve. Hell, the comments section of this blog if full of them, many of them aficionados of RPGs and obscure interesting indie titles I’ve never heard of.

As Misha wrote in the comments to a recent post here, addressing one of the many gamebros out there incensed that non-dudes are invading a gaming world he sees as rightfully his,

Newsflash: It is not YOUR hobby, OR the hobby of your hapless diversity-hating gamebros. The individuals who want to see games evolve beyond depictions of harmful cultural stereotypes and tired sexist tropes also, wait for it, Play. Games. I play games. I am so excited by the recent footage released for FFXV that I could puke. You do not own them, and you do not speak for me.

Me neither.

Another commenter in the same thread noted that women have been playing video games from the beginning:

What I find so ridiculous is the fact that these guys act as though women playing/creating games is a new thing. I’m 3-freaking-6 years old. I’ve been gaming since the Atari 2600. I OWNED a copy of the ET game – yeah, that same one that most of those putzes only got to read about being discovered in a landfill in whereverthehell.

I’ve been a part of gaming allllll this time. Just because they didn’t want to recognize that or acknowledge my existence or the fact that I was right there, the entire time, playing in the WoW beta, playing in the Guild Wars beta, playing in the City of Heroes beta — that’s not my damn problem. They were the ones living in their own happy little penis-centric, he-man girl-gamer-haters club while I was over here, doing my own thing and having fun.

Their obliviousness is nobody’s fault but their own.

Buttercup Q. Skullpants added:

I’ve been gaming since the days of Pong, ELIZA, Merlin, Space Invaders, and Pac Man. Back then it was something both boys and girls did after school. It wasn’t seen as nerdy – in fact, the arcades were where the delinquent kids hung out.

It seems like today’s crop of misogynist gamers have their core identity way too wrapped up in being the coveted marketing demographic. They want to be pandered to and flattered with hypermasculine characters and alpha storylines.

It’s kind of hilarious that they’re treating this whole thing like it’s a RL video game, complete with black ops, sockpuppeting “missions”, evil shadowy enemies, rallying cries of threats to individual liberty, and an anything-goes mentality of inflicting maximum damage on opponents. Except the consequences of stalking and harassment are real, and permanent. In their imaginations they’re a group of beleaguered rebels taking a brave stand for freedom, but they’re actually the bad guys. They’re fighting against social justice and ruining a lot of people’s lives in the process.

It’s just a hobby, fercrissakes. I can’t imagine, say, model railroad enthusiasts getting all bent out of shape about more people taking up their hobby, and embarking on a hate campaign to define it as for old people ONLY. These guys really need to grow up and get some perspective.

Amen.

Elsewhere in the thread, M. the Social Justice Ranger described her experience,

I haven’t been gaming for quite as long as some of the other women here, but I first picked up a keyboard in 1989 and a controller in 1990, so it’s certainly been a while. Sure, I prefer single-player to multiplayer, Nintendo to PlayStation or Xbox and platformers, RPGs, pet sims and puzzle games to shooters, but I do consider my hobby to be a large part of my identity, so other gamers are usually (not always, but usually) willing to count me as one of their own…

… Until they discover that not only have I committed the cardinal sin of being born with a vagina, but I’m only interested in others who’ve committed the same sin. Then all of that flies out the window for rape threat after rape threat after rape threat.

Sigh.

I don’t want to destroy their hobby, I just want to enjoy our shared hobby…

#GamerGaters, is this really that hard to understand?

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Policy of Madness
Policy of Madness
10 years ago

as far as games being blatantly sexist, I am a firm believer for the most part that art imitates life so once it change in the real world it will change in the video world.

Art does imitate life, but life also imitates art. Art and life are in a circular response cycle. It’s not a simple cause-effect. If art changes, life will also change.

Jo Cool
Jo Cool
10 years ago

I have been playing video games since the super Nintendo came out, when I was around 10. My family also had the original NES before that and I remember trying to play duck hunt, but I wasn’t good at it and that laughing dog gets really old after awhile. I played the SNES pretty casually but I really liked Zelda 3 and the Donkey King country series. Around the time I started Middle School I discovered RPGs and they were my main form of entertainment throughout my teenage years. I am currently obsessed with Dragon Age and I can’t wait for Inquisition.

This whole “girls are invading nerd culture” thing is really confusing to me, and not just because I am a woman who has played games for most of my life. Not too long ago a guy I know said that it’s understandable, although he allowed it is immature, for nerdy guys to resent women “invading their spaces” because girls wouldn’t have anything to do with them in high school, but now think nerdy stuff is cool because of “The Big Bang Theory.” (Yes, he actually said it was because of that show). Why should not getting dates in high school mean you get to decide who’s allowed to have what hobbies? What does it even have to do with anything?

PS: David has Um Jammer Lammy! Sweet!

gilshalos
10 years ago

Does anyone else find the end of Morrowind bleh ? I mean, overall gameplay great as always for TES, but you can kill the big enemy in one moved if you know the secret. Which is boring.

ryeash
ryeash
10 years ago

The well..!! I’d forgotten all about that. I could actually beat the well, though. One step inside the Shadow Temple, and I was doing the same thing as Broken Butterfly, except it was “WHERE ARE MY HARVEST MOON GAMES”

Broken Butterfly
Broken Butterfly
10 years ago

@ryeash
I DON’T CARE WHAT GAME IT IS JUST GIVE ME HAPPY FUN PASTEL SHADED TIME INSTEAD OF THE CREEPY TEMPLE PLEASE OH PLEASE

(*scaredy cat fistbump*)

gilshalos
10 years ago

@LBT have you tried Sanitarium ? I love that game and the plot is similar.

LBT
LBT
10 years ago

RE: gilshalos

I have heard of Sanitarium! Alas, I have no real way to run it; our computer for some reason doesn’t have the power required, even though it came out years after Sanitarium was gone.

(Our computer is basically incapable of playing any game after the DOS era. I have grown to accept this, even though I really really do need to replace this thing, it’s just choosing a new machine is so intimidating.)

ryeash
ryeash
10 years ago

@Broken Butterfly

(*just don’t explode it cause loud noises O.O*)

Lol. I’m glad I’m not the only one who was traumatized by that place. The part with the ship still occasionally gives me nightmares.

As a side note, did anyone else play any of the Harvest Moon series? I read about it in Game Informer waaay back when and bought the Game Boy Color version, and I’ve been mildly obsessed with the series since.

kirbywarp
kirbywarp
10 years ago

@gilshalos:

I found it profoundly disappointing that you couldn’t choose to join up with the big bad when he asked you to. I actually kinda got confused when he just went into attack mode. Otherwise, I thought it was good. I don’t think the combat mechanics could have created a better battle, honestly, so the secret was kind of required to change things up.

Broken Butterfly
Broken Butterfly
10 years ago

I’ve played a ton of Harvest Moon games, though only those with a female MC. Call it a bad habit, but after so many years of dating games as a guy PC I’ve ended up not wanting to play any of them unless I can be a girl picking up guys instead. (Or a guy picking up guys; that works too)

It’s part of why I don’t like a lot of female characters; I’m so tired of TEE HEE FORCED LOVE INTEREST when I have absolutely no investment in the woman or she annoys me both because I’ve seen it so often, and because… well, I’m not interested in girls. So unless you’re a really cool female character (and let’s be honest, 99% of Love Interest Girls are either the same or not at all interesting), I tend to either not play or sabotage the relationship. (See: Why I always have Lloyd being mean to Colette in ToS. And Colette is one of the BETTER examples, too)

gilshalos
10 years ago

@LBT You’ve heard of Sanitarium! I’ve never met anyone else who had heard of it! If I could, I’d let you play it. That is just…well yeah, tons of bonbons, scented candles and roses

gilshalos
10 years ago

Also, I want to sleep. I’ve tried 5 time in the past 24 hours but..no sleep 🙁

MammothHunter666 :DD
MammothHunter666 :DD
10 years ago

We hunted the mammoth. Now we hunt people who hurt our feelings as we sit around in a puddle of tears, jerking ourselves off about how misogynist they are.

ryeash
ryeash
10 years ago

For me, the marriage/dating stuff was always kind of background. It was a nice touch to be able to have a family, but there was also getting villagers to like you, upgrading buildings, all the little farm chores, crop choices and later options to upgrade crops, livestock and pets, etc. They were more than just a farming or dating sim to me. You also had puzzles in the mines, mini-games like the races (and betting on the races, which you could totally rig in the 64 game), and usually some kind of main questline involving restoring the farm/village/Harvest Goddess/what have you. I just picked up one of the DS games, Grand Bazaar, where you run a stall in the town’s weekly bazaar instead of using the bin system. It’s not the best, but until I get a Wii it’s satisfying my Harvest Moon cravings.

Broken Butterfly
Broken Butterfly
10 years ago

It definitely has a lot more than marriage, but to me, marriage was one of the major parts of the game (which is why I didn’t like the ones that removed it). I always loved the farming and raising stuff, definitely. <33 But I also loved wooing the bachelors and seeing their events.

ted the fed
ted the fed
10 years ago

Lammy’s one of the most instantly relatable characters I’ve ever encountered in a game. When she gives her rambling, nervous answering machine message about how she’s worried about her upcoming show (which she hears because she ran back into her apartment because she left every single appliance on), I got it. I been there. My guitar is in my mind.

Michael Lindsay
Michael Lindsay
10 years ago

Hobbies are essentially verbs right? Gaming, jogging, stamp collecting etc.

Nouns are not the same, nouns like say “gamergate truther” can most certainly be owned. The idea of “owning” an activity is fucking insane!

ryeash
ryeash
10 years ago

It was definitely a fun part of the game. I always felt a little bad stealing my rivals’ person, though. I didn’t mind which gender I was supposed to be going after, but that’s a bit more conceivable for me heh. I really want to play Animal Parade. There’s supposed to be a big selection of pets, and your kids can actually grow up and help you on the farm. That was one gripe I always had: the kids were basically just decoration with a heart level.

ryeash
ryeash
10 years ago

@MammothHunter66BlahBlahSomethingRidiculous

I don’t think any of that is correct. Are you lost?

blahlistic (@blahlistic)

What a weatherwax probably did for a living?
Probably make and sell cloth items treated like this:
http://www.instructables.com/id/Tincloth/

blahlistic (@blahlistic)

@ ryeash sucky troll is sucky.

ryeash
ryeash
10 years ago

I’ll say. Crummy drive-by trolling. I’m kind of surprised this thread has remained virtually troll-free otherwise.

taitaisanchez
10 years ago

No comments about David’s copy of Samba De Amigo?

LBT
LBT
10 years ago

RE: gilshalos

You’ve heard of Sanitarium! I’ve never met anyone else who had heard of it! If I could, I’d let you play it. That is just…well yeah, tons of bonbons, scented candles and roses

Yes! A friend told me about it, and I was really disappointed to find there was no way we could play it. It looks square in the realm of genre and time period I like to play too! Oh well.

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