The man behind The Black Pill blog – formerly known as Omega Virgin Revolt – would like to go his own way, he really would. But he’s been feeling a bit stymied on that front, because no matter where on earth he might go, it doesn’t seem far enough away for him.
In a recent post, he looked at some of the solutions that have been suggested for discerning Men Going Their Own Way like himself, and found them all a bit wanting.
Becoming an expat?
I have been sympathetic to the idea of expating, but I haven’t really seen its value. Most men who do it think they can find a different type of woman outside of the US or outside of Western countries. While that may appear to be the case for now, women are the same everywhere … Wherever you go, there you are in a misandrist nation and culture.
What about going somewhere where there aren’t any women – or men – at all? Still not good enough.
Even more radical expating ideas like seasteading, cities in Antarctica, etc. still are too limited. It’s too easy to travel to anyplace on Earth so such places can’t be used to escape women and manginas.
So Mr. Black Pill decides to look beyond the confines of this puny planet.
[W]e have to look to space to escape women and manginas.
But not even a one-way trip to Mars will get Mr. Pill far enough away from his earthly tormenters.
Even then the Moon, Mars, and anywhere else in the solar system probably still won’t be enough (although they too can be used as stepping stones for further expating/escape). We need to look to other star systems and beyond.
Mr. Pill has his eye on one star system in particular:
We need to look towards a place like the Tau Ceti star system. Places like that are where we can develop a civilization completely free from matriarchy.
Hmm. Tau Ceti is a sun-like-star only 12 light years away, and one of its planets may lie in what scientists describe as the “habitable zone” — neither too near or too far from Tau Ceti to support life. That’s the good news. The bad news? Well, the planet in the “habitable zone” has five times the mass of earth. (Not a good planet for basketball. And you can forget about getting help from friends when you move.) Oh, and it’s being pretty much constantly battered by meteorites from the giant cloud of space debris that orbits Tau Ceti.
But no worries! Mr. Pill is confident that we can work out these little kinks.
While the planets around Tau Ceti may not be ideal for us, this isn’t a problem. Terraforming will take care of some of it. The rest can be handled by genetic engineering and/or becoming cyborgs. This is a good thing because we need to remove genetics that predispose us to be manginas anyway so we might as well make more changes while we’re at it.
Could we have tails too? I’ve always wanted a tail.
You may think this is some far off future that you will never see in your lifetime. While it will be a long time before there’s an exodus to another start system like Tau Ceti, other parts of this vision are already in progress. For example, the development of cyborgs in primitive form is proliferating in areas such as finance.
It’s true. Soon all bankers will look like this:
Mr. Pill ends on a hopeful note:
While no one is going to be getting on a spaceship to another star system tomorrow, this is a vision we can realize. …
Just as our ancestors had to choose to leave the Great Rift Valley a long time ago to find a better life, we must do the same on a larger level. It’s going to take a long time and a lot of work, but we must do it. It’s the only way to build a better human civilization.
There’s really only one way this plan could fail, and that’s if Mr. Pill’s counterparts arrive at the Tau Ceti system a couple of hundred years from now only to discover its habitable planet already inhabited.
By these gals.
Or maybe these, with a scantily clad mangina in tow:
The idea of an MGTOW Paradise Island somewhere (like Galt’s Gulch, but even more unrealistic) has a certain appeal. The idea that women and sensible men would inevitably invade and ruin it is certainly risible.
These guys seem to see themselves as Heinlein heroes as written by Ayn Rand, or vice versa. Do they realize that they’re the only ones who do? No, of course not; introspection is for betas.
Regarding Antarctica, there is a SF story from a few decades ago, ‘Apartness’. It’s a postapocalytic tale set some years after the Northern Hemisphere gets fried in a nuclear exchange. One consequence is a bloody uprising in South Africa. The white elite flee in a convoy of ships and disappear. They are found to have landed in Antarctica and formed a new society of sorts, marked by rampant scurvy and malnutrition. The new South African government decides to leave them be – after all, wasn’t ‘apartness’ what they always wanted? Let them rot in it.
Wow. One of the things that just jumped out at me was when he wrote about the distant past – You know I could be wrong but I suspect that when our ancestors left the great rift valley there were at least a few women in that group so I’m not sure how that links to his vision of a human future without women. First time commenting – have been lurking for a bit.
@Cassie’s Major Domo
Oh, well, please forgive my personal ignorance of that particular piece of the puzzle.
@Robert
How do you disabuse them of those delusions of grandeur? I mean, there’s real world life experiences I’ve heard examples of curing Objectivetarians. Is there some way we could get them all into a coastal city that gets hit by a hurricane?
What gets me is the insistence that EVERY SOCIETY ON EARTH, NO REALLY YOU GUYS EVERY SINGLE ONE, IS DOMINATED BY FEMINISTS AND MANGINAS. India? Fem-topia. Saudi Arabia? Fem-topia! The FLDS? You better believe they’re a fem-topia!
What in the world (or a distant world) do these losers imagine a non-fem-topia society would be like?
@Ikanreed
No problem. I’m also a bit new on the commenting to usually point out abelism, especially if the person was a first time commenter. But I had some unpleasant run-ins with Tyler when he first started blathering yesterday (it starts here) that GamerGate wasn’t antifeminist, cited Christina Hoff Sommers as a feminist authority, and then starting to complain about tone, etc. He claims he’s not a troll, but he hasn’t shown any attempt to really learn about the site and the community. So when he reappears and pulls out “bonkers,” it’s just a huge warning sign to me.
I’m really busy today, but I just saw this hilarious example of how AVfM’s terrible graphics design has now spread to India:
http://www.reddit.com/r/againstmensrights/comments/2go08r/for_those_who_were_wondering_about_the_mra_in/
(More graphics linked in the comments.)
I haven’t caught up with the comments here yet but holy crap, Cloudiah, that site is a gold mine of terrible graphcis with terrible messages! I’m going to do a quick post on it.
He hasn’t really thought this whole genetic manipulation thing through.
After all, one of the common tropes of sf is that when biotech gets up high enough, transsexual shifting will become routine and even recreational – wanna be a man, woman or neuter for a month?
Try to imagine what 21st century ninnies screaming about “manginas” will look like to people living in those cultures…
@Cloudiah
That graphic which basically tell a woman that the way to a man’s heart to literally act like his dog… there’s soooo much packed into that. The way I read it, the creator is trying to say, in the sweetest way he can, “Be my bitch.”
Also, “Learn the art of love from dogs”? Eeeeewww!
David, you’re a mangina because you respect women and mock people who think they should be kept as sex-slaves. You can’t go! No tail for you!
I thought David was only a mangina so he could get tail? Now I’m confused…
@Zoinier—So true…
Leftwingfox:
ikanreed: I started writing a short story a while back where mankind discovers a cheap hyperdrive, and to solve overpopulation, they give any group with an ideological charter and 20,000 signatories a free trip off-world, then watch the results.
The most complete disaster were the Sovereign Citizen/radical libertarian movement of North America. Rugged individualism, no social safety net, and everyone armed. When faced with the consequences of “personal responsibility” for their own failures, the colony quickly descended into paranoia, banditry and complete horror.
Charlie Stross had that in his ‘Singularity Sky” universe, where the Eschaton seeded colonies of people throughout the universe. One of those colonies was a group of would-be space settler libertarian types which were settled in a space station rather than a terraformed world.
It turns out that on a space station dependent on myriad interconnected systems, there’s not a lot of room for libertarianism. After they shoved the last of them through the airlocks and settled down to as free a socialism as they could manage, they got on quite nicely…
There are some women there, already, in research stations, but they don’t typically leave their stations to go wandering around in the deadly ice desert.
You’d be surprised. I once had an interesting conversation about how you pee while wearing a bunny suit in a blizzard…
“I thought David was only a mangina so he could get tail? Now I’m confused…”
That’s right, he’s a mangina as a sex strategy to get tail from women who will never give him tail because they’re too busy offering their tail to the guys who don’t want anything to do with their tail and instead want to blast off into space and create genetic modifications to give themselves tails…
Wait, now I’m confused too. I might have to take my brain out to make this equation work.
Okay, I’d love to send these guys to beyond the stars but since that’s not possible…may I suggest a mgtow fundraiser for a piece of land somewhere remote?
As for women and manginas following you, I heard fences help with that. And walls. Or you could pick one of those islands with deadly volcano gas. Seems quiet enough, couple of gasmasks and you’re good to go.
Bet you wouldn’t see a single woman or mangina ever again.
Just please, go !
Don’t worry, I got it.
Cloudiah
And they’re wondering why no good person takes them seriously and calling them a hate movement. Plus they couldn’t draw to save their miserable lives.
I decided to look into the manosphere’s connection to seasteading (which I’ve never heard them mention before, although I do know the concept) and didn’t uncover much. A forum topic on A Voice for Megalon with only three comments, and a video titled “MGTOW and Nationhood: A Proposal” which sounds fascinating(ly horrible) but is alas either private or has been removed.
Anyone else know about further MGTOW plans to Go Captain Nemo/Carl Stromberg? (Props to anyone who recognizes the second name.)
Wasn’t Captain Nemo clearly a dirty Fabian at heart?
Since Jules Verne eventually became a French Nationalist and anti-Dreyfusard, the MRA/MGTOW crowd will probably meet him halfway on Nemo.
Don’t worry, I got it.
Well, off the top of my head, I thought Zolnier was either referencing Nancy Kress or Fred Pohl. I still don’t know what s/he had in mind, but I’m amused to see that it’s the setting for Barbarella too…
If I didn’t know better, I would, straightup, think this was an Onion article.
No, really! It has to be an Onion article.
Of course any planet this fool inhabited that he feels would be matriarchy free, no wait a minute…he is on a planet that’s matriarchy free.See the trouble is that he is a complete loser and e’s decided to blame women for having standards.
Of course, this could be a subtle send-up of MRAs complete with an allusion to “The Lord of the Swastika” – http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Iron_Dream#Novel_within_the_novel.E2.80.94Lord_of_the_Swastika
Let’s be blunt here. as much as they say they hate women, they also hate other men too. There’s no way any of them would go live in an all male society bc they know that sooner or later it would completely devolve into an alpha male pecking order version of Hell.All the problems you have with men now, would just be displaced onto all the men in that society who were perceived as being the weakest.
Just like their dreams of the apocalypse, where they feel they’ll be able to do hoard and abuse women with impunity. They don’t seem to realize that quite a large number of other male survivors will probably have the exact same idea. They’d really just end up spending all their time attempting to survive being robbed and killed by the other men. (Probably something very like McCarthy’s The Road.) There’s not going to be anything even remotely romantic about any of it.
Another forum I visit was discussing this and someone cogently noted that this plan sounds remarkably like the finale of Norman Spinrad’s The Iron Dream.