Congratulations, A Voice for Men. You are having an impact upon the world.
Or at least upon one organization in India, a truly reprehensible group called Masculinist India, which has adopted the histrionic rhetorical style, and even some of the specific arguments, advanced by AVFM and other North American Men’s Rights groups for a series of graphically challenged “masculinist” memes posted on Facebook and on the group’s web page. Masculinist India has even adopted AVFM’s preferred nomenclature, describing its members as “Men’s Human Rights Activists.” They are of course the complete opposite of “human rights” activists, campaigning instead against basic rights for women.
The influence of AVFM and other Western Men’s Rightsers can been seen again and again in Masculinist India’s posts and memes, which have all the sophistication and subtlety of Chick Tracts.
The “feminists made me a misogynist” logic of the meme above, for example, echoes the argument made in “Hate Bounces,” an influential MRA screed by MRA/MGTOW elder “Zed,” and by countless other MRAs including former AVFM Number Two John Hembling.
Other memes borrow not only the arguments of Western MRAs but recycle the same tired stock photos, like the angry woman in this meme, a favorite amongst Western MRAs.
Masculinist India’s graphics-makers are as obsessed with this “argument” as is AVFM’s Paul Elam.
And they share AVFM’s fondness for threatening rhetoric — in this case complete with violent imagery.
And while AVFM’s Elam argues that men serving on juries should vote to acquit all men charged with rape, even if they’re obviously guilty, in order to protest an allegedly “misandrist” court system, the Masculinist India crew celebrates a court decision allowing married men to rape their wives with impunity. The following meme appears on their website under the taunting headline “Know Your Role, Girls.” [TRIGGER WARNING for rape apologism, offensive imagery.]
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I don’t even want to know why they chose bloody fingers for this graphic.
This meme, meanwhile, suggests that it’s an injustice that men are not allowed to forbid their wives from wearing blue jeans.
Human rights: You’re doing it wrong.
Unfortunately, Masculinist India is not some obscure little group with no influence in the world. Its Facebook page has nearly twenty thousand “likes” — several thousand more, that is, than that of AVFM itself.
Apparently in India as well as the United States there is a market for this brand of hatred.
NOTE: Thanks to Cloudiah for bringing these memes to my attention.
A nice person comforting one of the furrinati at the vet’s office:
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And the piece de resistance (dog becomes protector/guardian of new baby human):
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“STOP RESERVATION FOR WOMEN!”
Women must wait until table is available?
Yay! Look at all this brain bleach!
Looks like the same shit behind a language barrier. Bloody feathers, bloody fingers. I only see one poster on the blog, which is hopeful.
Cute puppy with leaf bigger than he is:
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You have to wonder, in a country where less than 20% of the country speaks English, and the creator of these memes clearly isn’t fluent, why not use their first language, and have others translate it for one of the many other languages in India. (I think it’s something to do with class-English is an example of good education and of being upper class, or something like that).
Meanwhile, I remember I saw a Bollywood film a few years ago which was quite revolutionary, about a single mother falling in love with a new man. But, fearing audience hatred of the female lead the producers went a bit anvillicious. Not only did her husband leave her, not only did he leave her to have an affair with another woman, not only did he leave her and have an affair with another woman, quitting his job, he also he left her to have an affair with another woman and quitting his job to go on a life of crime. The producers had to make the ex-husband that evil in order to feel comfortable that the audience would sympathise with her, and not side with her husband. They even had the male lead say in his message of love “I forgive you for your marriage. I don’t know why your husband left you, but I know it was your fault-” just so she could interrupt him and give a length monologue about her experience.
And yet according to these guys, India is ruled by feminists.
Lots of cute.
JM
…Incredible… -_-‘
A little off topic: but I just wanted to say thanks for all the cute. I’m currently dealing with a whopping amount of pain (like if-this-doesn’t-stop-soon-I’m-going-to-the-ER pain), and the cute animals are really helping me take my mind off it.
OMG, now I have to adopt a pug.
I can’t think of anything better for the situation than for the image of that hateful subset of Western MRAs than to become associated with the woman-hating behaviour so prevalent in India. Think about it.
Women must forever curse the day that the Manu Smirti was written. What’s with these guys in India? The majority follows a religion that states the Feminine Principle is the Supreme Power (‘Shakti’) of the universe, worships awesomeness like Durga & Kaali & who has women among the great rishis behind The Vedas.
Man! I wish Kaali-Mata was a literal being rather than an archetype so she could jump out from behind a bush or something in India a go totally Cuisinart on these turkeys!
To be pro-woman is to be a true Hindu.
@apeculiarpersonage, 🙁 I hope you’re okay. Here’s a panda (but maybe the ER would be better):
Do we dare to hope that this mess, like the MRA movement here in the U.S., is a sign that a lot of dudes feel their own privilege eroding as women make advances?
apeculiarpersonage
Sorry, hope you’re going to be ok.
spukikitty
Yeah I don’t get it either. I really don’t like calling these masculinists any kind of animal. Animals are awesome not them.
Thanks everyone for cute pics!
Aw, look at all these cute animals! I am looking at them, sipping a mug of chamomile tea, and this is exactly what the doctor ordered. Thanks guys.
Check for bonus kitty when the camera pans up.
Apparently in India as well as the United States there is a market for this brand of hatred.
India has been identified as the worst G20 country in the world to be a woman – worse than Saudi Arabia ferchrissakes. It rates as fifth most dangerous country in the world, if you’re a woman.
The very idea of women having any rights at all is getting these scumbags frothing.
Source
I’m afraid the graphics aren’t making me laugh, because of the context. India is a truly dreadful place to be a woman, policiticians pontificate on how a woman murdered by gang rape should have been nicer to her murderers, and these filth are complaining that women dare think of themselves as human beings.
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LBT, great to see you again!
Yeah, that post definitely required ALL THE BRAIN BLEACH.
*shudder*
JM,
That was what I could not get over. I have studied some foreign language and can even hold a conversation but I would never try to create something like this. Why not use the language they are fluent in? I can not image this would appeal to anyone since either the reader can not speak English and it is useless or they can and they know it is wrong. Maybe I expect too much from MRAs.
RE: Kittehs
LBT, great to see you again!
I LIIIIIIIIIVE! (Seriously though, it’s been a very eventful week. I didn’t want to clutter the threads, but you can check the personal thread for details. Suffice to say, I am getting my chillax on for the first time in weeks and LOVING it.)
Ow, those posters. They fill my head with fuck. Especially the ones about money. Don’t these guys realize that dowry murder is an ongoing problem in India? And that dowry is illegal for that reason, but still demanded BY MEN? Guess not.
And why is that pig pointing at the woman’s crotch and saying “Mangina”? That’s not what the pseudo-word means, in western MRAsshat terms. Even in broken English, that makes no sense.
I can hardly wait for the AVFM trolls to come on here with a weird-ass combo of racism and rah-rah and quasi-yogic mental contortions to try to explain how those brown dudes are so icky but also right and yet not the brainchild (!) of AVFM. So I guess a pre-emptive “SHUT UP, WOODY” is in order.
BTW, there is a Feminist India on Facebook. They seem to be well ahead of these guys in terms of “likes”, but if you haven’t already, please consider adding your thumbs-up.
And now, a little Maru to unfuck all the heads that need it…
Epic fail of not putting an s on language. I saw it as soon as I clicked post.
Not really brain bleach, but kind of funny. One of the two dudes begging for money to make the Sarkeesian Effect video put out an hour-long video complaining about how hard it is to raise money and make a video. It’s kind of amazing.