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That finance douchebag on Tinder is a perfect example of pickup artistry gone wrong

Mystery has taught you well, young douchebag
Mystery has taught you well, young douchebag

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By now you’ve probably seen the latest set of creepy PMs that’s making the rounds of the internet — you know, that series of sour-grapey insults some random finance asshole sent to a woman on Tinder who had gently rejected his crude sexual come-on. If you haven’t, I’ve pasted them in below.

Well, it turns out that this would-be Romeo is not only an asshole, but a wholly unoriginal asshole at that. Thinking that more than a few of his angry negs sounded vaguely familiar I did a bit of Googling and discovered that a couple of his more, er, polished insults came straight out of the pickup artist playbook. Quite literally.

That bit where he tells the woman he messaged that she’s “not hot enough to be acting like this?” An old PUA neg he literally may have discovered by cruising the message boards at VenusianArts.com, the website of everyone’s favorite PUA peacock Mystery, where one commenter described it as his favorite line to use with “highly egotistical women” he met in the club:

I tend to be particularly harsh with megabitches, because I don’t really care if they are responsive to my negs and get interested or I blow them the fuck out.My favorite line to blow a bitch out is “you’re not hot enough to be acting like this.”

I’ve used it a few times, and it’s great. You get to blow out Alpha style, and if you don’t blow em out, sometimes girls even go into check and cool it on the attitude.

Used this line on a 9 once, TRYING to blow her out.

We ended up banging twice that night.

 
Yeah, that totally happened. Did her boobs feel like bags of sand?
 
In any case, that line didn’t work quite as well on Tinder gal.
 
Another of the Finance Asshole”s insults — his odd contention that the Tinder gal’s “eyes are way too far apart” — may have been borrowed from a bit of angry dude copypasta that seems to be quite popular amongst the regulars on Bodybuilding.com, a site especially popular amongst misogynistic douchebags (and one of the online hangouts of Elliot Rodger).
 
Oh, and it goes without saying that Finance Asshole’s crude opener — the bit about putting his meat in her mouth — isn’t original either; it’s a joke so old you can even get it on a t-shirt.
 
Some men are born assholes; some achieve assholeness; some learn how to be an asshole on the Internet.
 
Here’s the whole creepy saga:
 
 
 
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Somehow I doubt that Tinder gal feels bad she let this catch slip through her fingers.
 
 

 

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LBT (with an open writeathon!)

You know, if what those chucklefucks were saying about nude pictures devaluing a gender as a whole is true (I mistyped that as ‘hole’ at first… Freud, get out of my head!) than by sending anonymous dickpics, these guys are RUINING MEN FOR EVERYBODY.

SCIENCE!

blahlistic (@blahlistic)

Oh, yeah…LBT, you were much missed. Hoping the unpleasant regurgitation of the past is finished soon…*shakes head* Would not wish that crap on anybody.

LBT (with an open writeathon!)

RE: cassandrakitty

Men are impressive in the sheer awful names they give their genitals and the things they do with them. It’s one of the reasons I tend to prefer porn by women; at least they don’t use so many terms like “manmeat,” “Polish salami,” “mantool,” “grand mal’ing cock” and “jazillion amorous mating sperm.”

(All of these are real things. And I didn’t even mention the one with the bear.)

LBT (with an open writeathon!)

HEAVING SADDLE OF FLESH.

(In truth, twas the bad porn that drove me mad! THE BAD PORN I SAY!)

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
10 years ago

But a saddle is completely the wrong shape, unless they mean the pommel on a Western saddle, and even then…what?

LBT (with an open writeathon!)

There was a bear involved, cassandrakitty. Trust me, you don’t want to know more than that.

RE: blahlistic

Thanks. Sorry that I am behind and will probably still be sporadic.

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
10 years ago

Also, why was it heaving? Is this some sort of foreskin-shedding metaphor?

After making the mistake of reading Henry Miller I decided that maybe men just shouldn’t write porn.

Shiraz
Shiraz
10 years ago

@blahlistic

**wave** 🙂

LBT (with an open writeathon!)

RE: cassandrakitty

A bear was performing oral sex and rimming on a man. Both at the same time. That was how the writer described it.

Seriously, sometimes I wonder what the hell I am missing to find such descriptions utterly repulsive. How does this crap get published? Are people really that turned on by heaving saddles of bearmeat?

Policy of Madness
Policy of Madness
10 years ago

My fav bad euphemism is “love wand.” I imagined the dude rotating his hips to wave his love wand, and the magic progresses from there.

deniseeliza
deniseeliza
10 years ago

Weird thing: I know a lady who has got it on with Mystery. The funny bit? He used exactly zero negs. He was all “You’re the funniest girl I’ve ever met, you’re great”.

You know what makes me sad about PUAs?

If all they did was encourage guys not to be intimidated as fuck by women, and to talk to women and have a good time, then they would probably A) be more successful at being laid, B) be happier people and C) be capable of meaningful, loving relationships with women who want to be with them.

To the extent that PUA tactics “work”, I suspect this is what is really happening. If you’re a guy and you never talk to women because you find them terrifying and find rejection terrifying, actually going up and talking to women a lot will quickly teach you that rejection isn’t the worst thing that could happen to you, and that women are actually not that scary (they’re pretty much just human beings!).

But no, they can’t just do that. Because actually meeting women and having a good time with them isn’t the real goal for so many of these guys. The real goal is “winning”, hence the negging, gaslighting, abuse, and straight-up rape.

deniseeliza
deniseeliza
10 years ago

Well I guess there’s a lot of things about PUAs that make me sad but that is one of them 🙂

katz
10 years ago

Admittedly, I’m not sure there’s a right way to explicitly describe sex without sounding either silly or clinical. All the written scenes that I’ve found really sexy are more fade to black style.

What are some sexy scenes from books that you guys can think of?

Robert
Robert
10 years ago

LBT, good to see you again! Best wishes on the dealing with stuff.

Also, heaving saddles of bearmeat sounds like a recipe to me. I suggest Béarnaise to accompany.

Leisha Young
Leisha Young
10 years ago

I’m sure it’s probably lost on this guy that she probably wrote him off as an internet psycho after the first insult and got on with her life. However, in his warped little mind he has to try and convince himself that she was truly hurt and ‘put in her place’ by this idiot’s absurd ramblings. If it wasn’t so disturbing it would but gut laugh funny…

CattyGal
CattyGal
10 years ago

There is only one word to describe that interaction and the way he childishly insulted her. Criiiiiiiinge. The end.

fruitloopsie
fruitloopsie
10 years ago

I don’t care if an abusive man looks like Elvis Presley, Ewan Mcgregor or Ryan Gosling. I’ll put on my tiara, curtsy and then skip away from him just like the entitled Princess that I am.

Which reminds me of a movie
http://youtu.be/hoZuMb19RJ4

katz
10 years ago

Aww, A Little Princess! All the nostalgia!

Matthew Cline
Matthew Cline
10 years ago

HEAVING SADDLE OF FLESH.

Sounds like the title of an eldritch abomination from a Lovecraftian story.

hellkell
hellkell
10 years ago

Oh, lord, this fucking guy. You can feel the tantrum happening. I bet he honestly wonders why he can’t get laid, short of crawling up a chicken’s ass and waiting.

LBT, good to see you!

broski
10 years ago

I’ve never liked the PUA movement. It’s a big load of bull.

Hey! I got an idea for ya! How about just being a decent person?

paulcarlton
10 years ago

I never liked the PUA movement. Narcs.

Hey, I got a good idea. How about being a decent person?

kittehserf - MOD
10 years ago

LBT, great to see you here!

Yeah, my first fave hat is a woven paper fedora, I wear it often.
The fedora/douchebro association worries me. Douchebros cannot appropriate my hat.

Mr K would second this if he worried about what earthtypes do. He has several fedoras and a bright red panama. However I do enough Stop Ruining Fedoras For Everyone Else for both of us.

Aside – there are very few things that will make me want to touch your penis less than calling it your “meat”. Why do people think this is sexy?

Not only totally unsexy, but makes me think of the sort of sausage that is going to be cooked and eaten. Also makes me want to file my teeth into points.

My fav bad euphemism is “love wand.” I imagined the dude rotating his hips to wave his love wand, and the magic progresses from there.

Now I’m seeing Ken Branagh’s turn as Gilderoy Lockhart gone horribly wrong …

What are some sexy scenes from books that you guys can think of?

Dracula and the narrator in the short story The Tenth Scholar.

A travesty (what’s now called drag) ball at Henri III’s court in Vainglory. The description of Henri wasn’t meant to be sexy at all, just the opposite, but it worked for me.

There are others, but I can’t call them to mind at the moment. I presume our own writing doesn’t count. 😉

Zolnier
Zolnier
10 years ago

It’s like a Turing machine constructed out of arsehole. Like if in Bicentennial Man Andrew Martin achieved sapience by reading PUA manuals. The Bicentennial Man’s Rights if you will.

Bina
Bina
10 years ago

I bet he honestly wonders why he can’t get laid, short of crawling up a chicken’s ass and waiting.

>cackle<