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Do you still think that #GamerGate is a spontaneous movement against game industry corruption? Zoe Quinn has some screenshots to show you.

4Channers discover that Zoe has been spying on the #IRC channels where they'e been planning this "raid."
4Channers discover that Zoe has been spying on the #IRC channels where they’ve been planning and coordinating their “raid.”

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Ah, sweet schadenfreude! The gamebros at 4chan have been insisting publicly that the whole #GamerGate campaign — you know, the vicious attacks on game developer Zoe Quinn and other women in gaming — has been a spontaneous grassroots uprising against corruption in the world of game journalism, not a targeted campaign by misogynistic 4channers and their allies to ruin the lives of Quinn and everyone even vaguely connected with or even just aligned with her.

Well, it’s just become a lot harder to make that argument with a straight face. Last night, Quinn announced that she’s been lurking in the IRC where 4chaners have been diligently and often quite deviously planning this “spontaneous” uprising. And she’s started posting screenshots that seem to offer pretty incontrovertible evidence of  just how duplicitously 4channers planned every element of #GamerGate.

You can find Quinn’s tweets of these screenshots laid out neatly on this Storify page; it’s essential reading for anyone who’s been following all this.

But I thought I’d highlight some of my favorite bits.

Here, 4channers talk about trying to hack her email:

Here they spout bizarre conspiracy theory — while conspiring to hack another website.

In this screenshot — you can find the whole thing here — 4channers talk candidly about how they hope to ruin her career:

zoeruincareerMore of the same:

Here some 4channers talk about #NotYourShield, a supposedly spontaneous bit of hashtag activism in which people of color — and white dudes pretending to be people of color — attack “social justice warriors” for supposedly using them as “shields” for their attack on gaming. Notice the dudes at the end talking about showing up on Twitter “as a Latino” and “in blackface” to support the campaign.

zoenotyourrr

Given how damning a lot of these screenshots are, it’s hardly surprising that they freaked out when Quinn started posting her screenshots:

https://twitter.com/MsMinotaur/status/508177920687210496

Too late, dudes. Too late.

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pendraegon
pendraegon
10 years ago

At this point it’s become something of an amusing time waste of mine to head to any of the gaming websites I frequent and watch gamebros perform all sorts of mental gymnastics to explain why Quinn is taking the comments from the chatlogs out of context and leaping to conclusions. Seriously try the Excapist or Kotaku and just glance at the comment sections in any story relating to Quinn or these logs, it’s it’s like the worst Olympic gymnastic event ever.

Anarchonist
Anarchonist
10 years ago

@pendraegon: I bet all the discussions were satire.

Anarchonist
Anarchonist
10 years ago

Clarification, I was too quick to hit submit: I bet the gamebros say that all the discussions in the chats were satire.

Bina
Bina
10 years ago

@Bina – Do not mess with the Social Justice Bard, for your name it is silly and can be made to scan to “Greensleeves.”

Also, the Bard’s pet dragon would have thee know that thou art crunchy and would taste good with Suicide Sauce.

slivarth
10 years ago

‘Satire’ and ‘just a joke, you know’. ‘A harmless jest’ that was aimed at someone losing her job and being ostracized by the industry.
I wonder if the real problem lies not in the couple of kiddos pretending to be activist/hackers, but in many so called gamer bloggers being mute about it. Of about 15 sites I read from time to time, none responded nor commented.

Amnesia
Amnesia
10 years ago

Social Justice Mascot? Social Justice Scavenger? Social Justice Super High School Level Magic Knight (I work in a High School now, that counts)? I can’t decide!

Bina
Bina
10 years ago

Anarchonist, great tale! I love it.

Also love “grassholes”. Something tells me that a most amusing round of Whack-a-Mole is about to get played…

pendraegon
pendraegon
10 years ago

I have seen that one thrown about quite a bit, it’s almost as popular “those weren’t real 4channers” and “Quinn is just faking all of them to get attention.” Because as we all know 4chan posters have never engaged in any sort of legally or ethically questionable behavior and condemn all forms of harassment.

But most especially the “harassment” where someone reveals what petty, destructive children they are.

LBT (with an open writeathon!)

The trolls descend! To me, my social justice raiding party! Give them piss and fire! Since I can no longer be a SJ berserker, I shall have to be a nonmusical SJ bard, telling stories and shouting shit to make people feel better!

THERE WILL BE CYBORG ANIMALS!

weirwoodtreehugger
10 years ago

Interesting that a bunch of new people all dropped by at once to express their skepticism about these screenshots.

Anybody have the full chatlogs? I don’t really buy screencapped portions. Kinda like taking a page of “mein kampf” and saying it’s a book about the quiet life of an austrian-born German man.

You people really must be desperate if you’re resorting to Godwinning.

Most of the men who work in games got there through connections, not merit. This is not a secret.

When men do it, it’s OK. That’s just called networking.

Entertainment critics often have personal relationships with entertainment makers. Again, not a secret. I’m assuming they are all too young to remember when a game journalist was fired for giving Assassins Creed a bad review because Ubisoft was sponsoring the website. Surely, if this isn’t about misogyny, sexism, racism, and entitled babyism, each and every #GamerGate teenager has been boycotting Ubisoft games for years, and certainly hasn’t ever played an Assassins Creed game.

But the gamebros like Assassins Creed (I’m assuming) so it’s OK. Only the developers of girly and/or gay names have to make it with no help from friendly journalists and critics.

I have seen that one thrown about quite a bit, it’s almost as popular “those weren’t real 4channers” and “Quinn is just faking all of them to get attention.”

Well, we are all David’s sockpuppets so this makes complete sense too.

Phoenician in a time of Romans
Phoenician in a time of Romans
10 years ago

Wait – so she cheated on a guy, who – based on his behavior – DESERVED to be cuckolded, and she slept with someone who gave her no quid pro quo.

She’s a game designer. She slept with someone in the… game industry. This is obviously some dastardly scheme rather than being, you know, the social pool she hung around in.

OMG! My wife is a librarian too! Clearly I’m a huge slut who only married her to get ahead in my career, despite us working for two different organisations!

Should I get a tramp stamp?

LBT (with an open writeathon!)

Gee, rhetoric technique making a parallel between Zoe Quinn and Hitler. Very sneaky, dude, I never noticed that. That or you’re just so incompetent at English rhetoric techniques that you honestly didn’t notice, in which case you just get to be obtuse, rather than malevolent. Which shall it be?

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
10 years ago

Does the fact that I’m Scottish mean that I have to be a Social Justice Druid? Because I feel like running into the fray with a big sword is more my style.

Nequam
Nequam
10 years ago

However since gamer is not synomymous with repugnant, violent loser who wants to rape, cripple or murder women, ,,,

Not yet, anyway.

mythago
10 years ago

I wonder if they know Gjoni is now claiming to be pro-“SJW”, or whether they’re going to write that off as some kind of self preservation thing he was forced into by the dastardly feminists.

http://www.vice.com/read/this-guys-embarrassing-relationship-drama-is-killing-the-gamer-identity-828

Also, what edition are we using for SJW character classes?

Unimaginative
Unimaginative
10 years ago

Does the fact that I’m Scottish mean that I have to be a Social Justice Druid? Because I feel like running into the fray with a big sword is more my style.

I remember reading somewhere that the bagpipes were considered a weapon of war. How about a blue-painted, naked, bagpipe warrior of social justice?

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
10 years ago

If they’re not, they should be! I mean, sonic cannons are a weapon, right?

I still want a sword, though. I even know how to use it!

LBT (with an open writeathon!)

Hey, in World War Z, they used bagpipes to drive zombies off of cliffs! The bagpipes are awesome!

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
10 years ago

Hey, LBT, how are you doing today? I went to bed early last night cause super tired, was worrying about you.

emilygoddess - MOD
emilygoddess - MOD
10 years ago

Actually, “social justice warrior” is used in some online fandom circles to differentiate between fans who are honestly interested in social justice, and those who use social justice as a baseball bat against fans/fandoms they don’t like, or to gain fandom ego-strokes

This is the problem with the term “SJW”. To people actually involved with SoJust stuff, it refers to the people are ostensibly on our side but who are more interested in appearing to care than actually doing anything, or who use SoJust as an excuse to bully and harass people. To outsiders, anyone who talks about this stuff is an SJW and the extremists and bullies will be held up as proof that the entire notion of social justice is flawed. So while I can agree that SJWs (in the insider sense) are a problem, I also know that when some “dark enlightenment” asshat uses the term, he doesn’t just mean the people I think are a problem, he also means me and all of you and anyone who’s ever said “that’s kinda sexist/racist/etc”.

tl;dr you’re correct that the term is used the way you describe, but that’s not how its being used by the 4Channers, and I don’t think “but some people actually are doing SoJust wrong!” is relevant to this particular clusterfuck.

LBT (with an open writeathon!)

RE: cassandrakitty

I am doing better, thanks! Sorry to have made you worry. A good night’s sleep and I am feeling miles better, especially now that I’ve made some progress. I left more details on the personal thread, but long story short: I was on the roller coaster then, I will be on the roller coaster again pretty soon, but right now, I am getting a brief break and am deeply relieved.

Also I need to give hubby all the cuddles and adoration in the world because I don’t think he slept all night and I think he’s more freaked than I am.

emilygoddess - MOD
emilygoddess - MOD
10 years ago

Kittehs, Clerics in D&D are actually pretty badass.

CC,

Hi! That’s factually incorrect!comment image:large A minority game developer got fed up with the white-washing “journalists” were doing in their coverage of #GamerGate

Ah, so the fact that /b/t*rds are actively hijacking said tag is irrelevant because a Real Live Minority started it (assuming, of course, that said person is not just another /b/t*rd). Also, fun fact: being a Real Live Minority doesn’t mean you’re not wrong.

and so he created the subset for minorities around the world, and women, in support of the movement to get better journalistic integrity in gaming!

K, but that’s still not what gamergate is actually about.

@Blahlistic, that link was very informative *nods*

TebTeb,

Anyway, still don’t support gamergate since I don’t think posting their hashtag over and over is going to do anything. Ever.

Yeah, that’s the problem with this whole mess *eyeroll*

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
10 years ago

@ LBT

Hey, I’m just glad you’re OK. Don’t feel that you have to update me/us if you’re not up to it, just know that we worry about you when you’re not around!

This whole process sounds like it’s been/will continue to be awful, but hopefully at least knowing what’s been buried will be a good thing in the long run?

LBT (with an open writeathon!)

RE: cassandrakitty

Yeah. This is a good thing, and I’m really grateful to all the Mammoths who talked to me even when I was crazy and typing like I was drunk. Just having other people carry on normal conversations helps a lot, since my normal response is to hide in a cubbyhole and not talk to anyone until I am sure I can act like a human, and interacting helps my brain put itself back together faster. I can handle just about any sort of horrorshow as long as I’m getting somewhere with it. The progress is key for me; waiting is what really gets me climbing walls.

So yeah, as horrible as last night was, I still consider it a VAST improvement over the interminable waiting, even if it looked and felt a lot worse on its face.

msgdee
msgdee
10 years ago

Misha, I also really love Card Captor Sakura! Kero-chan is cute and sassy!

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