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You won't believe what Reddit's Red Pill ALPHA DOGS are saying about the stolen JLaw nudes. Or maybe you will.

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Well, the denizens of Reddit’s TOTALLY ALPHA Red Pill subreddit have weighed in on the stolen celebrity nude pics that have so many Redditors — and other skeezballs — so excited. And they have some, well, intriguing explanations for why feminists are troubled by the widespread dissemination of stolen nude pictures that were never supposed to be seen by the general public.

In a thread with the lovely title Why are the feminazis so buttdevastated about the leaked nude pics?, a RedPill dude with the lovely handle trpmdsrfggts explains that said feminazis are angry because the pics — some of which show the celebrity women looking like, you know, actual women — are driving down the “price of pussy.”

I’ll let him explain, because his logic is obviously more sophisticated than anything I learned in my pussy economics classes in college:

Why are the feminazis so buttdevastated about the leaked nude pics? (self.TheRedPill)  submitted 2 days ago by trpmdsrfggts  Is it because the fig leaf has fallen only to reveal... something quite forgettable and boring?  I have the feeling that they are disappointed because all of the guys have been choking their chickens to pictures of those celebs, heavily photoshopped pictures, pictures which took a looot of make up and a whole crew of professional photographers to find the most flattering poses imaginable but now that we've finally seen them naked naked we just don't care a whole lot.  Honestly, if you had no idea who any of those women were and came across their pics online would you even give them a second glance?  I think that this is the reason for this huge outrage. Slightly saggy tits, shave burn, small fat rolls around their necks, asses that are kinda flat. They are no longer the women on the podium, the women which represent all others. They are just ordinary, boring and forgettable.  There's been a bunch of leaked photos before, Scarlet Johanson is a perfect example, and there was not even a peep. Why? When her photos leaked she just looked OK, just as we all expected, she wasn't disappointing to look at.  However now we have all of those sex-symbols to truly look at and we are told screeched at that this is (of course) rape and a hideous violation of their human rights.  I think that we just witnessed the price of pussy being dropped because of a blunder in advertising and those ungodly screeches are simply cries of protest, of anger that men have one less reason to think that the average woman hides a supermodel underneath her clothes.

Wow. That seems completely ass-backwards to me, but what do I know? I’m just a beta or gamma or epsilon or pi or whatever Greek letter it is that dudes like me are.

Others in the thread expand upon this, er, argument. I’m just going to paste some of their comments in, because, honestly, trying to parse their “logic” in order to think of funny things to say about them hurts my brain. (Clicking on any of these pics will get you to the original quote in context.)

 

Flaye2 186 points 2 days ago   You see, a woman unconsciously feel bad when sex is associated with a low price, or when the price of sex is lowered.  In the case of these pictures, the men across the internet had gain access to these famous women. Even if it is just their pictures, it drives the price of sex down (no matter how slight), and it annoys them. That's why women are opposed to porn and prostitution.  If a woman can refuse you sex but you have other options, she couldn't use sex as a bargaining tool as much.

trialByException 57 points 2 days ago*   Yep. Two reasons.      As you said, the male sexual gratification market was just flooded with goods. Brings down the price of their own pussy.      But it also gives them a chance to rant on about the horrors of leaked/published nude pics on principle. They hate leaked / published pictures because it lowers the value of their pussy (would a high value man want to be with a girl whose snatch will always be available for the rest of the world to see?) and reveals some truth about their sexual history. Buyers having outside, actual information about your product is gonna hurt your sale price.  Really, their biggest problem with posted pictures is that because it can lower the value of their pussy, the ability to post them gives beta bux boyfriends any leverage over them. It means that they can't be as sadistic as they'd like with BB, even on leaving! Real tragedy for them that they don't get ever get to vent to the beta their actual hatred and resentment of them.

SkorchZang 24 points 2 days ago*   The typical femicunt fully believes that unworthy men looking at her without her permission is a crime against humanity.

Whisper 16 points 2 days ago   Well put.  Men have been masturbating for far too long to the "highlight reels" of certain women. But when their uncut raw footage was exposed, they were revealed to be no more than ordinary women, if slightly on the pretty side.  There's only so pretty that women can get, and pretty much every guy alive knows, personally, at least ten or twenty women who are, in reality, just as good looking as female film stars. The only difference is that the film stars have a PR machine dedicated to making them look good.  Now, pretty is good, and it's important for male happiness. But in overvaluing it, we're created an environment where fake prettiness is shown to us from afar... look, but don't touch (because touching will reveal the illusion). We've created an environment where pretty women have too much power, because we foolishly allow them totally control over their own sexuality (something no other member of society has).  And worst of all, we've created an environment where ordinary women don't strive to be pretty, and pretty women don't make an effort to treat men right.  This is all men's fault. We should have been treating pretty girls like ordinary girls. Instead of selecting the nicest hot chick we can find, we should have been selecting the prettiest girl we can find from among the well-behaved.  Bitches, and even ordinary entitled-feeling hot women, should be invisible to us. If they were ignored in favour of their more submissive (or at least more considerate) sisters, then they'd shape up.  Ultimately, men who boast about their lives of "poppin' bottles and fuckin' models" are overvaluing pussy, because they are making the approval of pretty girls the measure of how much of a man they are. This places women in a dominant position over them,in the same way that co
mplimenting someone is an AMOG move... because he, or she, who judges is the judge.  It is not for pretty women to decide who a real man is. It is instead for real men to decide what women are worthwhile.

Oh, there’s more, so much more, but that’s about all I have time for now, as I need to get back to poppin bottles and, you know, doing whatever else I can to keep up the price of pussy, because, as a male feminist, that’s obviously job number one for me.

 

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Cassie's Major Domo
Cassie's Major Domo
10 years ago

I just don’t understand how they don’t see that posting, viewing and sharing these stolen photos is a violation of privacy.

I think it is because they do not view an attractive celebrity who turns them on as a private individual due the rights of a private individual. In a similar was as many of them are arguing, “Well, she shouldn’t have taken those nude photos in the first place!” they truly believe that such women do not have a right to privacy because they have an obligation as famous attractive women to service these men’s lusts.

thebewilderness
thebewilderness
10 years ago

I suppose that most women do not want to be bought sold or traded so they just naturally assume that other women don’t want to be either.

Phoenician in a time of Romans
Phoenician in a time of Romans
10 years ago

CMD : they truly believe that such women do not have a right to privacy because they have an obligation as famous attractive women to service these men’s lusts.

I think you’ve got that a little wrong – rather, they believe the actresses have already turned themselves into objects for male consumption, and these photos are simply part of this. I think for most of them, it is less a belief that the women have an “obligation” to make themselves cheesecake, but that they ARE cheesecake.

justabrowngirl
justabrowngirl
10 years ago

Cassie’s Major Domo, they sound just like rape apologist to me (look what she was wearing, she was definitely asking for it).

Robert
Robert
10 years ago

I’m still aghast at the by now infamous Twitter twit. He posted that, since Jennifer Lawrence would never consider dating a guy like him, having nude pictures of herself made publicly available was simply karma. The degree of oblivious entitlement is almost beyond my imagination.

The pseudo-economic argument in the OP is not quite so entitled, but represents a view of human nature that is just as ugly and wrong. It must be dreadful to sexually desire people for whom you have such festering disgust. Maybe if they, I don’t know, went their own way?

Cassie's Major Domo
Cassie's Major Domo
10 years ago

@Phoenician

Good points as well, although I think you could also say that they feel they deserve even more cheesecake from these women.

Cassie's Major Domo
Cassie's Major Domo
10 years ago

Maybe if they, I don’t know, went their own way>

As I’ve discovered from reading them, they only thing they are worse at than “going their own way” is the correct use of ellipses.

Belladonna993
Belladonna993
10 years ago

I just wanted to open up to you sisters and beta bux (WTF does that mean?) brothers and tell you how truly sad I feel. I won’t ever be able to be sadistic to a man again now that Jennifer Lawrence’s forgettable, boring pussy is available to see somewhere on the Internet. My life is forever changed.

Seriously, WTF? How can you assert that something is forgettable and boring in one breath and then seriously try to say that getting to see this forgettable, boring thing has the power to change the value of anything at all? I mean, if he’s trying to say that all women’s vaginas are forgettable and boring, and this is the very first time he’s actually seen one, then it may have changed the value of pussy for him. In which case, good, stop fucking obsessing about it then.

Also, did the last guy seriously say that pretty women are the only members of our society who have total control over their own sexuality? What? Oh wait, he doesn’t have total control over his own sexuality because he can’t have sex with anyone he wants, anytime he wants, right? Bwaaahaaahaaa, the law says I can’t be a rapist! Poor me. And not-so-pretty women don’t have total control over their own sexuality because sometimes guys turn them down, right? But of course, no one ever turns down pretty women. Or rapes them. Or steals private nude photos of them and pastes them around the Internet.

justabrowngirl
justabrowngirl
10 years ago

By all means, they should go their own way…Really! Go already.

Flipper
Flipper
10 years ago

Jeeeez, that’s some Crapitalist gobbledegook right there, it’s like they’re from a completely different planet. Didn’t someone mention the Ferengis here or on another site?

Also their pro-rape attitude is so sickening.

alaisvex
alaisvex
10 years ago

I’ll admit that I’m having trouble understanding how guys on reddit thinking that JLaw or some other actress is super-duper-unbelievably hot is going to make them think that I am also super-duper-unbelievably hot or how some guys on reddit deciding that JLaw is average will make the guys on reddit think that I too am average. How does their opinion of the attractiveness of some other random woman, entirely unconnected to me, aftect their opinion of my attractiveness? How am I able to trick someone into thinking that he finds me attractive when he really finds me average, and even if I can, how does this relate to JLaw?

Also, why do the Pillocks assume that the only reason that women refuse them sex is to bargain? Are they incapable of imagining that a woman simply doesn’t want them? Well, I actually can answer that. It helps their egos to believe that they’re only getting rejected because women are holding out to get something else out of them. Furthermore, it can allow them to minimize sexual coercion because they see this as another way to take away women’s bargaining power. They also believe that women aren’t refusing out of a lack of interest so by using coercion, they can tell themselves that they’re just giving women what they (the women) really want.

Phoenician in a time of Romans
Phoenician in a time of Romans
10 years ago

CMD: Good points as well, although I think you could also say that they feel they deserve even more cheesecake from these women.

Alas, I think you need to strike out the last three words of your statement. They feel they deserve more cheesecake; the women are resources rather than agents in supplying it.

drst
drst
10 years ago

The market was “flooded with goods”? Um, I’m pretty sure there were millions of photos of naked women on the internet last Friday. (Some of those pictures are also stolen or non-consensual, but many are not. Which only reinforces that the ONLY reason to want to see stolen/non-consensually shared photos of a woman naked is not because of the nudity but because you get off on participating in violating women.)

So how is this stealing and illegal sharing of a few hundred photos changing the entire market for women worldwide, exactly?

These guys are just sad. They so badly want something to happen in the world that will force all women to become as terrified and desperate as they believe women rightfully ought to be, i.e. “desperate enough to fuck me.” Because this whole “women get to choose who to have sex with” thing is misandry! and boner oppression!

Cassie's Major Domo
Cassie's Major Domo
10 years ago

@Phoenician

Ah, yes, very true. Considering them stricken.

Fibinachi
10 years ago

But this makes no sense.

A supply shock that lowered price would increase the demand of current pussy stock, ceteris paribus, on account of the reduced price with the Axiom of Demand because the affordability of the good would outcompete current substitute products and this would increase the revenue for current owners of pussy stock, which would actually probably result in a net gain of equal income for the participants in the oligarchical pussy market, because I’ll accept your rantings about collusion because why not it makes a neater model, but with the reduced overhead per unit of pussy in relation to the structure of the market the availability would as stated increase per unit of price, so why are they complaining there is literally and currently more pussy available for anyone if that’s the sort of thing you care about.

Also if you’re trying to price maximize supply dumping is not always a bad strategy, but that means I have to dig into the inter-relational trade models and drawing those takes a day and a half.

Besides, you’d have to agree that the pussy market is probably the closest to a perfect competition structure you’re likely to see in any form of classical economics, so this shock of the available supply would only at best cause some problems for established firms that might get run out because of their inability to match this new lower price, which, again according to every theory I know is supposed to be good for the consumer of pussy related products because the new equilibrium is at least a tad lower than the new one on the price per share so what does that mean

god dammit the sexual market place is probably the only market where market failures consistently, repeatedly and with great gusto happen again and again and again because the consumers and participants in the sexual market place are all so recklessly, ridiculously stupid.

if the availability of information has changed so that the participants in the economy has a better change of avoiding informational asymmetries that’s supposed to be a good thing that leads to a better market efficiency and a good step towards wonderful pareto optimality. I could write a case study in how wrong this all is.

That’s it, I’m taking away your economic terms. FOREVER

Fibinachi
10 years ago

( I tried to include graphs but got sad half way through drawing them )

cloudiah
10 years ago

My brain is broken.

steampunked (@steampunked)

I can’t even really summarise how the economic argument about women and how we should shape up is so massively odd to me.

My life involves my partner in almost every area (except drawing – he’s not so much into that), and when we do stuff together, a lot of it is about how the garden is looking good, what science fiction is on TV, planning putting up more plaster, who is doing what in computer gaming (he works in computer gaming, so he has a tonne of awful stories of his own), Minecraft, whether that last recipe was good, what to do next in the garden, where to go for a walk on the weekend, going to the zoo, our job woes, looking at birds…I mean.

Do these people actually ever have fun?

Women should shape up HOW precisely? Like, what would even help these guys? Even when they get what they want, they freak out.

They seem so brittle.

Sorry for the ramble, but it’s such peculiar behaviour on display here. Sex seems so desperate and horrible for them.

Phoenician in a time of Romans
Phoenician in a time of Romans
10 years ago

My brain is broken.

I believe what Fibinachi is saying is that redditors will switch to fapping over photos instead of dating (the higher priced alternative), and that women will be able to exploit the lucrative market of amateur porn with this increased demand as an alternative to actual relationships with redditors.

So, pretty much win-win.

Tracy
10 years ago

@cloudiah seconding that. I’m… I don’t even.

Fibinachi
10 years ago

@steampunked

Women should shape up HOW precisely? Like, what would even help these guys? Even when they get what they want, they freak out.

Hey, you phrased in 23 words what I did in 386.

@Phoenician in a time of Romans

I believe what Fibinachi is saying is that redditors will switch to fapping over photos instead of dating (the higher priced alternative), and that women will be able to exploit the lucrative market of amateur porn with this increased demand as an alternative to actual relationships with redditors.

So, pretty much win-win.

I guess that’s probably an analysis you could make? I was really just saying that their understanding of economics is hilariously wrong.

Oh, and that market failures are normally because of problems in the market structure – not because the consumers of the market in question are about as intelligent as rocks (Who, despite all their other wonderful qualities, have so far displayed exactly zero silicate based reasoning ability)

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
10 years ago

Their whole philosophy revolves around the idea that sex is a resource that women unfairly hoard, and that stealing it from us via rape or nudes that we didn’t consent to their seeing or upskirt shots or whatever is somehow striking a blow for freedom and righteousness. No wonder nobody wants to date them – not only are they horrible, their attitude towards sex makes any sort of healthy relationship with them impossible.

Octo
Octo
10 years ago

It’s kinda funny (and sad and unsurprising) that those idiots won’t even consider that some people might feel, you know, *empathy* with the victims of the leaks. That the outcry about that leak is simply common human decency with no ulterior motives. But quite obviously, such a thought pattern is utterly alien to manospherers.

Tracy
10 years ago

I just tried to explain the sexual marketplace and the recent devaluing of pussy to Busband. We both got completely confused. He’s now playing ‘attack blanket’ with one of the cats instead.

Which got me thinking – do these guys realize that while they’re coming up with these wickwhack theories, other people are happily living their lives, completely free of all this tangled wankitude? Like @steampunked said: making dinner, chatting about work, planning their weekends, doing laundry…

Buttercup Q. Skullpants
Buttercup Q. Skullpants
10 years ago

“The male sexual gratification market”? Do these guys think they’re some sort of vagina day traders?

You see, women unconsciously feel bad when the price of sex is lowered

Oh, so that’s all rape, harrassment, and boundary violation is…just a tag sale that devalues all women everywhere. Because when some creeper gropes my friends on the subway, my first thought is always “Dammit, my vagina just lost market value. Why didn’t I sell at 150?”