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You won't believe what Reddit's Red Pill ALPHA DOGS are saying about the stolen JLaw nudes. Or maybe you will.

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Well, the denizens of Reddit’s TOTALLY ALPHA Red Pill subreddit have weighed in on the stolen celebrity nude pics that have so many Redditors — and other skeezballs — so excited. And they have some, well, intriguing explanations for why feminists are troubled by the widespread dissemination of stolen nude pictures that were never supposed to be seen by the general public.

In a thread with the lovely title Why are the feminazis so buttdevastated about the leaked nude pics?, a RedPill dude with the lovely handle trpmdsrfggts explains that said feminazis are angry because the pics — some of which show the celebrity women looking like, you know, actual women — are driving down the “price of pussy.”

I’ll let him explain, because his logic is obviously more sophisticated than anything I learned in my pussy economics classes in college:

Why are the feminazis so buttdevastated about the leaked nude pics? (self.TheRedPill)  submitted 2 days ago by trpmdsrfggts  Is it because the fig leaf has fallen only to reveal... something quite forgettable and boring?  I have the feeling that they are disappointed because all of the guys have been choking their chickens to pictures of those celebs, heavily photoshopped pictures, pictures which took a looot of make up and a whole crew of professional photographers to find the most flattering poses imaginable but now that we've finally seen them naked naked we just don't care a whole lot.  Honestly, if you had no idea who any of those women were and came across their pics online would you even give them a second glance?  I think that this is the reason for this huge outrage. Slightly saggy tits, shave burn, small fat rolls around their necks, asses that are kinda flat. They are no longer the women on the podium, the women which represent all others. They are just ordinary, boring and forgettable.  There's been a bunch of leaked photos before, Scarlet Johanson is a perfect example, and there was not even a peep. Why? When her photos leaked she just looked OK, just as we all expected, she wasn't disappointing to look at.  However now we have all of those sex-symbols to truly look at and we are told screeched at that this is (of course) rape and a hideous violation of their human rights.  I think that we just witnessed the price of pussy being dropped because of a blunder in advertising and those ungodly screeches are simply cries of protest, of anger that men have one less reason to think that the average woman hides a supermodel underneath her clothes.

Wow. That seems completely ass-backwards to me, but what do I know? I’m just a beta or gamma or epsilon or pi or whatever Greek letter it is that dudes like me are.

Others in the thread expand upon this, er, argument. I’m just going to paste some of their comments in, because, honestly, trying to parse their “logic” in order to think of funny things to say about them hurts my brain. (Clicking on any of these pics will get you to the original quote in context.)

 

Flaye2 186 points 2 days ago   You see, a woman unconsciously feel bad when sex is associated with a low price, or when the price of sex is lowered.  In the case of these pictures, the men across the internet had gain access to these famous women. Even if it is just their pictures, it drives the price of sex down (no matter how slight), and it annoys them. That's why women are opposed to porn and prostitution.  If a woman can refuse you sex but you have other options, she couldn't use sex as a bargaining tool as much.

trialByException 57 points 2 days ago*   Yep. Two reasons.      As you said, the male sexual gratification market was just flooded with goods. Brings down the price of their own pussy.      But it also gives them a chance to rant on about the horrors of leaked/published nude pics on principle. They hate leaked / published pictures because it lowers the value of their pussy (would a high value man want to be with a girl whose snatch will always be available for the rest of the world to see?) and reveals some truth about their sexual history. Buyers having outside, actual information about your product is gonna hurt your sale price.  Really, their biggest problem with posted pictures is that because it can lower the value of their pussy, the ability to post them gives beta bux boyfriends any leverage over them. It means that they can't be as sadistic as they'd like with BB, even on leaving! Real tragedy for them that they don't get ever get to vent to the beta their actual hatred and resentment of them.

SkorchZang 24 points 2 days ago*   The typical femicunt fully believes that unworthy men looking at her without her permission is a crime against humanity.

Whisper 16 points 2 days ago   Well put.  Men have been masturbating for far too long to the "highlight reels" of certain women. But when their uncut raw footage was exposed, they were revealed to be no more than ordinary women, if slightly on the pretty side.  There's only so pretty that women can get, and pretty much every guy alive knows, personally, at least ten or twenty women who are, in reality, just as good looking as female film stars. The only difference is that the film stars have a PR machine dedicated to making them look good.  Now, pretty is good, and it's important for male happiness. But in overvaluing it, we're created an environment where fake prettiness is shown to us from afar... look, but don't touch (because touching will reveal the illusion). We've created an environment where pretty women have too much power, because we foolishly allow them totally control over their own sexuality (something no other member of society has).  And worst of all, we've created an environment where ordinary women don't strive to be pretty, and pretty women don't make an effort to treat men right.  This is all men's fault. We should have been treating pretty girls like ordinary girls. Instead of selecting the nicest hot chick we can find, we should have been selecting the prettiest girl we can find from among the well-behaved.  Bitches, and even ordinary entitled-feeling hot women, should be invisible to us. If they were ignored in favour of their more submissive (or at least more considerate) sisters, then they'd shape up.  Ultimately, men who boast about their lives of "poppin' bottles and fuckin' models" are overvaluing pussy, because they are making the approval of pretty girls the measure of how much of a man they are. This places women in a dominant position over them,in the same way that co
mplimenting someone is an AMOG move... because he, or she, who judges is the judge.  It is not for pretty women to decide who a real man is. It is instead for real men to decide what women are worthwhile.

Oh, there’s more, so much more, but that’s about all I have time for now, as I need to get back to poppin bottles and, you know, doing whatever else I can to keep up the price of pussy, because, as a male feminist, that’s obviously job number one for me.

 

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blahlistic (@blahlistic)

The reason I thought I wasn’t multiple is I don’t really lose time. Except I do.
…I did sort of notice that I’d go into grocery stores…and then come out and find that I did not remember being in the store or buying the stuff I was putting in the car.

I really started believing it when one of my six year olds was fully co-present with me and…got really upset about our giant wrinkly body and huge flappy feet.
Then wouldn’t let me go back to sleep until we’d been fussed at by our LDR guy.

I’m glad y’all like me here. 🙂 I like you right back.

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Karl
Karl
6 years ago

@Policy of Madness
Your first paragraph rings true somewhat. I see how it is improper to do any profiling that refers to ACTUAL mental conditions when it comes to MGTOW’ers or anyone else.
And that’s fine, as I can stick to profiling which doesn’t.

Without ANY profiling, e.g. assumptions, mocking is a bit too tricky. At least stupidity, deficient logical capabilities (hinting at sub-par intelligence) seems fine to imply around here. So I can get into that groove…. I think. I’m still not quite getting it, I feel…

The second thing you say:
“Your intentions are not magic. You going around and declaring that people who behave badly are (or are probably) crazy is DAMAGING TO ME. And you coming in after the fact saying you totally didn’t mean to damage me doesn’t help or change that you did.”

So what you are saying is that you were actually DAMAGED by random internet person X’s misuse of a word, regardless of intent? You frequent a site which is aimed to mock the profoundly eh.. (which after having had some time to investigate MRAs, I concur are magnificent lolcows to mock!), still you break down over some misconceptions and a bit of debate? Sorry but I’m not buying. I smell a troll.

Which brings me on to LBT

@LBT

“We’re telling you to shut up, not make longwinded excuses for why YOUR use of the word ‘crazy’ is magically better than all the others. You’re not special; we understood you the first time, and we don’t like it. Now shut up; I’ve been dealing with bad symptoms for two weeks and am in no mood for your horseshit about these guys just being “temporarily” turned assholic because mommy separating made them mentally ill.”

You don’t phase me.
For all you say, you may have a very rough patch and for that I sympathise, but even so, no rough patches come with a complimentary carte blanche to act uncivil like you seem to think. I don’t take insults sitting down, you know.
We can escalate or leave well enough be.

Your call.

weirwoodtreehugger
6 years ago

Karl,
Avoiding ableist language is the culture around here. Calling regulars trolls is not the best way to go about getting off on the right foot.

Policy of Madness
Policy of Madness
6 years ago

So what you are saying is that you were actually DAMAGED by random internet person X’s misuse of a word, regardless of intent?

You think that when you support, promulgate, and perpetuate damaging stereotypes that harm people, you are not yourself committing personal harm? That’s a very convenient belief! It absolves you of all responsibility for your part in the seedy corners of society! It allows you to be:

sexist
racist
homophobic
ableist
nativist
etc.

and claim that there’s absolutely nothing wrong with saying horrible things because neener neener sticks and stones.

You frequent a site which is aimed to mock the profoundly eh.. (which after having had some time to investigate MRAs, I concur are magnificent lolcows to mock!), still you break down over some misconceptions and a bit of debate?

And yet you simultaneously think I have “broken down” because of you, that your words on a screen over the Internet have destroyed my fragile ego. Which is it? Do you have zero power to harm me, or so much power you can destroy me by accident? You can’t have it both ways.

Sorry but I’m not buying. I smell a troll.

Get your smeller checked, and your ethics while you’re at it.

sparky
sparky
6 years ago

Karl: Remeber the first rule of holes. Like WWTH said, we don’t use words like “crazy” to describe people who are wrong, willfully ignorant and/or morally reprehensible here. Neither Policy if Madness nor LBT are trolls; quite the opposite, in fact, they are regulars. Please stop digging.

Here is a good explanation of why ableist language is problematic.

LBT (with an open writeathon!)

RE: blahlistic

We don’t lose time. Our brain just censors traumatic events, which causes its own problems and mindscrew. It’s why we obsessively date fucking everything these days.

RE: Karl

no rough patches come with a complimentary carte blanche to act uncivil like you seem to think.

And yet, that’s kind of what you’re saying about these guys. You’re equating their assholery with temporary mental illness caused by stress, something you have no proof of. And yet, my telling you to stop doing that is somehow more upsetting?

Uh huh.

And yes, actually, I AM actively damaged by people calling random strangers crazy. It’s because of these ideas that I keep obsessive records to prove that things I remember or think are true. Because I’m mentally ill, I’m often dismissed, ignored, or patronized. It also led directly to my poverty, homelessness, and disability. This is actually a big deal for me.

Just because YOU don’t understand that doesn’t obligate me to be polite to you. You are shitting in the community punchbowl, and then INSISTING we explain to you in deep detail, multiple times, as to why this is no bueno and why you can’t do it anymore. It should be enough to you that everyone here is telling you to STOP. By constantly questioning us, you’re making it apparent you value your opinion more than community norms, which means this probably isn’t the place for you.

cloudiah
6 years ago

Karl, Please just drop it.

LBT (with an open writeathon!)

But cloudiah, he just doesn’t get it! He can’t drop it until he understaaaaands, and we’re obligated to explain it to him until he understands it just right, or we’re meanie mcmeaniepants.

(At this point, I’m basically waiting for him to pull a, “Y’all’re just so rude, I was going to be a part of your site, but GOODBYE!”)

Karl
Karl
6 years ago

I regret the last post fairly soon after hitting “Post Comment”…

I don’t think I’ll fit right in, partially because of this hole I dug, but mainly because I don’t think I really align with this place. I see a whole lot of similarities with my own moral stances here but there are some distinct differences.
The rest of this post is not to excuse anything or raise another argument.. it’s merely that I’d find it fun to write and hopefully, someone else might find it an interesting read. But first off:

@Policy of Madness
“Do you have zero power to harm me, or so much power you can destroy me by accident? You can’t have it both ways.”

Zero power. I assume stuff from people’s posts, something you told me I shouldn’t.
From your words I assumed “rather confident and smart”, which is why I suspected you were taking the piss.. That “damaging me” part seemed off somehow but I guess I don’t know all that much about SJWs, although some things you just neatly clarified.
(Oh, and thanks for the link sparky)

Now, I’ll tell you a bit of where I come from.
I’m in a nerd group which is fairly large and open. It’s maybe unique in a way that the steps are so short from strangers to close friends, perhaps more than is advisable for an open internet forum. Naturally we pick up fleas, and because of that, IRL meets can be a little hit and miss.
It just so happens that the fleas in question often neatly fall in categories of homophobe/racist/misogynist which is quite convenient. When someone blurts out the bad stuff, it’s little Christmas for many of our members who attack relentlessly.
It would be easy to say that it is only because those things are downright terrible and that people won’t feel safe, but that’s less than half of our reasons.

Alot of our members, myself included, get a kick out of it. In general we do alot of harsh humor and that is always a good excuse to amp it up a notch. That’s why I came here, but now I see you aren’t like me in this regard. You’re much more political while I’m in it for the fun, period.

Another reason we do it is that we want them off for good. We are not interested in people exonerating themselves as they are still, even with prejudices beat out of them, still wierdos you are uncomfortable around, (and it puts a damper on our awesome parties).
I’ve tried kindness, but that’s no good. It’s like they want you to adopt them and never leaves you be. And if you are a girl well… you figure it out.

Lastly, as our community in other regards is pretty outspoken and open minded, we usually know very much about people, their traumas, disabilities, sexual pecularities, phobias etc.
But even if not, it’s usually not that hard to get a low-down on people using Google.
And believe me, practically all of the asslords we have booted have an impressive collection of mental problems, neurological dispositions, rampant social phobias etc. Which is why when I saw MGTOW (which is like our bastards x 10) I readily assumed.
It’s not a red line like disability X = misogyny but there’s always something.. but fair enough, this IS a nerd crowd, and maybe your targets aren’t all nerds like ours..

Anyway, I root for you all,
but as I said, I’m not really in it to be a good person or anything like that. I doubt I’ll have much fun here, and I seriously doubt you’ll like my “contributions” either as they are pretty nasty. I’ll probably lurk a bit though.

Shit, that was long huh?

Anyway, If you have any last questions, fire away. Otherwise consider this my last post.

Cheers!

Policy of Madness
Policy of Madness
6 years ago

You’re much more political while I’m in it for the fun, period.

You don’t have to be “political” to be not-an-asshole.

From your words I assumed “rather confident and smart”, which is why I suspected you were taking the piss.. That “damaging me” part seemed off somehow but I guess I don’t know all that much about SJWs, although some things you just neatly clarified.

The fact that you refer to people as SJWs says a lot, but I’ll move past that. You think it’s impossible for someone to be “rather confident and smart” and yet mad at the same time? Or is it that you think it’s impossible for someone to be “rather confident and smart” and have trouble getting good medical care? Because that’s what you know about me from what I’ve posted: I’m mad and I had falling-down dizzy spells totally dismissed with no investigation on account of it. How does that not mesh with your “rather confident and smart” assumption?

I mean this seriously: Why is it your assumption that “rather confident and smart” people cannot experience discrimination or be harmed by the discrimination?

But even if not, it’s usually not that hard to get a low-down on people using Google.
And believe me, practically all of the asslords we have booted have an impressive collection of mental problems, neurological dispositions, rampant social phobias etc

I SERIOUSLY doubt you are getting access to people’s medical and psychiatric records from Google, so you are still pulling these things out of your prejudices and preconceptions. I’m not impressed by your parting shot. Do stick the flounce.

Karl
Karl
6 years ago

@Policy of Madness
“You think it’s impossible for someone to be “rather confident and smart” and yet mad at the same time?”

I think it’s impossible for you to be DIRECTLY hurt by what I wrote, as in:
1. you read what I wrote.
2. Was immediately struck by huge distress.
Cause -> Effect

“Or is it that you think it’s impossible for someone to be “rather confident and smart” and have trouble getting good medical care?”

This however is possible, society prejudice dilemma, but it’s not because of me.
I don’t know where you are from but it seems you are either from the US or a country that’s similarly smitten. As a swede, we have large social issues here, mainly racism stemming from centuries old etno-nationalism, but ableism isn’t one of them, sorry.
This is the place where you openly talk about your panic attacks on the bus in polite conversation, where people often refer to their social anxieties without any shame, where a majority of people firmly believe that sufferers of mental conditions deserve treatment and subsidised medicare, and mostly actually get it too!
When you talk about “going/being/acting crazy” here, it practically always refers to volatile agressive and hateful behavior (no clinical diagnoses assumed; and if they are assumed, they sure as hell don’t mean X Condition = behavior).

Still, it’s probably a bit naive and “over psychologised” over here as people’s go-to solution when encountered with a hateful individual is “Oh, dear. That man needs therapy”. We are pretty damn big on the therapy solution given the fact that our contemporary culture is mostly painted by the modernist era when psychoanalysis was kind of a big deal.
I’m guilty of that aswell, I suppose.

By all means, it ain’t perfect, but we have decidedly less influence of the worthless victorianism and it’s baggage of loopy free church influences.

Also, applying the problems of ableism on swedish conditions, you’ll still find examples but different ones and mostly less severe. I think people who have schizofrenic episodes are the most misunderstood. We do have a reversed issue where people who have neurological conditions do get the support but aren’t given the trust sometimes to shoulder responsibility, which of course is prejudiced.

I think this is alot of the reason why I’ll never set foot in US. I dislike americans alot.
Because if you don’t exactly mimic their style and reply “I’m great how are you!!” (while making that fucked up Mc. Smile with your upper teeth, you are branded a whackjob and forever disregarded as a lesser).
They also seem pretty damn big on labelling and tying their own identity to one interest they have, which group they are a part of, (and more importantly, which groups they are NOT a part of).

But is there even a point of me writing this? While I can take in new information, you’re probably fully learned already.

“I SERIOUSLY doubt you are getting access to people’s medical and psychiatric records from Google, so you are still pulling these things out of your prejudices and preconceptions.”

No I don’t. As I said, people usually say what they suffer from outright in my circles (that swedish thang). You don’t get medical records but it’s not like that is needed when you get enough tidbits to deduce somebody is a moron, coward, oversensitive crybaby(not medical terms) and sometimes why.

sparky
sparky
6 years ago

All you really needed to do, Karl, was apologize and drop it.

When you talk about “going/being/acting crazy” here, it practically always refers to volatile agressive and hateful behavior (no clinical diagnoses assumed; and if they are assumed, they sure as hell don’t mean X Condition = behavior).

Why yes, equating “crazy” with “volatile aggressive and hateful behavior” is pretty much the definition of ableism.

weirwoodtreehugger
6 years ago

Sweetish culture is free of a be list therefore it’s OK for Karl to say able is things!

Americans are horrible and ableist. Therefore it’s wrong for us to request a blest language not be used!

Nice logic. And by the way, not everyone here is American. We have regulars from Sweeden as well as other Scandinavian countries. They all manage not being an ads hole just fine.

weirwoodtreehugger
6 years ago

Ugh. I hate this new phone update. It kept changing the word ableist. Sorry.

Policy of Madness
Policy of Madness
6 years ago

I’m kind of done with this discussion. Karl doesn’t get it, and it’s clear that he’s not dumb or anything, he’s just really really invested in not having to care about other people, or realize how much his own behavior harms others. He doesn’t want to get it, because if he got it, he might have to excise 3 or 4 words from his vocabulary, and that would be so haaaaaaarrrrrrrd.

You can have whatever opinion you want about what language is and isn’t appropriate, but when you’re here just follow the accepted norms about language and don’t argue about it.

Thank you.

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