Prostate Cancer Foundation to Reddit "fappers": We don't want your tainted money

Wait, how are we even discussing this? Did we get a 4chaner trying to stir shit?

I already donated to PCF last night. Now, I suppose maybe I will also donate to Water.org. This could get to be beyond my means, though, if Reddit keeps trying new respectable charities. The KKK accepts donations. I’m sure they’d proudly accept this tainted money.

We want consent so we are not wasting our time.

File under “Not clear on the concept”.

And if they want to put their money where their mouths are, then they should wash those out with carbolic soap first.

@Jarred

Thanks. Although, I don’t think I was forgetting the property aspect of misogyny so much. It’s just that my definition of “respect” is incompatible with something someone can give to property. 🙂

I looked at the water.org fundraiser page (and emailed water.org) before the page was taken down. The comments added with the donations were full of masturbations jokes and peoples thanking JLaw. While I’m generally up for a smutty joke, I can’t imagine any legitimate charity happy to have them all over their site. The content of the page was bad enough to justify it’s removal, without even considering the motivations behind the fundraiser.

Basically, I’m amazed they’re surprised. It’s as if they don’t understand consequences at all, and that’s a bit scary.

@Georgina: I can somewhat see your concern. I’d hope that any employer who would fire an employee over this would ensure that the employee really is engaging in this kind of behavior, doing it on company time, using it as a vehicle for sexual harassment, etc. Unsubstantiated watercooler rumors leading to someone losing their job… not cool.

However, depending on the state, a company can terminate an employee at will. They are not required to allow the terminated person access to their workspace, but perhaps in special situations (like leaving necessary medication in a desk drawer, for example.) If someone is suspected of using company property to commit a crime, you better believe they will not be allowed access to their workspace, lest they try to destroy evidence. As some of these women are underage, its child pornography and a serious crime. I’d throw them out of the building too. If management suspects something like this and doesn’t act on it, they shoulder a lot if potential liability. Not sure how it would work if the stolen photos are not of a minor, but photos of a minor = big fucking problems.

“I’m not on board with this thing about throwing employees out of the building, and shipping their personal possessions on to them minus expenses. It seems to me that in doing that you’re committing theft. I think that in fighting monsters we must be careful that we don’t become monsters ourselves.”

During my undergrad days, I did security in a large corporate office building. If I would have had it my way from the start, no employee that was going to be let go would have been allowed in the building once the decision was made. However, I live in Canada and my bosses felt that was an “American” approach they felt was unnecessary. I’ve seen too many (that is, more than zero) people assault other employees or destroy equipment once they were fired and allowed to gather their belongings. Although the ideal is to call police and let them deal with incidences like that, when you’re security people kind of expect you to do something when somebody’s on a rampage. I’ve had coffee cups, big metal staplers, and even computer monitors thrown at me in the four years I did that job. After three or four instances, it was decided that all firings would be handled offsite, like at a restaurant or a coffee shop. Their access cards were deactivated, security packed up their office, and we had extra officers on that day (when possible, firings were coordinated with HR a week or so in advance). We shipped their stuff to them at the company’s expense so they had no legitimate reason to be on the premises. It took too,long to implement the policy and it should have been done after the first incident.

If you think that’s “committing theft,” that’s fine. You’re entitled to your wack-ass opinion, even if it’s wrong. Security’s job is to protect the physical well-being and property of other individuals and the company, first and foremost. I get that firing is traumatic, but so is getting assaulted or having to witness a furious tantrum in what is supposed to be a safe place – or being suddenly thrust into a situation where you must try to defuse it (some guys who do security like physical confrontations during the course of their jobs but I’m not one of them). I’ve fought enough “monsters” to know that the way that most companies deal with terminations is the most reasonable way. Other employees don’t get hurt, equipment doesn’t get destroyed or stolen, and the individual who just got fired doesn’t have to get clocked over the head with a maglight, tazed, maced, or end up with a criminal charge on top of what is already a pretty crappy day.

No, water.org didn’t give me the option to comment. 🙁

I think Georgina is replying to Kevin K upthread.

I think the allegation is that charging to ship someone’s property back to them is theft.

I think it’s cheap-assed, and petty, but that’s not the same as theft.

“So they’d rather watch people die than take Reddit money?”

My response to this is simple: Why don’t you anonymously donate the money you were already planning to give? Would you rather watch people die than not get credit for your charity?