If you’re a straight guy looking for “fapping” material, the internet is your friend. It’s awash in freely available pictures of naked women of every size, shape, color, age, or hairstyle you prefer. And if you want more than pictures, the internet is happy to oblige, offering up videos featuring women of every description engaging in every sex act you can imagine, and then some.
You might think this would be enough.
But for some straight dudes, it evidently isn’t. They don’t just want to look at the mind-bogglingly enormous selection of women out there who have agreed to pose naked, or even perform explicit sex acts, on camera.
No, they also want to look at women who haven’t agreed to have their nude photos put on the internet. Hence the popularity of “ex-girlfriend” or “revenge porn” sites, filled with pictures that are (or at least purport to be) of ex-girlfriends who never wanted the pictures they shared with their then-boyfriends posted for the world to see.
Hence the popularity of “leaked” celebrity nudes.
The latest celebrity nudes scandal revolves around a gigantic collection of personal pictures stolen from the supposedly secure online accounts of an assortment of female celebs (and a couple of guys).
The most famous of the celebs in this current batch are Jennifer Lawrence – Jlaw – and Kate Upton; there are many others, including alleged pics of comedian Aubrey Plaza and gymnast McKayla Maroney, which internet “detectives” are scurrying to prove are real. Maroney is only 18; if the alleged pics of her are real, and weren’t taken very recently, they’re arguably child porn.
The pics were first released by an anon on internet cesspool 4chan, and they have found a welcome home on the slightly more respectable internet cesspool Reddit, where they have been posted and reposted, sometimes retouched and color-corrected, and celebrated with enthusiasm by hundreds of thousands of Redditors.
Indeed, the leaks have inspired a new subreddit, TheFappening, which has managed to gain 100,000 subscribers in a day. Evidently Reddit’s admins have no problem with a subreddit distributing stolen celebrity pics, including some that may well be child porn.
Naturally, Reddit being Reddit, some of new members of TheFappening are trying to distract from their odiousness by suggesting that those downloading Jlaw’s stolen pics also … donate to a charity fighting prostate cancer. Either that or start up their own prostate cancer fund – to make sure they get credit for their donations.
![TheJanders 224 points 2 hours ago Holy shit the news would be amazing.. "Spreaders of leaked celebrity nude photos raise millions for prostate cancer!" permalink save report give gold reply [–]BiGBANGTH3ORY 47 points an hour ago If any group of people could make that happen it would be the Reddit Army and r/TheFappening permalink save parent report give gold reply [–]TheJanders 34 points an hour ago I shall donate! However we should make our own fund so we can 1.Tell how much we have raised on our own, and 2. Get credit](https://i0.wp.com/www.wehuntedthemammoth.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/prostate.png?resize=487%2C327&ssl=1)
Sorry, guys, that doesn’t make what you’ve done ok. And if you’re truly concerned about prostate cancer, why on earth did you wait until you needed some good PR to launch a fundraising effort?
Over on the Men’s Rights subreddit, meanwhile, one concerned fellow attempts to stand up for the hidden victims in the scandal: men. No, really.
Even some of the commenters feel obliged to point out that, er, the hacker almost certainly is a dude — not just because the leak originated at 4chan, or because the overwhelming majority of the pics are of women, but also because, you know, women can’t STEM.
![dfgdfgsd444 -4 points 7 hours ago Implying women know shit about computahs. permalink save give gold [–]ConanTheHynerian 2 points 6 hours ago* I know you're probably just joking but statistically, it's a fact that men hold most of the STEM degrees so maybe it is fair to say that most women don't know about computers and the hacker was probably a man. permalink save parent give gold [–]FlyBunnyy 1 point 3 hours ago Why is this getting downvoted? permalink save parent give gold [–]elwahrio 1 point 2 hours ago Because it sounds misogynistic](https://i0.wp.com/www.wehuntedthemammoth.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/womencantstem.png?resize=379%2C479&ssl=1)
The strangest reaction to the scandal from an MRA that I’ve run across so far comes from the new Twitter account of A Voice for Men’s PR gal Janet Bloomfied (the one she created, in violation of Twitter’s rules, to get around her recent ban). After mocking celebs for taking private selfies or posing for their partners, Bloomfield posted a topless, headless picture of, presumably, herself, commenting “Is this me? Maybe. I text nothing I don’t want shared. #DontBeDumb.”
Apparently Bloomfield doesn’t quite understand the difference between posting nude photos of yourself and posting pictures of other people that have been obtained and posted without their consent. This isn’t particularly surprising, as MRAs in general seem to have trouble understanding the finer points (and the blindingly obvious points) of consent.
The enthusiasm with which so many male Redditors – and skeezy dudes in general – have greeted this latest leak of celebrity pics makes one wonder if it is not the celebrity of the women in question that is the draw but the lack of consent. After all, there are plenty of other celebrity nudes out there that the celebrities in question consented to have taken and published.
For a lot of those downloading and/or posting the pics of JLaw and Kate Upton and the rest, I suspect the real thrill comes not from seeing the nude bodies of these particular celebs – which, after all, are pretty similar to the nude bodies of porn actresses that can be found everywhere online – but from the violation of privacy that these pictures represent.
There is a real sadism here, driven in part, I suspect, by resentment that many female celebrities don’t agree to appear nude in their movies or to pose nude or topless for magazines. Sharing these stolen nudes is a way to punish JLaw and other female celebs who have so far refused to share every inch of their bodies with their male, er, fans.
It’s a toxic stew of entitlement, resentment, and misogyny. And no amount of donations to prostate cancer research will make up for it.
I really don’t understand how fire makes sense as a menstruation metaphor. The more appropriate element is earth I should think. I also think it’s hilarious that so many men think we lose horror movie amounts of blood during our periods.
Strivingally
Great point. It also explains why they’re convinced that being a minority confers “victim privileges.”
If fire was a metaphor for anything crotch-related it would be a urinary tract infection or something else that causes a burning feeling. Menstruation does not burn.
The blood also doesn’t come out looking like flames, just in case any confused lurking bros were wondering.
Nice post. Again, sorry for raining on your cat-labour day, that post was pretty awesome too.
But 100,000 subscribers on that subreddit? Meaning at least 100,000 people with disregard for others’ rights. Hmmm.
Do I want to open those Redpill threads? “Pop dat pussy” and “Why feminazis are so buttdevastated about the pictures”. Really dudes,really? The breaching of people’s privacy isn’t bad enough for you?
And that 4chan twitter shit(the topless pics, end father’s day, etc). God, I hope noone fell for it. Is it just me who wishes that we could criminalize such unscrupulous actions?
They seem to think overall that being a victim means being privileged. Being an oppressed minority means “free stuff.” They truly live in a completely different world. One where they “suffer” everyday because they have to “work” for everything they want and they feel nobody is “nice” to them or “pities” them enough. I just….all of my can’t. .
Ah, but women aren’t people, to these creeps.
I think it would be helpful to popularise the term ‘non-consensual porn’.
We could keep creepshots and just make it clear that nope, that’s not a just kidding kind of thing, most people really do think the guys who take/share those are creeps, especially if they’re women. If you want the word “porn” included then “violation porn” or “boundary violation porn” pretty much sums it up. That’s what people are getting off on, the violation of boundaries, not the nudity.
I like that, cassandrakitty. “non-consensual porn” kind of softens the offence, just like “non-consensual sex” is less confronting and appropriate to the offence than “rape”.
Yeah, “non-consensual porn” is too wishy-washy. If we’re going to make the effort to call this shit out then hey, let’s actually call it what it is.
Also, one more thing. Remember the people who were accusing Zoe Quinn of rape because “his exbf didn’t consent to having sex with someone who was cheating on him.” Fair point and I believe Quinn herself had made a similar point in her texts with the ex-bf.
But how many of those people do you think are now sharing and/or downloading private pictures of celebrities?
Anyone want a bit of brain bleach?
Here’s a celebrity who’s quite happy to have her pic shown. So’s the chap with her. 🙂
(SFW)
Meanwhile over on The Spearhead, someone calling himself “evilmaleempire” says. “The core premise of feminist rape politics is the idea that a certain group of people not only have the right to cruelly hold raw meat over a hungry dog’s head but have the right to not expect to get their fingers nipped in the process much less get their hand bit clean off.”
WHAT did he just say about men? Yet the MRAs think that males should have ALL the authority in society.
Next up, “Shiva1008” says, “While I don’t condone [Elliot] Rodger’s actions, I understand his pain. Such pain is experienced by millions in a technologically advanced society that has reverted to the law of the jungle. The more interesting aspect of Rodger’s case is that he gave a voice to this pain, the pain of being a meaningless male in a hypergamous society.”
[http://www.the-spearhead.com/2014/09/01/splc-evokes-elliot-rodger-to-smear-mras/]
Overall, I’m not surprised at the defense of the photo leak, seeing as how the MRAs get off on the violation of boundaries like kids sneaking out after curfew. Their mentality is just childish overall. And Price is disingenuous here. By allowing such comments, while pretending to be a voice of reason amongst the MRAs, he’s actually providing support for such views while pretending to be more reasonable. (his board is moderated)
Obviously “catching fire” is a metaphor for painful flatulence after eating too much Taco Bell. I’m assuming. I haven’t read the books or seen the films, obviously, but who needs to read books or see films to offer opinions about them?
And MRAs can’t or won’t fact-check. It’s whatever they feel is true, must be true – just as they accuse women of doing.
I had a date on Friday night at a taquería. Things were going great. We went back to his place. We were making out on his couch when we started undressing one another. Unfortunately, it became apparent when he yanked down my pants that, well, I’d caught fire. Things didn’t progress beyond that point. His bedroom doesn’t have a window. It would have been painful for both of us.
Nonono, you’ve all got it wrong. Catching fire is what happens when you’re scalded from having the trots and having to scrape with dunny paper too often.
Random – was shopping for shoes just now and saw one named “Dundy”, so now I’m picturing someone trying to wipe their ass with a platform sneaker.
I have a cat curled up around, and on, my hand, Nivi is lumbering around zir tank, and all is right in my world. These guys can have a weaponized cat, I’ll get her all good and feisty if someone will point her in their direction!
marinerachel: I’m really hoping that you’re using David’s definition of ‘catching fire’ in that story there 😛
If someone were to make a movie about menstruation, it would be more like “Catching Liver”. Menstrual blood isn’t always bright red.
Whenever these guys spout off about anything connected with sex or reproduction, it comes across like an urban legend. Snopes needs to have a special section for debunking MRA nonsense.
True story: I was drunkenly loving upon the gentleman’s cat on Friday night, holding her up in the air and telling her how lovely she is, and I must have forgotten I was in a basement suite because I smacked her into the ceiling. :/ She was fine but perturbed, obvs. I looked at her man, horrified, and apologised profusely. He told me to apologise to her. I told her how sorry I was and gave her many kisses but it wasn’t enough. She has rejected me.
When we went out for breakfast the next morning, when I went to wash my hands in the bathroom, I noted she had vommed all over the back of my jeans. I deserved that.
Nobody would ever suggest to a victim of identity theft that they shouldn’t have been using the Internet for online banking, or using credit cards at places like Target or TJ Maxx (both of which have had issues with stolen credit card information).
Yep, sorry, but cat anger consequences were to be expected there.
Seems there are literally hundreds and hundreds of people on the Daily Mail in the UK blaming the women for posing naked in the first place and not saying a single word about how creepy the hacker is to even attempt to take their personal photos and try and sell them. People really fuck me off royally when they miss the glaringly obvious point that HE committed the damn crime. Not the victims! How bloody ignorant and stupid are these idiots who write this crap? Mind you it is the Daily Misogynist I suppose. The world’s gone mad.