If you’re a straight guy looking for “fapping” material, the internet is your friend. It’s awash in freely available pictures of naked women of every size, shape, color, age, or hairstyle you prefer. And if you want more than pictures, the internet is happy to oblige, offering up videos featuring women of every description engaging in every sex act you can imagine, and then some.
You might think this would be enough.
But for some straight dudes, it evidently isn’t. They don’t just want to look at the mind-bogglingly enormous selection of women out there who have agreed to pose naked, or even perform explicit sex acts, on camera.
No, they also want to look at women who haven’t agreed to have their nude photos put on the internet. Hence the popularity of “ex-girlfriend” or “revenge porn” sites, filled with pictures that are (or at least purport to be) of ex-girlfriends who never wanted the pictures they shared with their then-boyfriends posted for the world to see.
Hence the popularity of “leaked” celebrity nudes.
The latest celebrity nudes scandal revolves around a gigantic collection of personal pictures stolen from the supposedly secure online accounts of an assortment of female celebs (and a couple of guys).
The most famous of the celebs in this current batch are Jennifer Lawrence – Jlaw – and Kate Upton; there are many others, including alleged pics of comedian Aubrey Plaza and gymnast McKayla Maroney, which internet “detectives” are scurrying to prove are real. Maroney is only 18; if the alleged pics of her are real, and weren’t taken very recently, they’re arguably child porn.
The pics were first released by an anon on internet cesspool 4chan, and they have found a welcome home on the slightly more respectable internet cesspool Reddit, where they have been posted and reposted, sometimes retouched and color-corrected, and celebrated with enthusiasm by hundreds of thousands of Redditors.
Indeed, the leaks have inspired a new subreddit, TheFappening, which has managed to gain 100,000 subscribers in a day. Evidently Reddit’s admins have no problem with a subreddit distributing stolen celebrity pics, including some that may well be child porn.
Naturally, Reddit being Reddit, some of new members of TheFappening are trying to distract from their odiousness by suggesting that those downloading Jlaw’s stolen pics also … donate to a charity fighting prostate cancer. Either that or start up their own prostate cancer fund – to make sure they get credit for their donations.
![TheJanders 224 points 2 hours ago Holy shit the news would be amazing.. "Spreaders of leaked celebrity nude photos raise millions for prostate cancer!" permalink save report give gold reply [–]BiGBANGTH3ORY 47 points an hour ago If any group of people could make that happen it would be the Reddit Army and r/TheFappening permalink save parent report give gold reply [–]TheJanders 34 points an hour ago I shall donate! However we should make our own fund so we can 1.Tell how much we have raised on our own, and 2. Get credit](https://i0.wp.com/www.wehuntedthemammoth.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/prostate.png?resize=487%2C327&ssl=1)
Sorry, guys, that doesn’t make what you’ve done ok. And if you’re truly concerned about prostate cancer, why on earth did you wait until you needed some good PR to launch a fundraising effort?
Over on the Men’s Rights subreddit, meanwhile, one concerned fellow attempts to stand up for the hidden victims in the scandal: men. No, really.
Even some of the commenters feel obliged to point out that, er, the hacker almost certainly is a dude — not just because the leak originated at 4chan, or because the overwhelming majority of the pics are of women, but also because, you know, women can’t STEM.
![dfgdfgsd444 -4 points 7 hours ago Implying women know shit about computahs. permalink save give gold [–]ConanTheHynerian 2 points 6 hours ago* I know you're probably just joking but statistically, it's a fact that men hold most of the STEM degrees so maybe it is fair to say that most women don't know about computers and the hacker was probably a man. permalink save parent give gold [–]FlyBunnyy 1 point 3 hours ago Why is this getting downvoted? permalink save parent give gold [–]elwahrio 1 point 2 hours ago Because it sounds misogynistic](https://i0.wp.com/www.wehuntedthemammoth.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/womencantstem.png?resize=379%2C479&ssl=1)
The strangest reaction to the scandal from an MRA that I’ve run across so far comes from the new Twitter account of A Voice for Men’s PR gal Janet Bloomfied (the one she created, in violation of Twitter’s rules, to get around her recent ban). After mocking celebs for taking private selfies or posing for their partners, Bloomfield posted a topless, headless picture of, presumably, herself, commenting “Is this me? Maybe. I text nothing I don’t want shared. #DontBeDumb.”
Apparently Bloomfield doesn’t quite understand the difference between posting nude photos of yourself and posting pictures of other people that have been obtained and posted without their consent. This isn’t particularly surprising, as MRAs in general seem to have trouble understanding the finer points (and the blindingly obvious points) of consent.
The enthusiasm with which so many male Redditors – and skeezy dudes in general – have greeted this latest leak of celebrity pics makes one wonder if it is not the celebrity of the women in question that is the draw but the lack of consent. After all, there are plenty of other celebrity nudes out there that the celebrities in question consented to have taken and published.
For a lot of those downloading and/or posting the pics of JLaw and Kate Upton and the rest, I suspect the real thrill comes not from seeing the nude bodies of these particular celebs – which, after all, are pretty similar to the nude bodies of porn actresses that can be found everywhere online – but from the violation of privacy that these pictures represent.
There is a real sadism here, driven in part, I suspect, by resentment that many female celebrities don’t agree to appear nude in their movies or to pose nude or topless for magazines. Sharing these stolen nudes is a way to punish JLaw and other female celebs who have so far refused to share every inch of their bodies with their male, er, fans.
It’s a toxic stew of entitlement, resentment, and misogyny. And no amount of donations to prostate cancer research will make up for it.
Okay, so the Terpers over at r/theredpill seem to believe that women are pissed about the hackings because it will lower our sexual market value (don’t ask, I didn’t get it) instead of being pissed about privacy and the misogyny of releasing women’s nudes without their permission. So, yeah, typically redpillers.
But in the thread, BurgundyCarpet says this:
Look, I’ve never seen the movie or read the books (I don’t like dystopias much), but I have a suspicion that is 100% wrong.
Thread here:
http://np.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/2f5qbd/why_are_the_feminazis_so_buttdevastated_about_the/
Comment Here:
http://np.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/2f5qbd/why_are_the_feminazis_so_buttdevastated_about_the/ck66zmf
The rest of it is pretty hilarious too. Apparantly, JLaw’s popularity has been on the basis that her fans (presumably all straight men) thought her genitals were magic, and now that people know they aren’t, her popularity will sink.
Despite the fact that the most rabid JLaw fan I know is a straight woman.
word: As they used to say on f_w, “this is not Earth logic”. Magic genitals, indeed. 😛
Oh my God, do the evopsych bros not even understand how early menstruation typically starts? And do they not know that trying to start having kids as soon as you get your period is a great way to risk your own life as well as miscarriages, stillbirths, weak infants likely to die, and children with birth defects?
You’re right. She has a pretty big female fan base who will most likely have tons of sympathy for her and what she’s going through right now. This won’t sink her popularity.
Also, they think that her straight male fans thought that her genitals were magic? What is it with the Red pillocks always thinking so lowly of men?
JLaw worship weirds me out but she’s a fucking person whose privacy was violated. What kind of person would I be if I took pleasure in or blamed her for that?
@Alais Yeah a lot of so called Libertarian’s just use it as a way to justify their own self absorption, the only freedoms they care about the infringement of are their own personal ones. Everyone else needs to accommodate their demands. That’s what freedom is after all.
I honestly do even like or support actual Libertarian philosophy and these arseholes still manage to offend me by misappropriating what is a valid political theory.
@Wordsp1nner They’re not bad books, pretty similar to a lot of british young adult fantasy and sci-fi from the early nineties and late eighties. That is a new interpretation I must admit though, and mind bogglingly ignorant one considering most of the early examples in the genre are focused on male protagonists. The use of a female protagonist is just part of the trend to have more female characters taking what were traditionally male roles in the fantasy/light sci-fi genre.
I mean, in a lot of speculative fiction, the sudden appearance of magical/psychic powers in a character’s teens is symbolically linked to puberty, but announcing a pregnancy (that, IIRC, is faked?) is… not.
100% in error. Catching fire is the description of the uprising against the oppression of the districts by the Capitol fer crying out loud.
My 11yr old daughter loves Katniss because she is strong, clever and (SPOILER) wins The Hunger Games. She’s never once discussed with me the onset of her period, although given that Katniss is what..16?17?…(and I know people do get their periods that late)…I think the average is way earlier than that. So that’s a little strained as a theory.
These are utter wastes of carbon. I’m going to go hug some cats.
ninja’d…and also a reference to the coal produced in her district?
It’s like, everything a woman does has to be related to reproduction, because that is all women are good for, so clearly a book about oppression and media spectacle is about… menstruation. Because there is a fake pregnancy in it.
It’s so wrong it’s bizarre. Catching Fire referred to the fact that in proving that it was possible to defy the Capitol and survive, she had become the symbol of a revolution that had been simmering for a long, long time and was starting to finally boil over.
Actually, from what I know from reading about the books, there is a decent chance Katniss isn’t menstruating, especially at first, given how malnourished she is to start with. Malnourishment can delay first menstruation until the late teens, and stop it in adult women.
@BigMomma
It’s really weird that he thinks that Katniss’ main contribution to society is going to be babies. I mean, the books are about her major contributions to freeing society. That’s a hell of a lot more significant than a few potential future kids. I’d think that the pillocks would be pissed enough that a movie implied that women, like men, can contribute more to society than babies to rant about it for a few thousand words.
While I get the knee-jerk to bundle misogyny into this event, I feel that’s a bit of a stretch. Talking about misogyny and 4Chan/Reddit is a bit of a kaleidoscope because of all the different voices involved on those platforms.
In fact 4Chan actually has investigated who leaked the info, they just simply allow everything.
But looking at your argument, you already have a pre-made opinion on things and that’s pretty defeating when talking about 4Chan/Reddit. It’s like saying NYT is biased because they have a mostly liberal staff, only multiplied by the nth degree because of total transience. Still I will engage the consent issue–all of these photo’s were between consenting adults when they were taken. Saying a photo needs consent to be disseminated is conflating that argument to provide cover for your misogyny argument.
Your misogyny argument isn’t completely without merit though, but it’s about objectification.. Basically, the objectification makes this already illegal act “worse.” That’s what I’m getting from your post and I think that’s pretty on point. But I do have reservations about depicting objectification as evil in a lot of ways, but I’ll lead that for smart people to write about in acadamia someday.
pendraegon, I dunno….Ferengi in Fedoras sounds like the makings of an awesome tumblr…..
@redpoppy So many meme’s waiting to be born.
Why does whether or not you like the celebrity in question even matter? That’s playing right into the idea that this predatory, boundary-violating shit can be justified if the person it’s being done to did something bad enough.
quikquik
… I have no fucking clue what the hell you are trying to argue. Because they consented to take the pictures, it is okay to hack their phones and release them? But then you say it is an “already illegal” act.
Or are you just grasping at straws to try to claim that gloating over hacked naked pictures of female celebrities isn’t based in sexism?
qikqik: Way to be an apologist for assholes. Here’s a cookie, now fuck off.
quikquik is passing judgment on David’s post.
It’s sexual harassment. Photographing nudity or sexual acts without a person’s knowledge or consent is sexual harassment. Sending unsolicited photos of nudity or sexual acts to a person who isn’t you sexual partner is sexual harassment. If someone consensually (on your end and theirs) sends a photo of themself nude or performing a sexual act and you then show those photos to other people without the knowledge or consent of the person in the photos, that’s sexual harassment. It’s time the justice system treated it that way. No more revenge porn, dick pics, secretly videotaping sexual encounters, etc. with impunity. Actually, videotaping it is sexual assault.
@marinerachel –
An MRA?
Apparently the FBI has now entered the search for the hacker.
qikqik,
We’ve already dealt with many trolls who claim that clear misogyny isn’t actually about misogyny in the recent video game threads. If you think your call to objectivity and neutrality is going to impress us or if you think your argument is new, you are very, very wrong.
Better luck next time.