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Dramatic Reading Friday: A brave Reddit warrior takes on the "Sarkeesian feminists."

Marlene Dietrich is not impressed with your bullshit
Marlene Dietrich is not impressed

Over in the Men’s Right’s subreddit, one new Social Injustice Warrior is weary, worn down by fighting the Bad Fight against the “Sarkeesian feminists” on Twitter. And what better way to convey one’s weariness than with a melodramatic monologue?

So he posted this:

Can we win? (self.MensRights)  submitted 1 day ago * by Maring_  First off, I've always been anti-feminist, but it is important to note that I've only been fighting social justice warriors for a couple of months. Before this I have only attacked feminism when it had confronted me head-on, never putting myself in that orgy of racist, sexist propaganda from which they direct their hordes of mindless drones. This is not a rant. It's a desperate cry for help from someone who just doesn't see the point of continuing to resist.  I posted over in the LGBT subreddit earlier today. I asked if they considered the fathers' rights movement something of interest, having an overlap in interests on issues concerning gay parents. My logic was that it would discredit the myth that children need a female parent if fathers were treated equally in custody battles. This seems to be something which we both want. I was told that, although they didn't necessarily disagree with me, that the fathers' rights movement is commonly associated with MRA activities and the men's rights movement has serious problems in regard to homophobes and transphobes in their ranks.  I had conversations with numerous Sarkeesian feminists on Twitter today. Their obsession with gender-baiting, their acceptance of bullying (when it's directed at their enemies, ofc), their ability to twist all issues into "us vs white, cis, heterosexual men" no matter which culture they're actually talking about and their general unwillingness to engage in open, civil and rational debate ALL LEAVE ME COMPLETELY TERRIFIED.  It has been a particularly sad day today and I've sunken into an emotional state of complete submission. I can't take it any more. I've felt a duty to reply to all the bullshit they've been spewing, but what's the fucking point? They're more organised, they are bigger in numbers, they get a shitload of media attention, there's a general fear of feminist backlash ingrained in those who are stuck in the middle of the shitstorm and what have we achieved? We have no support outside of men's rights activists, whereas everyone feminism seems to be the only acceptable ideology in popular culture and is the default alignment people associate themselves with.  Why do we fight?  I am tired.

In the AgainstMensRights subreddit, one of the regulars felt that Maring_’s  existential lament was good enough to deserve a dramatic reading. Two AMRistas responded to the challenge. Here’s one of their readings, complete with swelling music at the end:

Stirring indeed!

I went back over Maring_’s Reddit history to see what kind of heroic work he has been doing to fight the Sarkeesian feminists of the world. I would report on some of that, but I found his insights into sexuality to be far more interesting.

For example, he shared these thoughts about his sexual prowess with the regulars in r/celebs:

Maring_ -15 points 3 days ago   I wish. I bring quite the ruckus to the ladies. I leave their hole feeling raw after minutes of intensive use.

And these thoughts about his multicultural sexual preferences:

Maring_ -44 points 2 days ago   Whatever. Obviously I'd fuck either of them (hole is a hole). If I had a choice, Jennifer Lopez will always win out over them all. I fucking love Latina pussy.

As well as these observations about the redoubtable Marlene Dietrich:

Maring_ 2 points 4 days ago   what a colossal babe. I'd bring the ruckus to that bitch's pussy.      permalink     save     report     give gold     reply  [–]rpilek [S] 2 points 4 days ago   I agree, I also find her very sexy.      permalink     save     parent     report     give gold     reply  [–]Maring_ 2 points 4 days ago   I'd run that bitch's ass into the ground

Meanwhile, in a thread in r/movies on the death of Richard Attenborough, he left these kind words:

Maring_ -1 points 4 days ago   I heard Richard slept with his housecleaner on a daily basis. Sly fuck. I hope I'll be getting my dick wet behind my wife's back at his age. I'll probably only get away with fucking a prostitute, though, which means I'll have to wear a condom :(  I'd say R.I.P. but if he's resting, that would imply an afterlife and let's face it: this fucker ain't getting into heaven.

Rest up, weary Redditor! It can be difficult to bring so much ruckus to the world.

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Alais
6 years ago

Maybe he thinks that the more raw the woman is after sex, the bigger it means that his dick is. Not actually how it works, but he’s clearly not an expert.

Nova
Nova
6 years ago

It could also be his personal experience with being asked to stop because his partner is not comfortable. What he’s not getting is that bad sexual technique and lack of arousal is responsible for that and it’s not a good thing for a woman to be ready to give up that quickly.

Skagboy
Skagboy
6 years ago

”Social Injustice Warrior”? I’m gonna start using this term!

Lea
Lea
6 years ago

skagboy,
Makes you kind want to carry a battle ax, doesn’t it?

redpoppy
redpoppy
6 years ago

The way I view it, he is having great sex. For him and him only. And he only cares about that and all the kudos he’s going to get from his like-minded buddies. The woman is merely a means to an end. Him feeling good. And if she’s raw, uncomfortable and hurting? That just makes it even better.

redpoppy
redpoppy
6 years ago

Sadly, his tiny faction are the only people who view that as good sex. Everyone else just thinks what an awful, selfish loser he is who sucks in bed.

Bina
Bina
6 years ago

”Social Injustice Warrior”? I’m gonna start using this term!

Yeah, me too. Funny how they view social justice as a Bad Thing.

bekabot
6 years ago

@ Lea and maistrechat

Potential parody titles:

Uncle Ruckus: His Songs and His Sayings

Nights with Uncle Ruckus

Uncle Ruckus and His Friends

The Tar-Baby* and other Rhymes of Uncle Ruckus

Told by Uncle Ruckus: New Stories of the Old Plantation**

Uncle Ruckus and Brer Rabbit***

Uncle Ruckus and the Little Boy

Uncle Ruckus Returns

Seven Tales of Uncle Ruckus

*insert absurd alternative at will
**likewise
***likewise

It’s all going begging, folks. I don’t know exactly how the copyright situation stands with all of these but even if only two or three of them are freed-up there’s a deep mine of material there available to anyone who wishes to make use of it. Just saying.

The original Uncle Remus books, BTW, were by a guy who also wrote a book titled The Bishop and the Boogerman. For real — so they might be harder to parody than they at first appear. You’ve gotta admit that just as a title that one’s hard to top.

Fnoicby
Fnoicby
6 years ago

Oh my, MRA’s are just as good at dramatic readings as they are at graphic design!!

And I love the way he says yeah, sure, I’d fuck Jennifer Lopez. As if he has a choice. AS IF SHE’D FUCK HIM. As if she’s just waiting around for losers like him to judge her fuckability.

cloudiah
6 years ago

Those dramatic readings use text written by a MRA, but recorded by anti-MRAs, Fnoicby.

Fnoicby
Fnoicby
6 years ago

@cloudiah, ah that explains it. Entertaining either way!

Orion
6 years ago

@Misha,

“But why does he think this community would be interested in custody battles between heterosexual parents?Raising awareness of the rights of gay men and couples to be parents, awesome, no problems understanding that. But why does he think this community would be interested in custody battles between heterosexual parents?”

That part actually does make sense. Many gay parents are *in* custody battles with cross-gender co-parents.

kittehserf
6 years ago

@emilygoddess

Men like this don’t want to be good in bed. For them, an optimal sexual encounter is one where the man gets off and the woman not only doesn’t, but experiences discomfort or pain.

Yes, exactly. He’s fantasising about rape.

@brooked, I enjoyed seeing those commenters slapping him down. 😀

@WWTH

Oh my furrinati.

I am so stealing this.

Orion
6 years ago

Leftwing fox,

“Cockney rhyming slang for “the clap”?”

Perhaps “a ruckus and flap”?

blahlistic (@blahlistic)

Marus_ said, of Feminists:

their general unwillingness to engage in open, civil and rational debate

I have yet to debate an MRA and have it stay open, civil or rational on their end.
How about y’all?
They have their own version of reality .
You can’t really debate someone off on their own reality side-spur.

thebewilderness
thebewilderness
6 years ago

On the other thread a well known MRA blogger indicated that five minutes was the extent of an alpha males abilities. So that kinda mansplains it.

thebewilderness
thebewilderness
6 years ago

Sorry, not the thread but the post itself.

Alais
6 years ago

I read his comments on r/celebs, and now I know that there’s a subreddit called r/tinytits. I feel like they’re complimenting my people but also insulting us at the same time.

GrumpyOldMan
6 years ago

“I leave their hole feeling raw after minutes of intensive use.”
Because he thinks that “Wanna fuck, chickee?” is all the foreplay a woman could ever want or need.
And he has to go after lots of women because anyone unfortunate enough to fuck him once will never make that mistake again. (Why do they never get the idea that having slept with a lot of women might, just might, mean that none of them found you worth keeping?)

Bina
Bina
6 years ago

I have yet to debate an MRA and have it stay open, civil or rational on their end.
How about y’all?

Same here. It always falls right away into condescension, sneering, and cunt-calling on their part.

Alais
6 years ago

I think that closest thing to an open, civil, and rational debate that I’ve seen an MRA conduct is one where he kept moving the goalposts and then, when he couldn’t move them any farther, started declaring his right to remain skeptical and “neutral,” no matter what evidence anyone offered against him.

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
6 years ago

We’re well into “you have a right to your own opinion, but you do not have a right to your own facts” territory at that point.

redpoppy
redpoppy
6 years ago

We’re well into “you have a right to your own opinion, but you do not have a right to your own facts” territory at that point.

Couldn’t have said it better. It’s not the fault of everyone else that they are so fact averse. Opinions are opinions and you can have as many as you want until the cows come home. Facts ain’t nothing to fuck with. But they try. Very hard to fuck with facts to fit their opinions. Not very rational or logical, huh?

Alais
6 years ago

Nope, but they’ll applaud themselves for their rationality if they can refrain from insulting people or if anyone gets slightly “emotional” while explaining the facts or gets frustrated that the MRAs debating won’t listen to or even try to understand the opposing argument. Because clearly the “emotional” people must be wrong.

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
6 years ago

It’s not that women are too emotional, splainey dudes, it’s just that you’re really annoying.

Alais
6 years ago

Not mention wanting browny points for not calling anyone a bitch or a c*nt.

kittehserf - MOD
kittehserf - MOD
6 years ago

I’m getting Pythonesque images of one of them moving the goalposts so far he falls off a cliff with them.

… which I would pay to watch.

Alais
6 years ago

Kitteh, will people falling off of buildings suffice?

kittehserf - MOD
kittehserf - MOD
6 years ago

Alais, yes, perfectly! XD

Alais
6 years ago

Sorry! I thought that that would just link.

weirwoodtreehugger
6 years ago

How about jumping out a window?

kittehserf - MOD
kittehserf - MOD
6 years ago

Videos always linked on WordPress, and pictures mostly do now, too, since they rejigged it. 🙂

Kootiepatra
Kootiepatra
6 years ago

@blahlistic

I have yet to debate an MRA and have it stay open, civil or rational on their end.
How about y’all?

I once debated one who was “civil” — ish — and only to me. He was very transparently pulling a divide-and-conquer tactic with myself and another commenter. The other commenter was blunt, but certainly not abusive, and the MRA was heaping loooooads of condescension and aggressive language on them.

I thought I was also being pretty blunt, but apparently the MRA detected some difference in tone. I think he might have interpreted an incredulous rhetorical question as sincere interest. Whatever the case, he regarded what I said — which was 95%, “Um, yeah, I agree with Commenter 1, for XYZ reasons” — to be somehow so much more acceptable, so much nicer, and see, Commenter 1, this is how civil discourse SHOULD go.

I had a few more go-rounds with the MRA, essentially saying, “Dude, you are wrong, and here’s why,” every time. He continued to thank me for a polite discussion, but also continued to state the same points over and over, without so much as acknowledging the criticisms either Commenter 1 or I had raised. (But of course, Commenter 1 didn’t count, because they were too “childish” and “hostile”.)

Commenter 1 and I had each other’s backs the whole time, but Sir MRA kept talking to us as if Commenter 1 was a troll and I was some sort of mediator of proper tone — which confused me greatly and actually made me feel kinda gross. Look dude, I don’t want to have to call you names to get the point across that I THINK YOU ARE THE WRONGEST OF WRONG, but let’s not test my limits on that, m’kay?

So “civil”, kinda, but “open or rational”, not so much.

strivingally
6 years ago

Ugh, I hate wedgers and splitters, especially when they’re blatant about it. Never more so than when they start the whole condescending “you’re not like [x], you can think for yourself, right?” garbage. As if agreeing with someone else’s views is somehow equivalent to brainwashing.