I don’t usually bother to read the comments on Chateau Heartiste; making it through Heartiste’s own florid yet turgid prose is exhausting enough. But after skimming a recent post of his on the increasing historical fatness of British women, I happened to glance down at the comments, only to see a discussion of the comparative anatomy of female humans and deer that was so odd and creepy I felt obligated to bring it to you all.
Brace yourself, because the following might just ruin your breakfast:
Ewwwwww.
I’m pretty sure that guy’s hunting license should be taken away from him. And if there were sex licenses for human beings, well, all three of these guys should lose those as well.
@KIm – Mermaid road trip to the Lost City of Atlantis!
That would be great!
Oh lord I am so done with looking skinny for looking skinny’s sake. Or rather dodge the asshole bullets. I like to exercise doing activities I enjoy, and I like healthy foods because of how they make me feel. But seriously? Truth is I have been both overweight and thin and the bullying doesn’t go away- it just becomes creepier. Exercise and eat right if you like to- you don’t owe it to anyone and weight loss ain’t all that.
@MCY:
Gods how I hate the “calories in = calories out!” / “You can’t outrun your fork!” crowd.
Every time I hear that crap, I want to post a link to a study that found the way you *perceive* food affects your metabolism.
Most of the developed world does have an obesity problem. An obesity problem. It’s an issue with both men and women. More exercise is needed…
@Strivingally
It’s not about calories in/calories out – it’s about what the calories are made out of. 200 calories of a soft drink vs 200 calories of a salad are incomparable when it comes to the diversity of vitamins and nutrients. P.S – Soda’s have none, all the calories are basically glucose. Worthless.
Wow. You wanna actually read the thing I linked to, Greg, before regurgitating the old talking points about how exercise will fix everything? Weight gain is a lot more complicated than that, between psychology apparently being a factor and studies that have suggested that obesity may actually be a predisposition caused by (among other things) differing types of gut flora.
Strivingally – you want him to believe that fat fat fatties are not at fault for being revolting and unfuckable? That it’s somehow *not their own fault*?
What kind of monster are you?
s/
Read the article I linked to as well Greg.
Michelle C Young
Five hours? Wow. I’ve watched some of the responses to her videos. So much wrongness. My favorite is the “amazing” atheist’s response that the damsel in distress thing in games isn’t an example of sexism because of Joseph Campbell’s Monomyth. The women’s kidnapping or murder in all these games are the “call to adventure” for the hero. Yup… No objectification there.
Lifestyle is largely a matter of circumstance and healthy lifestyle is frequently a result of privilege. The calories in- calories out bs is such an easy way to gloss over how hard some people have to work to manage the kind of lifestyle that makes them slim in our culture. We prepare our meals individually with long workdays and little help from our families. Time is a luxury most of us don’t have, never mind money.
Wow, no one has ever made that observation before. It’s a good thing Greg is here.
Yes! The perfect holiday destination.
Does it have rides and stuff? Atlantis as a Disney World-esque theme park?
Hmmm, I might just have to explore this them as a writing project.
So Greg thinks that nobody here has ever heard of the concept of nutrition before and we all wanted a primer on the basics?
I had a salad today, Greg. I love salads. I also love vegetable korma. All of which are very healthy. I still need to lose 55lbs in order to be in my “ideal” weight zone. I guess I nutrition wrong.
As much as calories in vs calories out is 100% accurate, what’s required in order to gain weight and/or burn calories differs based on lots of factors. Then there’s the social aspect of weight. That’s where money and time and ability come into play, influencing the likelihood someone is going to consume more calories than they will burn.
So yeah, it’s absolutely the case that consuming no more calories than you burn is the recipe for weight management. It doesn’t tell us a thing about why people are so likely to consume more calories than they burn though so it’s pretty unhelpful. It’s actually totally condescending, assuming people don’t know that. They do.
@strivingally
The study does not suggest that believing that the caloric intake of a food is lower alters the physical manifestations of the macro-nutrients consumed. It argues that perception of foods alters the ghrelin hormone. So, if a person believes that something is more nutrient dense or filling than it is than that person will tend to consume less food and lose weight – at the expense of a nutrient dense diet.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/?term=crum+ghrelin
Putting mind over matter and believing that cyanide will not kill you does not make it so anymore than believing that glucose does not make one gain weight (without adequate physical exercise – in that case glucose replenishes muscles).
Of course if you eat less because you’re under the impression that you’re full will lead to weight loss, of course it will because you are consuming less food.
@Robert
And male “fatties” are? Come on.
Greg, dude, this is not a blog about weight loss, or nutrition, or the science of how calories work. This is a misogyny blocking blog. Do you have anything amusing/interesting to say about misogyny? Cause right now I think you’re kind of boring people.
@Cassandrakitty
Young people, until recently, had virtually zero nutritional education except for the “food pyramid” which promoted bleached grains (white breads) as the most nutritional foods to consume. That is one of the reasons a generation or two has become so corpulent so fast.
@Redpoppy
You’re eating healthy. That’s what matters at the end of the day. But, regardless of what a person eats… Humans need exercise.
@Cassandrakitty,
Doctors tend to be. Boring, that is.
Funny thing about exercise. For the first bit (if it’s exercising a muscle group you haven’t used a lot) people generally tend to gain weight.
It’s complicated.
Exercise is a difficult thing for asthmatics. I’m always wary of it because it hurts and I have a lot of bad memories from my childhood from being really bad at sports. Humans are very cruel and unkind.
Redpoppy, my condolences.
Kids can be really, really mean. So can adults.
🙁
Even so, cassandrakitty is right. This blog is about misogyny. The topic of weight came up because a lot of these assholes seem to have extra contempt for fat women. They’re already hateful towards all women in general, but if a woman dare not please their boner….well she has committed a grave sin and must be ridiculed.