In the world of fantasy writer and all-around hateful shithead Vox Day, women who are raped when they’re too drunk to consent should just suck it up, because reporting their rapes would be akin to someone calling police when they can’t remember where they’ve parked their car.
In a blog post today, Vox approvingly quotes a retiring British judge under fire for telling a newspaper that “the rape conviction statistics will not improve until women stop getting so drunk.” (This is the same judge who recently gave a teacher convicted of possessing a massive library of child porn a suspended sentence, saying that she couldn’t “criticise you for being a teacher who’s attracted to children.”)
Vox offers his take:
Perhaps women would be slower to put themselves in positions where they can be raped with impunity if they understood that they will not be taken at their word simply because they cry rape. It’s ridiculous. Can you imagine any other purported crime being investigated, much less prosecuted, on similarly vague grounds?
He follows this with an imaginary conversation between a young woman and the police in which she reports that her car is stolen because she can’t remember where she parked it.
It’s not really quite as hilarious as Vox imagines it to be.
PRO TIP: One way you can tell that forgetting where you parked your car is not actually much like rape is that no one actually calls police when they forget where they parked their car, while people do indeed report rapes, despite knowing that they will be grilled and second-guessed and called a “slut” and possibly mocked on the internet by assholes like Vox Day.
In the comments, one fellow suggests that feminists should have their right to vote taken away from them:
Feminists love to conflate the difference between saying that a drunk woman’s testimony is insufficient to establish a conviction of rape in a he/she said situation and the mythical attitude “she’s drunk so she’s asking for it even if she’s passed out on the floor.” They don’t understand that this is primary evidence for the fact that feminists should never be allowed to vote, because they’re (deliberately) too stupid to grasp the fundamental principles of civil society, or that alcohol affects men’s inhibitions as well as women’s.
Vox and his readers do indeed live in a fantasy land.
UPDATE: It’s a Vox Day twofer today! On his other blog today, Vox quotes a Daily Mail story claiming that the horrifying sexual abuse of 1400 children in Rotherham, England went unchecked in part because (as a report on the disaster notes) some social workers felt “nervousness about identifying the ethnic origins of perpetrators for fear of being thought racist.”
Ignoring the fact that this is the self-serving claim of people who knowingly allowed this abuse to persist, and ignoring all of the other factors that contributed to this horrendous failure, Vox concludes that
the material costs of anti-racism are CONSIDERABLY worse than the material costs of racism …
Anti-racists not only actively celebrate predatory relationships, they regularly demonstrate that they have no problem whatsoever with child abuse, whether it occurs within the same race or is interracial. Moreover, what they falsely decry as “racism” is quite often nothing more than the exercise of the Constitutional right of free association. …
If you think that you possess the higher moral ground because you are anti-racist, think again. You are observably enabling widespread crime, particularly rape and child abuse, and are quite literally doing material harm to your own nation.
Astounding. Appalling. And just plain ridiculous.
I just can’t figure out why Tefo thinks it’s COLLEGE that’s the problem and not RAPE. Something is not computing.
Yeah, sorry dustedeste, I forgot to use the sarcasm font. My point was that, while not ideal or pleasant, being expelled was something you can recover from, and in my experience as well as in the data, it is (as you note) not all that likely. I agree with all your points.
Oh, sorry, I misunderstood!
No worries!
Yup. Sticking with “Tefo is a miserable piece of shit” as my go-to explanation for his posts; there’s no other option, at this point.
“Perhaps women would be slower to put themselves in positions where they can be raped with impunity…”
Hmm, well considering that statistically speaking, a woman is more likely to be raped by an acquaintance, relative, spouse, partner or other “person known to the victim”… Oh shit, how could I so quickly put my self in danger? Oh, the foolish temerity of me, staying home, where I am (by statistics) most likely to be raped. How could I be so stupid? And I’m wearing a sleeveless shirt! How moronic of me! I am truly tossing myself into a horrible position. Plus, since spousal rapes have, relatively speaking, only fairly of late been taken as actually being rape… Yes, staying at the home I share with my spouse is most certainly a “position(s) where they can be raped with impunity” and I’m just sitting here, like a numpty.
“…if they understood that they will not be taken at their word simply because they cry rape.”
Hahaha, this is hilarious. Oh… wait, he’s serious? Umm, right. I think us women folk have had that message drummed into our heads… case after case, story after story. I love it when men mansplain how stupid us women are and how we don’t know their same old “rules of protection” that don’t really prevent some of the most common circumstances of rape.
“It’s ridiculous.”
I agree, though generally what I think is ridiculous is probably quite different than what mr. Women-are-morons thinks.
I like how he went from, “I’m just explaining how MRAs think,” to “DON’T YOU FEEL SORRY FOR ALL THE POOR LITTLE COLLEGE MENZ AND THEIR PARENTS BECAUSE THE COLLEGE LADIES BE CRYING RAPE?!?!” to what was basically, “SPINSTERS!”
Note to self, hit refresh button before posting on a new day….
False kidnapping complaints from men seem to be a thing: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/25/fake-kidnapping-party_n_5708713.html
So now there are two complaints as officially false, we can ignore all other reports of men being kidnapping as false kidnapping reports?
/sarcasm off
@pallygirl, Clearly, we need to ignore all reports of men dying too.
And we can also ignore men reporting
– burglary (http://newsitem.com/news/police-man-made-false-burglary-reports-1.1268845)
– bomb threats (http://www.ci.boca-raton.fl.us/police/TopStories/vipernews.shtm and scroll down or search for “bomb”)
– car theft (http://healthnewslatest.com/idaho-man-charged-with-false-car-theft-report-after-binge-drinking-and-blackout/)
Wow, that whole car theft one really brings this full-circle, doesn’t it 😛
These chucklefucks long for Saudi Arabia, where women are forbidden to drive or work, rarely leave home and are covered from head to toe – and still get raped in huge numbers.
No, you guys don’t understand. IB22 already explained that men are incapable of saying anything other than what they mean. False reporting totally wouldn’t be something that they’d be capable of doing. Ergo, all the men filing false reports are really women in disguise.
And now a Monty Python reference has popped into my head, unbidden:
http://youtu.be/ffwFXGPRDu4?t=13s
To be fair, it seems that you can’t trust female pandas: http://www.thefrisky.com/2014-08-27/panda-accused-of-faking-pregnancy-for-air-conditioning-extra-bamboo/
If someone tells you that raping drunk women is no crime, that is because they wish to rape drunk women with impunity.
@pallygirl, I was just coming here to post that.
@cloudiah that is a first, me ninjaing you! 🙂
The thread may have moved on from this, I haven’t caught up. Tefo, you seem to be saying that:
a) parents spend a lot of money to send their sons to college so that they can get educated, get a good job, and have a good life.
b) college girls falsely accuse them of rape and ruin their futures.
You don’t seem to be getting that:
a) women at college are also spending a lot of their or their parents money to get educated, get a good job, and have a good life.
b) being raped, which is an order of magnitude more common than false rape accusations, ALSO ruins people’s lives and/or derails their futures.
In short, fuck off.
Hmm, we’re going to be ignoring an awful lot of things if we go off of false complaints…
All those people who claim that non-human mammals aren’t intelligent at all, and certainly not sapient? Deliberate deception sounds pretty damn sapient to me.
Oh, is Tefo still here, wanking away about how unfair it is that rapists get expelled? Well, dude, if you have a problem with that we could just start sending them to jail instead.
Also, go fall down a well.
I fail to understand why rapes on campus are treated so differently. Not that the criminal justice system’s wonderful, but it really irks me that these guys don’t face criminal prosecution, you know?
They’re not children, they’re grown men.
One of Mr. Beale’s standard tactics, especially when talking against multiculturalism and for racism is to take a single example and generalize from it to the entire known universe. So not surprising to see him take this single situation in England and claim that a) all people who are against racism do this sort of thing, which means that all people against racism support pedophilia. He did this with Marion Zimmer Bradley and the SFWA, it’s a standard tactic. What is ridiculous is that his followers eat this stuff up. How can they not see through his vicious nonsense? Aggggh!