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Men Going Their Own Way agree: "The economic of Sex for women is at 0%"

The price of ladies is plummeting!
The price of ladies is plummeting!

Some thoughts on the economics of sex from the fellas over at MGTOWHQ.com.

It’s not looking good for the ladies, at least according to the guys who’ve decided they’re totally over women, honest, but who somehow can’t stop talking about how totally over women they are, honest.

A fellow called TheShaman offers some thoughts on the complete worthlessness of women after they hit the proverbial “wall” somewhere shy of age 40 and are suddenly transformed from swans back into ugly ducklings. He starts off with an idea cribbed directly from good old Warren Farrell before moving on to more advanced Cock Carousel Theory (CCT):

A woman, traditionally, would have used her youth and beauty as a down-payment to a man, to secure his loyalty so that he would stay with her for what could be as long as 50 years of Post-Wall woman.

Nowadays women squander their SMV wealth on bad boys, giving away all their value to Alpha Fucks, and then expect that Beta’s to provide the bucks to settle their massive debts. Especially women in the West- all of the sweetness once expected from women is gone- no ability to cook, no desire to please, no willingness to make a man’s life better. These cock carousel riders only feel like settling down and getting married when they have maybe 1-3 years of decent youth left to her.

A woman truly only has, maybe, 20 good years to her. Afterward, she becomes an aging monster, increasingly bitter over the fact that her best years are behind her.

Women- NEVER BUY.

Not all of the assembled MGTOWers are willing to agree with TheShaman’s radical proposition – that is, that women ever have any value.

As Hank Moody sees it, women are worthless long before they hit the wall:

The economic of Sex for women is at 0%. Its over for cunts, the cat is out of the bag. No sane man will pay for some used slut.

Wallkeeper, meanwhile, reminds the fellas that they’re the real prize. Hooray for fellas!

men must realize that we’re the prize, women are just a sexual fantasy, an accessory, a luxury.
a man can live without sex and without women, a woman cannot live without men.

In return for these valuable insights, I would like to offer all Men Going Their Own Way some concrete suggestions on where exactly they might go. How about one of these lovely islands, all conveniently devoid of women and other humans?

 

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contrapangloss
10 years ago

If it’s a puppy, not even bookshelves will help. I lost quite a few to my labradaniel pound pup — well, my parents labradaniel pound pup — before I succumbed to the inevitable and put doggie barriers in front of bookshelves and got lots of supplemental rawhide chews.

Bailey forgot about his mission to shred all the books at 11 months, and we were able to safely go back to easy access books.

Easy doggie-barrier:
Take a big sheet of cardboard, trim it to the size of the front of the bookshelf. Lightly spray with bitter-apple chew deterrent (or like stuff), and use a blowdryer on cool to dry it up quickly.
Duct tape one side of the cardboard, longways to edge of bookshelf, so that it swings like a door. Put thumbtacks along the outside edge of the opposite side of the bookshelf.
Use fishing line to make little loops for closing, and duct tape them to the nasty-tasting cardboard.

When the pooch grows out of it, I’d suggest using some nailpolish remover and scrubbing the beejepers out of the remnant tape marks. The thumbtack holes aren’t terribly noticeable.

Shaun DarthBatman Day
10 years ago

He’s 14 months, and they are on bookshelves. Will try the duct tape. Woke up today to an entire shelf of books removed and eaten. Thank you!

bunnybunny
bunnybunny
10 years ago

He’s 14 months, and they are on bookshelves. Will try the duct tape. Woke up today to an entire shelf of books removed and eaten. Thank you!

I go through this with my rabbits on a pretty regular basis. Unfortunately they don’t grow out of the book-chewing habit. Or the bookshelf-chewing. Or the baseboard-chewing. I have no advice for you, but lots of empathy.

Nitram
10 years ago

Tefo,

To talk about women like they are a commodity that can lose value, hit a “wall” and use their youth and beauty as a down fucking payment is extremely negative and even damaging to any woman or girl who comes into contact with that crap. I am not a commodity. Who I fuck, how much I fuck, how many people I fuck, how old I am and how I can be of service to a man has absolutely no bearing on my worth. You know, kinda like how men are viewed.

Kevin K
Kevin K
10 years ago

Tefo…let me guess…you’re a guy, right?

Kevin K
Kevin K
10 years ago

@Shaun … cayenne pepper.

MaudeLL
10 years ago

@ zoon echon logon
The fedora video seems like a parody, but with Poe’s law and all…
Is this guy for real?

NonServiam
10 years ago

Tefo: “The new misogyny, tracked and MOCKED”. Mocking them is kind of the point.

But you know, these guys do have a negative effect on the women in their communities (not just Americans) because a continued culture of viewing women as commodities is harmful. Have you really never noticed that?

Fnoicby
Fnoicby
10 years ago

zoon echon logon, that video had me crying tears of laughter.

“I’ll slit your throat neck!”

Fnoicby
Fnoicby
10 years ago

It is not apparent that these guys pose any negative effect on or to American women. Is there a reason beyond some fun mockery to write about them?

No. What did you think the point of this site was?

Aunt Edna
Aunt Edna
10 years ago

@Shaun DarthBatman Day:
“Woke up today to an entire shelf of books removed and eaten.”

Ooh, the force is strong with that one.

Fred_the_Dog
10 years ago

Haha, they are so wrong! I was exceedingly popular when I was single from 40 to 53, and had a number of marriage proposals before I picked one. I am nothing special to look at, either (I am actually female and NOT my dog Fred).

fruitloopsie
fruitloopsie
10 years ago

Fred the dog
My mom is slightly overweight, is almost 60, had men asked her out on dates and proposed to her! It’s like love is all about what’s on the inside instead what’s on the outside! Who would have thunk it!?

Bina
Bina
10 years ago

zoon echon logon, that video had me crying tears of laughter.

“I’ll slit your throat neck!”

Yeah, shouldn’t that be “I’ll slit your throat, neckbeard!”? Poor dude, so mad he’s incoherent.

Kakanian
Kakanian
10 years ago

@zoon echon logon

As somebody who does wear hats during the cold season I gotta say… that guy is really mad about hats. Like his body language and breathing show that he’s only a hair’s breadth away from going apeshit on the bathroom fixture.
Fella should probably quit hats and find something else to base his self-worth on.

Mistyful
Mistyful
10 years ago

I’ll slit your throat-neck? What other kind of neck would he slit?

I like fedoras, though I must say, after watching that I’m feeling kind of seasick from all the to-and-fro-ish motions.

As for the on-topic stuff, I’m too new here to feel comfortable contributing, other than a heartfelt holy crap, I’m glad I don’t come in contact with that stuff irl.

Shiraz
Shiraz
10 years ago

I know what the duder in the OP meant to write:

“No one loves me, and I have a sad. I’m also getting older, which is troubling to an ageist like me. It’s time to project and pretend being an older woman is somehow worse than being an older man, so that I can make myself happier via delusion. **Sniff**
My mother told me I was her special little boy and women would be fighting over me when I got older. **Sniff-sniff** What happened?! It’s women!! They’re crazy these days!
Oh, wait, if I keep saying they lose their worth as they get older, maybe — just maybe, I can also convince enough of them to lower their standards and go out with me or other “Nice Guys” like me. If not, maybe I can just get my revenge and make them feel terrible about themselves for jilting me. That’ll show them. Who wouldn’t want to make me dinner while giving me a blow job? Damn it. Why can’t I find a woman who needs me for financial support? I have no other redeeming qualities. But in the ’50s that would be enough!”

And so on, and so on.

shinyjoolie
10 years ago

I literally had a dream last night that MGTOW /actually/ went their own way and I woke up smiling.

Dammit, why can’t it be true? Why can’t they all go to one of those islands? WHY?

sparky
sparky
10 years ago

Oh, angry fedora guy. If you have to repeatedly people that you are cool and have class while continously cussing them out and flipping them off, then you are neither cool nor classy.

contrapangloss
10 years ago

I always find the NiceGuy and ClassyGuy TMs hilarious, because of their unintentional irony.

“I’m such a nice guy you bleepitybleepbleepbleeps!”

“I’m so cool and calm, and classy!” — while acting as angry as a rabid squirrel

“Girls only go for the assholes” — while bemoaning their girl-less state (a state which is probably the result of the fact that they are, themselves, sort of being assholes)

idledillettante
10 years ago

@Wetherby

“My wife did change her name, but it was totally her choice and I didn’t sway her in either direction. And this was her fourth surname (after her birth name, her first married name and the made-up name described below), so it was clearly no big deal for her – I think she liked the fact that my name was much easier to spell and pronounce than the ostentatiously exotic one she’d adopted post-divorce because she didn’t want to go back to her birth name.”

Try not to start comments with “My wife…” I tend to read them as “MY GIRLFRIEND…” and there’s nothing in that next whole paragraph to leaven this sexist bread. Basically she followed the 90% and why? Because she had already changed her name a bunch of times before? Because to her (and by extension women generally) changing her name was “no big deal”?

Way to prove my point, dude.

idledillettante
10 years ago

I mean if your wife wants to come and post comments about how she totally willingly changed her name, that’s gravy. But I’m super suspicious of guys who come in to swing the words “my wife” around like they give them authoritae.

idledillettante
10 years ago

e.g. my wife said 50 Shades of Gray exists, ergo rape culture isn’t a problem

idledillettante
10 years ago

How many sexist jokes begin with the phrase “My wife…”? Fifty? Perhaps one-hundred

(Sorry to bogart the thread, I got TRASHED at my hairdresser’s. I look so pretty!)

contrapangloss
10 years ago

idledillettante,

Wetherby has been around here a long time, and he’s pretty solid. A lot of us, at some point, bring up family members or close friends. If you have a problem with the comment, other than that, no problem. We should probably discuss whatever is troublesome.

But jumping on someone posting in good faith just because they talk about how their significant other feels?

Honestly, I’ll admit to looking forward to when Wetherby’s wife decides posting, but could you not jump to the “You said ‘Your wife’ so you must be a troll” conclusion?

I’m not trying to jump on you, but it’s been a rough couple days, and I’m really wary of doing the ‘make someone feel like their being accused of being x horrible thing’.