Sometimes it seems like the internet, or at least huge portions of it, is essentially a giant harassment machine, directed primarily at women.
This week, the target of the Great Internet Lady Harassment Machine is game developer Zoe Quinn. Quinn, best known as the creator of the text-based Depression Quest, faced down two previous waves of harassment from gamer dudes who were angry about her game, for some gamer-dude reasons I can’t claim to understand, and who grew even angrier after Quinn spoke publicly about being harassed.
Her harassers claimed that she was lying about being harassed previously, and apparently figured there was no better way to prove that she hadn’t been harassed in the first place than by harassing her about her claims of harassment. I’m sorry if that’s confusing, but the “logic” of internet assholes tends to be a bit circular.
The latest wave of harassment is on a whole new level of viciousness. Because this time her haters have what they see as proof that she is indeed the evil [insert favorite anti-woman slur] that they’ve always claimed her to be. Their alleged smoking gun consists of a series of excruciatingly detailed blog posts by a vengeful ex-boyfriend describing how she allegedly cheated on him and lied about it; at roughly 10,000 words in all, not counting all the screenshots of online conversations presented as proof of his claims, his story is nearly the length of a novella.
You might ask: why is any of this any of our business? It’s fucking not. Some have tried to claim this is about “ethics,” accusing Quinn of trading sexual favors for a positive game review. But the journalist she allegedly slept with never actually wrote a review of her game.
Of course this has nothing to do with any real ethical concerns on the part of her attackers. As Quinn has pointed out herself, the people who are gleefully sharing her personal information, posting nude pictures of her, sending her threats, and otherwise trying to destroy her life don’t have any fucking ethics.
No, this is just another excuse to go after an outspoken woman on the internet, and a chance for misogynistic gamer dudes to score a symbolic victory against any and all women who are trying to enter what these guys want to see as a clubhouse where girls aren’t allowed. Anita Sarkeesian has been dealing with the same sort of shit ever since she first set out to examine sexism in the gaming world.
I honestly don’t have the psychic energy to collect together examples of the horrible shit people are saying about her; just type her name into Google along with your favorite anti-woman slur and you’ll have more proof than you need. Or go to Reddit and make your way to any of the numerous subreddits devoted to gaming and/or misogyny, where many people will be thrilled to tell you all about how “the video game industry is being fucked over because of these women.” (Actual quote.)
Quinn has said all I think she needs to say about this in an eloquent blog post of her own. Here’s a portion of it:
I am not going to link to, or address anything having to do with the validity of the specific claims made by an angry ex-boyfriend with an axe to grind and a desire to use 4chan as his own personal army. This is not a “she-said” to his “he-said”. The idea that I am required to debunk a manifesto of my sexual past written by an openly malicious ex-boyfriend in order to continue participating in this industry is horrifying, and I won’t do it. It’s a personal matter that never should have been made public, and I don’t want to delve into personal shit, mine or anyone else’s, while saying that people’s love and sex lives are no one’s business. I’m not going to talk about it. I will never talk about it. It is not your goddamned business.
What I *am* going to say is that the proliferation of nude pictures of me, death threats, vandalization, doxxing of my trans friends for having the audacity to converse with me publicly, harassment of friends and family and my friends’ family in addition to TOTALLY UNRELATED PEOPLE, sending my home address around, rape threats, memes about me being a whore, pressures to kill myself, slurs of every variety, fucking debates over what my genitals smell like, vultures trying to make money off of youtube videos about it, all of these things are inexcusable and will continue to happen to women until this culture changes. I’m certainly not the first. I wish I could be the last.
Because I’ve had a small degree of success in a specific subculture, every aspect of my life is suddenly a matter of public concern. Suddenly it’s acceptable to share pictures of my breasts on social media to threaten and punish me. Suddenly I don’t have any right to privacy or basic dignity. Suddenly I don’t get to live out normal parts of life, like going through a bad and ugly breakup in private. I have forfeited this by being a blip in a small community, while those who delight in assailing me hide behind their keyboards and a culture that permits it, beyond reproach.
My life and my body are not public property. No one’s life and body are public property.
Sexuality is one of the most personal, hurtful, and easy things to demonize a woman over, and also has nothing to do with my games. Yet large swaths of the gaming community are either unable or unwilling to separate the two. I’m convinced that my ex chose 4chan as the staging ground for his campaign of harassment and character assassination because he knew this; he knew that someone claiming to be “from the Internet” has shown up at my house once already, and he is counting on the most reviled hubs of our community to live up to their sordid reputations. This is another example of gendered violence, whereby my personal life becomes a means to punish my professional credentials and to try to shame me into giving up my work. I’m still committed to doing my small part to create a world where no woman is at risk of experiencing this.
I don’t have anything to add.
This is a NO TROLLS, NO MRAS thread. Anyone posting any doxxing shit in the comments below, or adding to the harassment against her in any way, will be banned.
As a gamer this disgusts me. It has already made the rounds on the board I usually frequent, with all the usual accusations of how this taints feminism forever or how she slept to the top and all that stuff. The kicker in all this? Stephen Totilo, Chief editor of Kotaku, has issued an official statement about Grayson (the “reviewer” who never reviewed anything) and Quinn in which he reveals that their affair occurred after the last time Grayson wrote anything about Quinn. If this was really about “corruption in gaming media” (which is what all the misogynists are using as their official explanation to continue the slander) this would be a shut case by now…
I am with BreakfastMan on this one. I love gaming, but the longer I stick around the community the more I despise it. Also hi, BreakfastMan! Cool to still see you kicking around the internetz.
Shut up, Brandon. The fact that the harassment and doxxing are the afterthought for you, while the fact that Zoe Quinn might not be the world’s best person is the primary issue, tells me enough about you to know I don’t need to hear any more.
Wait scratch that, that Rock Paper Shotgun article had a pun in the title called Admission Quest, so this proves without any kind of doubt that this person is worthy of EXTREME VILLIFICATION and should be rolled in tar and feathers and run out of the city and burned at the stake! Purity, not puns! Purity, not puns!
I’m actually angry now, because this is just stupid. I’m going to go do something constructive, like lift heavy things and put them on the ground repeatedly, because I fucking bet that’s slightly more reasonable than getting upset about a pun.
Again, this is an accusation only ever made against women who are successful. It never even occurs to anyone that a successful man has done that. It is a completely gendered accusation meant to discredit any woman who manages to succeed in a man’s field. The word “assuming” indicates that you believe it is true and are just saying that to maintain an air of objectivity.
And you just happened to finally make a post now? Yeah, right. Cool story.
Is there any evidence of conversations referencing this alleged trade of positive reviews for sex?
What is it with assholes named Brandon on this board? I’m sure there are lovely dudes named Brandon out there, but they don’t come here.
Are you fucking kidding me? What is wrong with you people? Even if she did what her ex-boyfriend is claiming she did, that in no way justified the abuse she’s getting right now.
Rape and death threats and doxxing are not an appropriate response to this! At all!
I can’t believe I actually have to type this in a feminist space….
Get out of here with that shit, Brandon. Zoe is a victim of sexism, and probably will be for a while. There may be times and places to discuss allegations of misconduct and who was responsible, but that time is not now when she’s facing real credible harassment, and the place is not here where the focus is misogyny and not industry ethics.
OT:
Here’s the pattern. Woman A goes and does something misogynistic dude-bros don’t like. They harass her. The harassment continues until some sordid personal thing is revealed to the world about woman A. Harassment speeds up, citing personal thing as justification for harassment, a thing that would never have come up had the initial harassment not occurred.
@BrandonSP:
What the hell are you even arguing here?
Even if we agree with the backwards mentality that a woman sleeping with a man is always manipulative on the woman’s part (we don’t), you’re still missing the quite fucking obvious detail that Zoe Quinn is the one being harassed, so her “claims” of sexism are perfectly justified.
Why do you think the dudebros aren’t harassing the male journalist(s?) you’re referring to for being unprofessional, why do you think that is? Hint: Starts with “M” and ends in “isogyny”.
Fuck off.
So, first it’s “reviews” and when those could nit be produced, it becomes “mentions in an article,” which includes a mention in a group of 50 games?
Can you show any evidence that that the only reason she was mentioned was because she slept with the journalist? Or even that tge article was written (not published. Written.) after she slept with him?
What also saddens me is that the journalist is married, but… not a word of outrage that he cheated on his wife. Because, who cares, she’s just another disposable woman that doesn’t matter and, if she’s hurt, its her own fault for having feelings in the first place.
And you can fuck off too, Emily. Seriously. If you’re a feminist who supports doxxing and harassment of feminists you think aren’t feminist enough, just go away.
Ok, once again, if you want to attack or make insinuations about someone who is already being viciously harassed by trolls, this is really not the thread for you. I’m putting Brandon and Emily on moderation. And deleting Emily’s comment.
Thank you, David.
You’d think that saying, right up there in the OP, “no trolls, no harrassing” would clue people in not to do those things.
Ok, what the fudge? Why is the froth from the mouth of misogynistic gamer dudes dripping over to WHTM, too? It’s bad enough out there right now.
Fuck it, I’m done. This is just vile.
Thanks, David.
@Gethsemani: Hi Geth, good to see you around these parts! Didn’t know you frequented here, but doesn’t really surprise me from the opinions you have expressed over the years. XD
But yeah, this is stupid, conspiracy shit on the level that Anita usually gets. I don’t know how the MRA has become so ingrained in gaming over the years, but I sure as hell don’t like it. It has gotten so bad that even non-feminists have grown disgusted with the community. I have a number of non-feminist friends back on The Escapist that I frequently chat with, and they have been tearing apart the and viciously mocking arguments against Quinn and Sarkeesian. Like, the community is just absurd. It is like the worst parts of the metal and comics communities got together and had a horrible, “It’s Alive”-style monster baby. D:
Before you make statements like that, shouldn’t you present actual evidence, instead of just relying on a whackload of defamatory hearsay? Or would that also be damaging to feminism and the gaming community?
Also why the fuck are we trusting anything the ex says, given that he’s already proven himself to be a complete fucking controlling abuser what with deliberately seeking to get the girl who’s “no longer his” abused and harassed by the worst corner of the internet after she has already been the subject of harassment campaigns specifically telling her to kill herself and trying to exploit her depression?
I mean, fuck, that’s some epic monster level shit and we’re all supposed to believe he’s not the hyper-jealous and controlling fuck he’s demonstrating himself to be, but rather a reasonable and unbiased disseminator of information. It’s some Bizarro World logic long before we even consider the notion that even if he was this sage and truth-telling innocent, his “list of crimes” is jack-the-fuck-all and not remotely a reason for anyone to even give a fuck, much less devote themselves to destroying a random game developer for “community purity”.
Fuck, there’s not a single part of this that isn’t dripping with outright misogyny, transphobia (in the doxxing of her trans* friends), hatred of women’s participation in spaces that some men have decided are “men’s spaces”, and the casual way in which harassment and abuse are treated by general society and the overly punitive way even rumors of women’s sexuality are treated as a grave social crime (yes, fucking STILL).
It’s enough to make one vomit.
How is having a fling a bribe? How the fuck is that anyone’s business? How would that “damage the industry”? You know what damages the industry? Fucking misogynist harassers terrorizing women for the crime of being women who dare to have an interest in gaming. What a bunch of sexist bullshit, Brandon. GTFO, troll.
Also: I highly doubt that even if Zoe Quinn has done everything she is accused of and then some (assuming for the sake of argument that she has), it would constitute some kind of irreparable damage to feminism OR gaming. Both of those things are older than she is, and I’m sure they can survive whatever she may or may not be throwing at them just fine.
And oh yeah: Shitty, lazy, stinky journalism also pre-exists her. And for the longest time, most of that was done exclusively by and for MEN. Yet funnily, I don’t see that getting dealt with here, even though a breach of journalistic ethics is presumably at issue.
Yeah, tell me this isn’t some kind of sexist witch-hunt.
What Brandon and Emily aren’t acknowledging is the tendency of our society to demand that members of marginalized groups be perfect in order to not face bigotry.
Misogyny is never acceptable. Who the individual is doesn’t matter because it’s directed against all women. That’s the issue. Not who Zoe Quinn is as a person. Nobody is perfect so I’m sure Quinn is no exception. That doesn’t make gendered harassment acceptable ever. Emily, you have a lot to learn about feminism if you ever entertained the thought that she had it coming.
@cerberustheasexual: See, what you aren’t getting is that he is a man and she is an EEEEVIL woman. Therefore, he is automatically more trustworthy than her! -_-
Her ex has to be breaking laws here by posting nudes of her for revenge, libeling her in an attempt to damage her career and instigating harassment and putting her in real physical danger. There is no way that is legal.
So Brandon thinks that if Quinn did bribe a journalist with sex that would make the current campaign of harassment led by her vengeful ex justified? Ban the misognistic little fucker.
I know I’ve said it before, but again – I’ve been in and worked around some industries that are notoriously sexist (tech and music for example), and the gaming industry still manages to make them look like a conference full of feminist hippies, comparatively speaking. I’ve encountered sexism in lots of different places, but nerd-centric spaces are consistently the very worst in terms of how women are treated.
Revenge porn is illegal in California. It ought to be a federal crime in all countries, quite frankly.