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Are Men's Rights Activists incapable of understanding irony — or are they just pretending?

You can buy your own Misogyny Bunch pillow for only $19.19 at the A Voice for Men store.
Goodnight, Paul! You can buy your own Misogyny Bunch pillow for only $19.19 at A Voice for Men’s Red Pill store.

Let me take a moment to ignore my regular readers and speak directly to the Men’s Rights Activists who might be reading this blog. I suspect there are a few.

What I would like to talk to you about it ironic humor. Because, here’s the thing, sometimes people say things they don’t actually believe in order to make a little fun at the way other people see them.

When a feminist writer posts a picture of herself wearing a shirt that says “I bathe in male tears,” noting that the picture is directed at the haters who leave nasty comments on everything she writes, she is not actually announcing that she, literally or metaphorically, bathes in male tears. Nor is she saying anything about the vast, overwhelming majority of men. She is saying “fuck you, I’m on vacation” to a small subset of men. That is, those who leave nasty comments on everything she writes. You know, like she explicitly stated she was doing.

I point out what seems to me patently obvious because so many men in the so-called Men’s Rights movement continue to pretend that somehow Jessica Valenti has launched a war against all the good and honest men of the world by wearing a t-shirt that she knew might annoy a teensy tiny fraction of the douchiest of men. And when people point out that she was making an ironic joke, these dudes react as though they’ve never heard of ironic humor.

This isn’t the first time MRAs seem to have had trouble getting ironic humor. In 2012, A Voice for Men launched a campaign of defamation against a college student inspired in large part by a joke she made on Twitter declaring that her political position was “kill all men hail satan.”  AVFM’s Paul Elam presented this as proof that the young woman “hate[s] men [and] want[s] them dead or silenced or marginalized or ignored.” Not as the joke it obviously was.

But the thing is, MRAs do know what ironic humor is. Because they indulge in it themselves, all the time.

Over on AVFM, for example, the regulars jokingly refer to themselves as “kitten eaters,” presumably in an attempt to mock what they think people like me think of them.

Now, as you all presumably have figured out, I happen to be a giant fan of cats young and old, regardless of their beliefs. But I don’t for a second think that the assholes at A Voice for Men, despite being some of the worst human beings I’ve ever encountered, actually eat kittens.

I recognize that they are making a joke, albeit a poor one. Because, here’s the thing: I live in the real world, and I can distinguish between things meant seriously and things meant as a joke.

And I think most of those who continue to rail against Valenti and her eeeeevil t-shirt can tell the difference, too. They just choose not to, because they’re not looking for a reason to attack Valenti. They’re looking for an excuse.

Now, is it possible that things meant as ironic jokes can sometimes contain a kernel of truth? Well, yes, but there is no evidence that this is the case with Valenti. There’s no evidence at all that she hates men. None. Zero. Sure, she admits to being less than fond of a few men who are assholes, but that’s because they’re assholes, not because they’re men.

Indeed, in one recent column, she wrote this:

I have the most amazing men in my life. My father, who bought me chemistry sets and robots for every tea set or doll. My husband, an incredible feminist who is an equal partner in parenting and the home. My male friends, who believe that gender justice is important and worth fighting for. I don’t have a hard time finding these amazing men because – shockingly – most men are pretty cool guys.

In another recent column, she stood up for male victim of sexual blackmail online, reminding her readers that “it’s still revenge porn when the victim is a man and the picture is of his penis.”

I know, you can just SMELL THE HATRED there.

But there are some people, I will admit, who don’t do quite so well with their attempts at ironic humor. Ironically, the first people who come to mind are amongst those who profess to be the most shocked, shocked by Valenti’s t-shirt. I speak, of course, of the Misogyny Bunch over at A Voice for Men.

That picture at the top of this post? I didn’t photoshop it. Nor did I come up with that little nickname. They did. Indeed, on their online store, AVFM sells not only pillows but t-shirts, mugs, tote bags and even playing cards emblazoned with the catchphrase. No, really:

misogynybunchcards

Yes, that’s right, the guys (and gals) who are railing against Valenti’s allegedly misandrous t-shirt sell not only t-shirts but also playing cards declaring themselves misogynists.

This shouldn’t be that much of a surprise, given that the head of this little bunch, Paul Elam, posted on YouTube for years as The Happy Misogynist; he posts under his own name now, but TheHappyMisogynist is still part of the URL.

Oh, but it’s an ironic joke! They’re not really misogynists!

Well, except that they kinda are. Well, more than kinda. Unlike in the case of Valenti, there is ample evidence of real, honest-to-goodness hatred coming from this bunch. Ironically, the shirts they intend as ironic jokes aren’t ironic at all.

Proof? Look at my archives. (Well, skip those posts at the top about commemorative plates and coins.) Look at this collection of quotes from Elam – or maybe just the story he published, or the posts he’s written, offering justifications for men to beat their partners. Go to A Voice for Men and type in your favorite anti-woman slur and see just how many articles have featured those slurs, almost always in highly unironic ways. Oh, ok, I’ll do it for you: Bitch, Slut, Slattern, Whore, C*nt. My favorite one in that last group starts off memorably:

Women are facing a very real and grave problem in our culture: They are obnoxious c*nts.

Needless to say, there is no asterisk in the original.

While Valenti describes “most men” as “pretty cool guys,” Elam once suggested that

feminism, consumer products, psychology, media, advertising, politics and social custom [have] all merged into one Great Big Bitch Machine … [T]he modern female psyche is nothing more than a product of that machine … .

Last Father’s Day, Valenti wrote proudly about her feminist father. One recent Mothers Day, Elam suggested that mothers should

Place a bunch of daffodils at a dumpster near you, perhaps one in which one of you, or one of your kind, has tossed an unwanted baby, leaving it there to slowly die alone in a pile of trash.

Perhaps you could lay a single rose at the base of a bridge that has been used by a mother to throw her baby into an icy river. Perhaps you can lay it there with hands that have beaten or shaken a baby to death.

You get the idea.

There’s nothing ironic, or even particularly happy, about this man’s “happy misogyny.”

Irony, you’re doing it wrong.

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weirwoodtreehugger
10 years ago

I bet Woody has that pillow in his Paul Elam shrine. It makes a lovely centerpiece.

Is anyone else side eying the price of those playing cards? $25.80? It’s been awhile since I bought a pack of cards so perhaps the price has gone up a bit but I seem to remember them being about $5 in US money. It seems steep to me.

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
10 years ago

Do they come with a couple of free cocktails? If not then yes, way overpriced.

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
10 years ago

OMG, Woody! Can we make a temporary exemption to the Woody Challenge to allow him to post photos of any AVFM merchandise that he may be keeping in his shrine to Elam?

NonServiam
10 years ago

Hey, we should lay off a little. That pillow is an essential tool in battling the misandry of hard chairs.

weirwoodtreehugger
10 years ago

How creepy is it that they sell merchandize with their own images like that? It’s like they’re wannabe rock stars selling stuff to their fans. Most activist groups don’t sell merchandize that’s worshipful of its leaders. Images of long dead activist heroes sure, even sometimes images of still living people they admire, but images of themselves? No.

Just one of the many ways AVFM is suspect as a “human rights” and “activist” group.

Buttercup Q. Skullpants
Buttercup Q. Skullpants
10 years ago

All I see when I look at that pillow is a bunch of sneering Buddy Hintons.

kirbywarp
kirbywarp
10 years ago

@weirwoodtreehugger:

It’s not like they have very marketable slogans. Paul Elam’s “AVFM: Fucking shit up and getting erections since 2000” mugs didn’t sound quite as awesome as they did in his head.

friday jones
friday jones
10 years ago

It’s the pillow Elam used to smother his own conscience. Then he used a water fountain to break a hole in Reality and escape it entirely.

DJG
DJG
10 years ago

Usually the potential “kernel of truth” is a bit more subtle. Very few people fail the obvious test the way the MRAs do, but I’ve seen a fair amount of “ironic” humour where there’s just a little hint at the tail of, “you know, it wouldn’t be all *that* bad” or “they are a little too much that way, aren’t they”. Sometimes that seems almost more dangerous than saying something one really believes and pretending it’s an exaggeration.

If anything, the attacks on Jessica Valenti are achieving the opposite of their object. I’ve tended to be more or less neutral about in her in the past, but have revised my assessment in an upward direction.

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
10 years ago

And now I’m going to have the words “erection mug” in my head. Thanks a lot, kirby.

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
10 years ago

@ DJC

My opinion on Feministing has always been less neutral, more negative, but in terms of stuff like this? Team Valenti all the way.

kirbywarp
kirbywarp
10 years ago

Any time, cassandrakitty. ^_^

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
10 years ago

I wonder if it would be like those tacky pens where the clothes fall off the illustrated hottie when you tip the pen upside down, but with beverages. If this involves images of Elam himself, holy shit, do not want.

Liam Dennis
Liam Dennis
10 years ago

I heard the Brady Bunch theme, and now it is forever tainted by idiots.

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
10 years ago

Wait, what? Is there drama? There must be drama, and I bet it’s funny.

YoullNeverGuess
YoullNeverGuess
10 years ago

They sure do have a lot of tshirt varieties for “my wallet, my choice.” Is that one flying off the shelves or something?

To give credit where credit is due, the “special snowflake” tshirts for women are kind of cute, and ironic. That’s almost stranger that they get it right a few times out of every hundred attempts.

hellkell
hellkell
10 years ago

I’m still trying to figure out what the grey thing is on the left hand side of the banner to their store. Can cozy? Waterproof cigarette holder? Leggings? I DON’T KNOW.

hellkell
hellkell
10 years ago

JtO’s left the clubhouse? Wut.

kirbywarp
kirbywarp
10 years ago

@David:

Wow, there are some amazing things in there. I especially like this guy, which I totally get is supposed to be symbolic of going your own way, but come on. Erection mugs weren’t supposed to be a real thing, but apparently t-shirts are.

Speaking of the misogyny bunch, whose picture is obscured out in the middle?

tcwill00
tcwill00
10 years ago

Who’s the poor schmuck who got the slogan plastered over their mug?

tcwill00
tcwill00
10 years ago

Ninja’d by the Chosen of Bootsie! Praise her!

Lids
10 years ago

@freemage
I was thinking that too. My anti-anxiety meds make me really gassy 24/7, think of how much use that pillow would be getting.

kirbywarp
kirbywarp
10 years ago

@hellkell:

It’s a thermos food jar.

kirbywarp
kirbywarp
10 years ago

@youllneverguess:

I was wondering about those. “Special snowflake” would be more apt for the women of the MRM who aren’t like all those other girls and know men should be the ones in charge, but I can’t imagine they intended the shirts for them.

Whatever happened to “princess” or random images of cupcakes?