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Men's Rights Redditors agree: "It was empathy not misogyny that kept women from having careers."

Girl totally protected from the harsh world of work by nice men.
Girl totally protected from the harsh world of work by nice men.

Once upon a time, you may recall, women were denied the right to vote, couldn’t own property, were prevented from having careers of their own. Well, it turns out that all of these pesky “restrictions” weren’t really restrictions at all! They were protections that men provided women out of the goodness of their hearts. Men protected women from the terrible burdens of voting and property-owning and so forth, because they just cared about women so much.

Or at least that’s what a lot of Men’s Rights Activists seem to think, judging from this highly edifying discussion in the Men’s Rights subreddit.

rogersmith25 325 points 1 day ago  As I read /r/mensrights[1] more and more, it is becoming increasingly clear to me that the primary female privilege is empathy.  If a woman or girl is hurt, people care. If women are kidnapped, there is international media attention. If women are killed, their deaths are highlighted. If there is a conflict between a man and a woman, then people will jump in to defend the woman. If women are under-represented in an area, people want to take action to make things "equal".  If a man is hurt, it's funny. If men are kidnapped, we hear silence. If men are killed, their deaths are glossed over. If there is a conflict between a man and a woman, people will attack the man. If men are under-represented in an area, the president will call it a "victory" (as he did regarding the female majority in colleges).  Basically, people are programmed to have more empathy for women than men. 200 years ago, that empathy manifested itself in keeping women safe from harm by having them stay home to raise the family rather than die on battlefields or toil in mines. It was empathy not misogyny that kept women from having careers. Present-day, work is safe in offices, so today we have campaigns for women to earn more money and yet have more "balanced" lives where they can both raise a family and earn an "equal" career and, in other words, "have it all".      permalink     save     report     give gold     reply  [–]sierranevadamike 82 points 23 hours ago  wow... as a history major, I never looked at the "repression" of women throughout history as empathy rather than misogyny. I NEVER considered this option..  blew my mind..  thank youDroppaMaPants 45 points 22 hours ago  Restricting women to vote, hold property, etc. etc. would be a downside to the bad old days - but women always had empathy as a benefit.  Now that the bad old days are behind us, women maintained their old privilege and now hold disproportionate sway over men because of it.

 

It wasn’t just sierranevadamike who was “blown away” by rogersmith25’s comment: the Men’s Rights mods were so impressed that they reposted it and pinned it as the top post in their subreddit.

Apparently every day is “Opposite Day” on the Men’s Rights subreddit.

EDIT: Here, courtesy of Cloudiah, some more pictures of girls and women protected from that big nasty world out there.

 

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LBT
LBT
10 years ago

Psh, my vessel’s happier in an endocrine dominant system. But I guess to them that must be the scariest thing on earth.

wordsp1nner
wordsp1nner
10 years ago

So this is about the only Youtube ad I’ve actually watched recently, and I thought it was spot on:

I like this one, too.

LBT
LBT
10 years ago

Dammit, I meant ESTROGEN dominant. What the hell is wrong with me today?

wordsp1nner
wordsp1nner
10 years ago

I assume it was supposed to be “by Big Meat”–i.e., the meat industry is behind the attacks on soy–but the way he actually wrote it was funnier.

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
10 years ago

I was making confused face trying to figure out what an endocrine dominant system would be.

cloudiah
10 years ago

Yeah, it was a typo, but it made the whole thing hilarious.

@kirbywarp, I like your random ass-fiction and would like to subscribe to your newsletter.

LBT
LBT
10 years ago

RE: cassandrakitty

I was making confused face trying to figure out what an endocrine dominant system would be.

Fun trivia: multiples run on gasoline. Don’t ask me why! But this is why none of us existed before the car was invented. Until gasoline became a common thing in our society, multiples just couldn’t survive!

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
10 years ago

“Spinning my big meat”

Honey, don’t do that. It’ll be so embarrassing when you have to explain it to the nice people in the emergency room.

hellkell
hellkell
10 years ago

LBT: What will the rise of electric cars do?

hellkell
hellkell
10 years ago

cassandra: The ER visit will go some thing like this: “So I was at home minding my own business when two dudes burst through the door and spun my meat. Or I fell. I can’t remember which. Can I have some demerol?”

LBT
LBT
10 years ago

RE: hellkell

Oh, we multiples will stop existing entirely. We’ll all disappear until the next gasoline thing. Truly, we run on the liquid bones of old dinosaurs. That and glitter. Need glitter too.

cloudiah
10 years ago

In fact, I think I have to officially award this trophy to kirbywarp. You get to pick the version you prefer.

wordsp1nner
wordsp1nner
10 years ago

Glitter, at least will be around forever. You know what they say about glitter…

Phoenician in a time of Romans
Phoenician in a time of Romans
10 years ago

A gang of marauders had been terrorizing the area for quite a while now, bound up in strange leather with strange hair cuts, riding beasts of steel and gasoline.

As the Paranoia adventure, “The Yellow Clearance Black Box Blues”, pointed out, any post-apocalyptic scenario would have the gasoline running out or degrading in short order. They encouraged the GM to describe an encounter with Mad-Max-esque bikers dressed in leathers and metal armour, while seated on their dead bikes and scooting frantically with their feet. Making “brumm brumm” noises was also recommended.

The troubleshooters could be assumed to out run them.

katz
10 years ago

I was just looking for that trophy to give it to kirbywarp.

kirbywarp
kirbywarp
10 years ago

@Phoenician:

Dang, I wish I had heard of that earlier. Though I guess making “brumm brumm” noises would be just a tad less intimidating.

@Cloudiah:

Aww, thanks! I’ll humbly accept the kitten one, unless you can turn it into a gif with the Aperture Science logo kittens.

LBT
LBT
10 years ago

Aw, I’m a beloved Mammotheer. :B And I made a useful meme trophy. I feel so accomplished.

kirbywarp
kirbywarp
10 years ago

@LBT:

Gotta do some research into solar power, or at least bio-diesel. The way society seems to be working, corn ethanol will be around forever.

weirwoodtreehugger
10 years ago

I’ve never really bought the premise of apocalyptic fiction. From everything I’ve read about anthropology, greed seems to be a side effect of abundance. In scarcity, people work together and help each other. You see on smaller scales people helping each other when there’s a natural disaster. I think in an apocalypse most people would revert to the communal lifestyle of hunter gatherers. I doubt the bands of thieving, raping, violent assholes would be far less of an issue than fiction would have us believe.

Of course, to misogynists pop culture is the same as a scientific citation so it doesn’t surprise that they have such a Hollywood vision of what would happen in a huge population bottleneck.

Lea
Lea
10 years ago

If the world falls into chaos I will still know how to make and use yeast.
If dudebros want beer and doughnuts, they better be very, very nice.

What’s funny is that this post apocalyptic fantasy is still bragging about how women need to be protected from men by other men. It’s a rape fantasy straight out of a 1950’s men’s magazine. That is a very good example of how even misogynists who do not rape rely on rape to keep women subservient and dependent. If women can live safely and independently without the same patriarchy that threatens them being needed to protect them from itself, there is no way to force them to serve and suffer in silence and “gratitude”. They aren’t worried that women won’t ever want men. They are worried that those women will not belong to those men. They do not want a world in which a woman can live a life free of the threat of rape. They need rape. They fantasize about women needing them because of rape. It’s terrorism.

katz
10 years ago

The way society seems to be working, corn ethanol will be around forever.

Don’t count on it. Ethanol production edges out the food supply. You get just 3 gallons of ethanol from a bushel of corn.

kirbywarp
kirbywarp
10 years ago

@katz:

That’s what huge government subsidies are for!

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
10 years ago

If the apocalypse comes I plan to invest in zombie power. Why worry about trying to make solar panels when you can just hook some zombies up to a windmill and make them run? Dangle some meat in front of them and you can power your whole farm.

brooked
brooked
10 years ago

… Used to be that men were obeyed, appreciated and respected for what we’ve done for women, civilization and society.

Such articulate rage, I’m guessing his Mom wouldn’t let him borrow the car agaIn and that injustice inspired this MRA reactionary elegy for all that has been stolen from men.

in this leftist, Communist, culturally Marxist and politically-correct world

This guy must have spent the majority of his life chained to a radiator in a bare room, only exposed to a TV blaring Fox News 24/7 or this is a joke. Those are the only two explanations for these words that I will accept.

… Women are not generally known for parsing situations logically and reasonably to decide correctly when/if to flee or fight, to find cover or concealment depending on the threat, nor for their raw strength combined with dexterity, self defense ability, ability to explode in controlled and aggressive violence when needed and to shield the innocent simultaneously.

“I, on the other hand, excel at all this in every Call of Duty game ever released.”

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
10 years ago

What I got from that last bit is that his body exists in multiple dimensions at once.