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Men's Rights Redditors agree: "It was empathy not misogyny that kept women from having careers."

Girl totally protected from the harsh world of work by nice men.
Girl totally protected from the harsh world of work by nice men.

Once upon a time, you may recall, women were denied the right to vote, couldn’t own property, were prevented from having careers of their own. Well, it turns out that all of these pesky “restrictions” weren’t really restrictions at all! They were protections that men provided women out of the goodness of their hearts. Men protected women from the terrible burdens of voting and property-owning and so forth, because they just cared about women so much.

Or at least that’s what a lot of Men’s Rights Activists seem to think, judging from this highly edifying discussion in the Men’s Rights subreddit.

rogersmith25 325 points 1 day ago  As I read /r/mensrights[1] more and more, it is becoming increasingly clear to me that the primary female privilege is empathy.  If a woman or girl is hurt, people care. If women are kidnapped, there is international media attention. If women are killed, their deaths are highlighted. If there is a conflict between a man and a woman, then people will jump in to defend the woman. If women are under-represented in an area, people want to take action to make things "equal".  If a man is hurt, it's funny. If men are kidnapped, we hear silence. If men are killed, their deaths are glossed over. If there is a conflict between a man and a woman, people will attack the man. If men are under-represented in an area, the president will call it a "victory" (as he did regarding the female majority in colleges).  Basically, people are programmed to have more empathy for women than men. 200 years ago, that empathy manifested itself in keeping women safe from harm by having them stay home to raise the family rather than die on battlefields or toil in mines. It was empathy not misogyny that kept women from having careers. Present-day, work is safe in offices, so today we have campaigns for women to earn more money and yet have more "balanced" lives where they can both raise a family and earn an "equal" career and, in other words, "have it all".      permalink     save     report     give gold     reply  [–]sierranevadamike 82 points 23 hours ago  wow... as a history major, I never looked at the "repression" of women throughout history as empathy rather than misogyny. I NEVER considered this option..  blew my mind..  thank youDroppaMaPants 45 points 22 hours ago  Restricting women to vote, hold property, etc. etc. would be a downside to the bad old days - but women always had empathy as a benefit.  Now that the bad old days are behind us, women maintained their old privilege and now hold disproportionate sway over men because of it.

 

It wasn’t just sierranevadamike who was “blown away” by rogersmith25’s comment: the Men’s Rights mods were so impressed that they reposted it and pinned it as the top post in their subreddit.

Apparently every day is “Opposite Day” on the Men’s Rights subreddit.

EDIT: Here, courtesy of Cloudiah, some more pictures of girls and women protected from that big nasty world out there.

 

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Lea
Lea
10 years ago

Nevermind. she’s heard of it and she’s not playing them, she’s watching them on markiplayer.

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
10 years ago

The Orphanage, btw, isn’t gory at all. Another similarly child-focused and not gory (the poster is misleading, the movie is almost entirely psychological) movie that’s worth checking out is A Tale of Two Sisters.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0365376/

fruitloopsie
fruitloopsie
10 years ago

CassandraKitty
Ok I wrote those titles down so I’ll check them out later. Thanks!

redpoppy
redpoppy
10 years ago

@fruitloopsie– I’ve never played Silent Hill but I have watched others play it. And HOLY FUCK it scared the bejeezus outta me. It’s terrifying in a more subtle way I think. And it sticks with you.

I also love horror movies and am always looking for recs! I saw a really good Korean one years ago. It was called “A Tale of Two Sisters.” It was pretty cool.

fruitloopsie
fruitloopsie
10 years ago

Ugh I just remember the movies: The Purge and Sharknado
I lost faith in Hollywood

LBT
LBT
10 years ago

RE: frootloopsie

I swear that the silent hill games are becoming more ‘dirty’ with its strong language and sexual themes.

Uh, I dunno, Silent Hill 2 was basically all about repressed sexual urges, what with the nurses and the mannequins and Pyramid Head and all…

Five Nights at Freddy’s has no gore, sex, or swearing whatsoever! Everything is entirely through implication. Other horror games you might enjoy include Amnesia: The Dark Descent (you wake up in a creepy house with no memory, just a note from your future self saying, “You have to trust me, I erased our memories for a good reason, now GO KILL THIS DUDE”) and Corpse Party (kids trapped in a decaying school filled with dead people; warning, uber-bleak).

Regarding horror MOVIES, Sneak and Gigs swear by Coraline. Mama is very flawed, but doesn’t have any sex or swearing and I could stand the gore. And of course, you’ve got the old classic, the Haunting. (Not the remake. That one’s terrible.)

RE: cassandrakitty

<em.Sexualized gore, though? Nope nope nope.

EW. Do not want!

LBT
LBT
10 years ago

I couldn’t take the Purge seriously. Due to ED history, I thought of something VERY different when all the creepy yuppie delinquents are crying, “WE MUST PURGE!”

It’s like, not here on the carpet, guys!

weirwoodtreehugger
10 years ago

The Orphanage is amazing. I need to see it again. The Devil’s Backbone is another great Spanish horror movie.

LBT
LBT
10 years ago

Goddammit, I hadn’t screwed up a single tag in years, and now I bungle two.

weirwoodtreehugger
10 years ago

I’ve never played Silent Hill but need to. I love the movie.

fruitloopsie
fruitloopsie
10 years ago

Red poppy
There’s also Fatal Frame series about girls who find a special camera that exorcises ghosts and solves mysteries in haunted areas.

Obscure is something to check out too. But it does have some issues like weird dialogue and the characters are kinda forgettable but the soundtrack is awesome!
http://youtu.be/K9nQAbGmsEE

illBleed is I think a satire of horror games.
http://youtu.be/yFPiKgjW7L4

I never played any of these games but I think I like to play some of them.

I think I found some new ideas for the Miss Andry Issue. Female protagonists, top characters and programmers. this is going to be great.

fruitloopsie
fruitloopsie
10 years ago

Sorry I forgot to put a trigger warning with the illbleed trailer. Gore, scary images and wierdness.

redpoppy
redpoppy
10 years ago

@fruitloopsie– My friend really loves the Fatal Frame series. I’ll have to check it out since I like the vidja games.

I watch a lot of anime and I found Shingeki no Kyojin (Attack on Titan) to be pretty terrifying as well. A lot of high emotions and drama in that show. I really liked it.

LBT
LBT
10 years ago

RE: fruitloopsie

Female protagonists, top characters and programmers.

Roberta Williams! Roberta Williams, Roberta Williams, ROBERTA WILLIAMS! 8D Queen of my childhood! Ruler of 90s point-and-click adventure games! Maker of the Dark Crystal computer game!

Rooooobertaaaaa Willlllliammmmsssss!

fruitloopsie
fruitloopsie
10 years ago

Hey David could we please have a new thread on horror theme games, movies, etc? If it’s not too much trouble.

fruitloopsie
fruitloopsie
10 years ago

LBT
Lol I’m guessing you like Roberta Williams? Ok I’ll be sure to put her in the magazine right after I finish the upcoming issues on Feminist Borg. I’ll go as fast as I can! 😀

Tessa
Tessa
10 years ago

Fruitloopsie:

I also like to play Rule of Rose and Fran Bow someday. That has little kids in them

Be wary of Rule of Rose, it’s a really good horror game, but it’s strangely sexualized. Nothing blatant, but the general theme. Hard to explain without giving stuff away or using trigger warnings.

Pallygirl

That’s right, because all the men will fend for themselves and not get help from other men when a gang (i.e. multiple people) attack them. Because we all know that when male soldiers go out on patrol, they do so by themselves: http://www.military-sf.com/Patrols.htm

And these guys really like put a lot of detail into their scenarios. Masturbation fantasies?

It worries me how eager they are for society to crumble. These scenarios come up so often.

Nequam
Nequam
10 years ago

The Others (that 2001 film with Nicole Kidman) was, IMO, effectively creepy in a good old-fashioned ghost story way.

As for gory films, depends somewhat on circumstance. I expect a film with Romero-style walking dead to have some gore; supernatural/”voodoo” zombies, not so much. I also tolerate somewhat more gore in horror-comedies– up to a point. (Dead Alive still looks absolutely stomach-churning.)

fruitloopsie
fruitloopsie
10 years ago

Tessa
I know, I just don’t like it being shown if that makes sense.

Nequam
Nequam
10 years ago

It worries me how eager they are for society to crumble. These scenarios come up so often.

A particularly disturbing example of these types came up in Outsider magazine’s article on preppers:

“It would only take nine days of hunger for the women to begin prostituting themselves,” Hunt tells me.

Funny thing is, I suspect most of these guys would end up fighting to see whose tongue goes further up the ass of the nearby charismatic strongman.

A Wolverine
A Wolverine
10 years ago

I’m not too big on horror games as far too many of them just go for the lazy GORE AND JUMP SCARES route.

you’ve seen one frigging insane asylum inexplicably filled with rotating knives you’ve seen them all

Tessa
Tessa
10 years ago

A particularly disturbing example of these types came up in Outsider magazine’s article on preppers:

“It would only take nine days of hunger for the women to begin prostituting themselves,” Hunt tells me.

Funny thing is, I suspect most of these guys would end up fighting to see whose tongue goes further up the ass of the nearby charismatic strongman.

Kind of a very side note,but the 9 days of hunger made me think of it. Have you ever seen the show “naked and afraid”? It’s a survival show where a man and woman are tossed into the middle of a jungle with no food or clothes, only a tool each. They have to survive 3 weeks. In one, the man was “from the south” and wouldn’t stop saying so… Also repeated a lot that the man was supposed to provide for the woman and stuff like that. But he couldn’t catch anything, and at one point he refused to eat food the woman caught. He risked starvation because he was mad that she caught food and he couldn’t. At the very end of the 3 weeks, he managed to catch something and was all happy and felt “like a man again.”

Phoenician in a time of Romans
Phoenician in a time of Romans
10 years ago

LBT: Goddammit, I hadn’t screwed up a single tag in years, and now I bungle two.

Shun.

Phoenician in a time of Romans
Phoenician in a time of Romans
10 years ago

Incidentally, although it might not quite count as horror, this is fun too:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_Live_the_Queen_%28video_game%29

http://store.steampowered.com/app/251990/

pallygirl
pallygirl
10 years ago

“It would only take nine days of hunger for the women to begin prostituting themselves,” Hunt tells me.

Because clearly women have no other tradeable skills, and in hunter-gatherer and agrarian societies women do not contribute food.

These guys are toxic.

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